Try holding a dumbbell over your chest.

right. I'll give em a shot.

Haha, yeah, perfection is a bit of an exaggeration. I use the gym at apt complex and theres no damn free barbell! So i'm gonna have to figure out some way to incorporate deadlifts. I am interested in the full body program as opposed to the split routine for sure! Is that the Waterbury method you spe...

I believe I'm as dedicated as anyone, but yes I do lack experience.

What would you do instead of pushdowns? I used to do narrow grip bench press. Should I go back to that?

as far as him being all natural, one can only speculate. I would like think he's telling the truth though.

I figured you'd say that, swanso, but look at that guy! they seem to work for him...

so is 3-4 HIIT sessions per week too much? thats what i've been doing...

check out "read before posting" sticky in the diet and nutrition section. its good stuff!

http://www.youtube.com/user/vicsnatural

thoughts?

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Hi! This is first post here although i've been lurkin around here reading other people's posts for a while. I've been training for the better part of a year now and so far dropped about 70 lbs and am in the best shape of life. program has been constantly evolving over the past year into what it is t...