i take muscle milk right now but apparently it has a lot of fat, im 5'9" 145lbs and i go to the gym/ workout 6 days a week for like 2 hours a day ... i just finished high school fitness and was 3rd individually in the nation (we do situps, pushups, pullups, jumps, running)
is muscle milk really as bad as some people say, one guy said anything but muscle milk is good, ive seen good things on whey shakes ... what is a good replacement for muscle milk that is high in proteins but low in fat?
Best protein shakes ...?
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I think Muscle Milk are for those who want to gain weights. I tried this product before and I gained back what I lose before. Now, I need to train more harder to lose it back again. I tried the Max Muscle Maxpro. It has a lower carbohydrates and 0 sugar but has 30 grams of protein per scoop/serving. I'm taking it in between meals and after work-out.That70sShowDude wrote:i take muscle milk right now but apparently it has a lot of fat, im 5'9" 145lbs and i go to the gym/ workout 6 days a week for like 2 hours a day ... i just finished high school fitness and was 3rd individually in the nation (we do situps, pushups, pullups, jumps, running)
is muscle milk really as bad as some people say, one guy said anything but muscle milk is good, ive seen good things on whey shakes ... what is a good replacement for muscle milk that is high in proteins but low in fat?
I wouldn't take it between meals, unless it has some kind of good Micronutrient profile, for the reason that you could run low on certain vitamins and minerals, or if you got enough per day, prevent yourself obtaining possible additional benefit from a bit more of some.
Especially with Bone Minerals / Vits. If you are getting reduced levels of things like Calcium, Magnesium etc etc, because you are replacing Micronutrient rich foods, with a protein shake Micronutrient sparse, you might find your Bones start losing condition and density, and at some future point, you might have more risk to Bones, from any Cardio or weights you do.
Especially with Bone Minerals / Vits. If you are getting reduced levels of things like Calcium, Magnesium etc etc, because you are replacing Micronutrient rich foods, with a protein shake Micronutrient sparse, you might find your Bones start losing condition and density, and at some future point, you might have more risk to Bones, from any Cardio or weights you do.
I think I did'nt mentioned that I take protein shake as substitute in any meals. I'm still taking 5-6 meals a day. It just happened I need to consume 30 grams of protein per meal. I just taking shakes just to fill what am I missing for protein needs from meals. Also a regular milk drinker for calcium needs and convinced kids that milk is not just for babies (non-fat milk). Any opinion will be highly appreciated.
Now I understand.
As for Milk, some people will complain about it to some extent. Some say it gets contaminated with Cow matter, and then any such contaminants from one Cow, infects a whole batch of Milk, as it all gets eventually stored as one batch.
Personally I drink Milk, and I think the whole thing is a bit over exaggerated. I don't deny there is possible risk, but reality is I think it's a bit of a storm in tea cup.
Some people even say, there is evidence that people from certain Asian countries, don't drink milk, and get lowered incidences of Hip fractures in the elderly, which would be Osteoperosis linked.
The fact is, there is some evidence to support over consumption of Calcium causing Osteoperosis, just as much as under consumption, supposedly because the little structures called Osteoblasts, that regulate Calcium uptake to Bones, get over-worked if say you consume something like 2,000 mg's a day, instead of the average 1,000-1,200 a day, and then in the future the Osteoblasts don't work as well, causing retarded Calcium absorption rates, and increased Osteoperosis risk.
Kind of a damned if you do, and damned if you don't scenario with Calcium.
I don't think though such studies necessarily take into acoount, what things people in western countries also consume. I mean if people in western countries consume lots of things like Cheese, Soy, Nuts etc etc, then yes Calcium over consumption, could be possible when Milk is included, but if you don't consume things like that, or have a small amount daily, or here and there, of some or of all those things, you won't then get an excess Calcium issue having Milk as well, unless you drank it like it was going out of style.
Milk in mind is not that bad. I'd say there's more possible risk from things like Tuna and additional Fish consumption, from the Mercury, than there is from possible Milk problems, but people will just brag about Fish upsides like the EPA and DHA Fats, Magnesium, Fat Soluable Vitamins, Whole Proteins, Fish making you smarter, lowering Cholesterol etc etc.
However you're not going to hear Fish devotees saying, well actually the Alpha Linolenic Acid Omega 3's in things like Flax, Omega Eggs, Soy etc etc, converts to EPA and DHA in the body.
Sure a bit of wasteage, but it still happens, hey and there's Protein in things like Flax, Eggs and Soy, so guess you don't need Fish as much as you think, and they probably would play up the upsides, rather than the Mercury issues that might occur from frequent long-term consumption of higher Mercury Fish.
So Milk will have some detractors, especially people worried about the Sugars.
Two issues with this.
1. Lactose is a mixture of Glucose and Galactose, a Di-saccharide Sugar. If you don't have any Lactase Enzyme, the Galactose part will be the problem child, that casues Lactose intolerance, though a few people can be Glucose intolerant, in which case Fructose works as an adequate substitute.
2. Lactose being a Sugar, needs to be factored in to things like caloric calculations if you're Diabetic.
Effects on Teeth are negligable really. I mean unless you're going to swill your Mouth with Milk, how long would the Sugars come into contact with Teeth? Lots of Sugary drinks, Vices and poor oral hygiene screw up Teeth, so why should some people scapegoat Milk?
