best energy supplement??

thebeast125 · Post by **thebeast125** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:37 pm

what would any of you experienced lifter use for energy? redline, jetfuel, etc...?

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:36 pm

Nothing. I use Water, and Food Carbs.

Energy drinks are just often full of Simple Carbs and Caffeine. Caffeine Vasoconstricts Bloodvessels, so for Blood pumping during workouts, it's counteractive.

Also the Xanthines can be converted to Uric Acid, by something called Xanthine Hydrogenase, and unless the body uses water to get rid of UC, long term UC creation, can lead to things like Gout, (buildup of UC around the joints).

Bearing in mind UC can be created by the conversion of Nitrogen in Saturate Fats and Proteins.

So basically don't give your Kidneys, and bloodstream, more UC than needs be.

Plus the Caffeine stimulation on the Heart when working out, I think wouldn't be great. Mostly wouldn't be an issue I suspect, save for those with a Heart problem, or people who have medical advise to avoid Caffeine consumption.

As for Guarana, it is a Herb, but also has Caffeine, Guarana being a typical ingredient in many Energy Drinks.

Just stay hydrated throughout, and if needs be, train close to meal like 30-60 minutes after.

Christopheel · Post by **Christopheel** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:44 pm

Boss Man wrote:Nothing. I use Water, and Food Carbs.

Energy drinks are just often full of Simple Carbs and Caffeine. Caffeine Vasoconstricts Bloodvessels, so for Blood pumping during workouts, it's counteractive.

Also the Xanthines can be converted to Uric Acid, by something called Xanthine Hydrogenase, and unless the body uses water to get rid of UC, long term UC creation, can lead to things like Gout, (buildup of UC around the joints).

Bearing in mind UC can be created by the conversion of Nitrogen in Saturate Fats and Proteins.

So basically don't give your Kidneys, and bloodstream, more UC than needs be.

Plus the Caffeine stimulation on the Heart when working out, I think wouldn't be great. Mostly wouldn't be an issue I suspect, save for those with a Heart problem, or people who have medical advise to avoid Caffeine consumption.

As for Guarana, it is a Herb, but also has Caffeine, Guarana being a typical ingredient in many Energy Drinks.

Just stay hydrated throughout, and if needs be, train close to meal like 30-60 minutes after.

Yes true the most underated supplement for workout energy is water.

Keep hydrated and you'll see the difference.

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:56 pm

meat, veg, water...go

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:26 pm

Trust me, if you cut it completely, you'd get withdrawal symptoms for a few days but that's it. You could iive without it and will have done before, that is unless you were bottlefed on Kenco, and drank it all your life

.

Unless you drank decaff, as then you'd cut the Bloodvessel constriction, Heart stimulation, Xanthine conversion etc etc, but you wouldn't completely get rid of Caffeine, as Caffeine in Decaff is about 1/5 the amount, of a cup of strong regular.

DianaB · Post by **DianaB** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:38 pm

katiesuarez wrote:I cannot function without a cup of coffee first thing in the morning. It gives me all the energy I need.

x2
I love the stuff, and truly believe that if you drink it in moderation, like anything else, no harm done.

Christopheel · Post by **Christopheel** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:03 pm

Boss Man wrote:Trust me, if you cut it completely, you'd get withdrawal symptoms for a few days but that's it. You could iive without it and will have done before, that is unless you were bottlefed on Kenco, and drank it all your life .

Unless you drank decaff, as then you'd cut the Bloodvessel constriction, Heart stimulation, Xanthine conversion etc etc, but you wouldn't completely get rid of Caffeine, as Caffeine in Decaff is about 1/5 the amount, of a cup of strong regular.

i am a coffee lover and will defend it a bit :

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 083456.htm

littleshelly · Post by **littleshelly** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:13 am

Lots of water. Multivitamin, Flax oil, fish oil, salmon oil, calcium, magnesium, zinc. Whey protein mixed in water.

Christopheel · Post by **Christopheel** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:29 am

littleshelly wrote:Lots of water. Multivitamin, Flax oil, fish oil, salmon oil, calcium, magnesium, zinc. Whey protein mixed in water.

hum I think there's a little mistake there. There are many studies that claim that calcium may disturb magnesium absorption, so you better space calcium from the rest. Just 2 cents tough.

littleshelly · Post by **littleshelly** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:41 am

Christopheel wrote:
littleshelly wrote:Lots of water. Multivitamin, Flax oil, fish oil, salmon oil, calcium, magnesium, zinc. Whey protein mixed in water.
hum I think there's a little mistake there. There are many studies that claim that calcium may disturb magnesium absorption, so you better space calcium from the rest. Just 2 cents tough.

I did not say I took them all at the same time.

Different opinions on coffee. I drink it in the morning and love it. Black and believe there are just as many positives as negatives when it comes to caffeine/coffee.

http://men.webmd.com/features/coffee-new-health-food

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:50 am

caffeiene is an addiction really...the body doesn't need it like other minerals...everyone can do without it

littleshelly · Post by **littleshelly** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:50 am

swanso5 wrote:caffeine is an addiction really...the body doesn't need it like other minerals...everyone can do without it

Totally agree, however we do put things in our body that we can do without. It is a matter of how extreme/disciplined you want to be. I am moderate. I still want to enjoy life and enjoy some of the food/drink pleasures. Some people drink alcohol and we can do without that too. Some eat chocolate and so on. It is just a matter of choice. I am pretty disciplined but have a few bad habits.

By the way swanso5 I took your advice and have added sprinting to workout. For the last 3 days. I find that I kind of like it.

and after sprinting and going back to walking " I do it as part of walk" I find the walking is easier after exerting myself. I am starting with about 3 sprints. Hold it for about 2 1/2 minutes at 6.5-6.7 mph.
Thank you for the advice. I appreciate it. I am in the process of creating a web page on health, fitness and computers. life basically

and am going to add a section on the benefits of sprinting and Whey protein.

Christopheel · Post by **Christopheel** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:41 pm

You touch coffee, I bit you. Now it's your choice LOL

roach81 · Post by **roach81** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:15 pm

Hey beast I taking alot of supplements I found nothing better than No-explode from BSN. if your a muscletech kinda guy Nano Vapor is the way to go. Yes staying hydrated is great I am in the Army and I am always on guys about water water water. And with supplements i have to drink more water. The two i said up top they are pre-work out stuff for energy and pump. But I love supplements and ppl give them a bad rep. So i hope this helps in supplements and if ya want another advice on supplements i can assist.

littleshelly · Post by **littleshelly** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:11 pm

Christopheel wrote:You touch coffee, I bit you. Now it's your choice LOL

Hee, hee. That is how I feel about the brownie I have every Friday