That's like me eating an occasional Hamburger, without the greasy and sugary crap they put on the meat, and being implcated as a serious contender for Heart-attack risk, because some people who are morbidly obese eat that stuff too. Given I have no vices, and exercise regularly and consume mostly acceptable foods, including heart healthy stuff like Whole-grain, I'm not going ot boxed in with very overweight people, taht have varying degrees of inadequate lifestyle.
So apart from the two issues I stated above, I don't see Milk as a big worry. If you're concerned about high Calcium consumption, possibly causing issues related to Blood levels, and possible Calcifying and stiffening of Blood pathwways, as well as issues to Bones, just restrict yourself, as I'm not saying, hay whack half a dairies worth of the stuff, into you and your family every day, but I'm saying don't become too much of a Paranoid Android about consuming it, as it is still a beneficial substance, for people old enough to have solids like you and me
As for Milk, some people will complain about it to some extent. Some say it gets contaminated with Cow matter, and then any such contaminants from one Cow, infects a whole batch of Milk, as it all gets eventually stored as one batch.
Personally I drink Milk, and I think the whole thing is a bit over exaggerated. I don't deny there is possible risk, but reality is I think it's a bit of a storm in tea cup.
Some people even say, there is evidence that people from certain Asian countries, don't drink milk, and get lowered incidences of Hip fractures in the elderly, which would be Osteoperosis linked.
The fact is, there is some evidence to support over consumption of Calcium causing Osteoperosis, just as much as under consumption, supposedly because the little structures called Osteoblasts, that regulate Calcium uptake to Bones, get over-worked if say you consume something like 2,000 mg's a day, instead of the average 1,000-1,200 a day, and then in the future the Osteoblasts don't work as well, causing retarded Calcium absorption rates, and increased Osteoperosis risk.
Kind of a damned if you do, and damned if you don't scenario with Calcium.
I don't think though such studies necessarily take into acoount, what things people in western countries also consume. I mean if people in western countries consume lots of things like Cheese, Soy, Nuts etc etc, then yes Calcium over consumption, could be possible when Milk is included, but if you don't consume things like that, or have a small amount daily, or here and there, of some or of all those things, you won't then get an excess Calcium issue having Milk as well, unless you drank it like it was going out of style.
Milk in mind is not that bad. I'd say there's more possible risk from things like Tuna and additional Fish consumption, from the Mercury, than there is from possible Milk problems, but people will just brag about Fish upsides like the EPA and DHA Fats, Magnesium, Fat Soluable Vitamins, Whole Proteins, Fish making you smarter, lowering Cholesterol etc etc.
However you're not going to hear Fish devotees saying, well actually the Alpha Linolenic Acid Omega 3's in things like Flax, Omega Eggs, Soy etc etc, converts to EPA and DHA in the body.
Sure a bit of wasteage, but it still happens, hey and there's Protein in things like Flax, Eggs and Soy, so guess you don't need Fish as much as you think, and they probably would play up the upsides, rather than the Mercury issues that might occur from frequent long-term consumption of higher Mercury Fish.
So Milk will have some detractors, especially people worried about the Sugars.
Two issues with this.
1. Lactose is a mixture of Glucose and Galactose, a Di-saccharide Sugar. If you don't have any Lactase Enzyme, the Galactose part will be the problem child, that casues Lactose intolerance, though a few people can be Glucose intolerant, in which case Fructose works as an adequate substitute.
2. Lactose being a Sugar, needs to be factored in to things like caloric calculations if you're Diabetic.
Effects on Teeth are negligable really. I mean unless you're going to swill your Mouth with Milk, how long would the Sugars come into contact with Teeth? Lots of Sugary drinks, Vices and poor oral hygiene screw up Teeth, so why should some people scapegoat Milk?
That's like me eating an occasional Hamburger, without the greasy and sugary crap they put on the meat, and being implcated as a serious contender for Heart-attack risk, because some people who are morbidly obese eat that stuff too. Given I have no vices, and exercise regularly and consume mostly acceptable foods, including heart healthy stuff like Whole-grain, I'm not going ot boxed in with very overweight people, taht have varying degrees of inadequate lifestyle.
So apart from the two issues I stated above, I don't see Milk as a big worry. If you're concerned about high Calcium consumption, possibly causing issues related to Blood levels, and possible Calcifying and stiffening of Blood pathwways, as well as issues to Bones, just restrict yourself, as I'm not saying, hay whack half a dairies worth of the stuff, into you and your family every day, but I'm saying don't become too much of a Paranoid Android about consuming it, as it is still a beneficial substance, for people old enough to have solids like you and me
there's no rule toy have to have 30g per meal...why not have more meat anyway?
http://www.uponlinetraining.com/services.html
http://www.uponlinetraining.com/services.html
There's some information says a certain grams per pound of body weight. I try to have more meat but it tends me to take more carbohydrates especially rice due taste buds, maybe genetic or "culture" related. I'm not a vegeterian though.
With regards to Osteoporosis issue, Asian get lower incidences because of their nature. Most Asian were short on height, genetically, upper body or torso is short compare to "other persons". Lifestyle and work increased the Osteoporosis Risk in opinion.
With regards to Osteoporosis issue, Asian get lower incidences because of their nature. Most Asian were short on height, genetically, upper body or torso is short compare to "other persons". Lifestyle and work increased the Osteoporosis Risk in opinion.
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