Eating crappy and losing weight

FeeFee · Post by **FeeFee** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:51 am

bear with me for a minute -----CAN you not eat clean and still lose weight by ensuring that you maintain a caloric deficit through exercise?

I ask because, i havent been watching what I eat during the past month, and I've still managed to maintain as well as keep losing. What I do is, if I know I consumed 3000 calories for example, I aim for a 1000-1,200 calorie workout that day...and it appears to be working. Now mind you, I'm leaving health out of the equation...i'm just talking about caloric intake and losing.
Does this make sense to anyone? or has anyone had this experience?

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:08 pm

Yes you can still lose WEIGHT but that WEIGHT is also precious muscle!!!

FeeFee · Post by **FeeFee** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:14 pm

I dont get it. Why would you lose muscle if you are working out?

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:20 pm

Because a lot of that crappy food isn't high in protein. Take for instance potato chips, 150 cals, 8gs of fat, 13gs of carbs, 2gs of protein per serving. Chicken breast, (roughly) 220 cals, 0gs of fat, 0gs of carbs, 40gs of protein. Do you see what I'm getting at?

FeeFee · Post by **FeeFee** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:25 pm

I see what you mean...but what if you are still lifting? i mean, doesn that in itself build muscle?

also, what about if its fried chicken ---the chicken still has adequate protein, right? its just that its been compromised by the frying - which in a way equates to crappy food, but its still chicken ---am i making sense?

Christopheel · Post by **Christopheel** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:56 pm

as long as you get all your calories and proteins you wont loose muscles if you lift.

If you only lift and eat donnuts then you will gain fat and loose muscles.

Loose fat and maintain muscles is only doable with a 100% clean diet.

With a shitty diet you will :

Gain FAt and muscle or loose muscle and gain fat.

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:47 pm

you cannot out train a bad diet...read 100 times

i'm taking health out of the equation?? why?? what's the point?? just sit on the couch and eat trans fats straight out of the cup..

FeeFee · Post by **FeeFee** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:45 am

swanso5 wrote:you cannot out train a bad diet...read 100 times

i'm taking health out of the equation?? why?? what's the point?? just sit on the couch and eat trans fats straight out of the cup..

I think you misunderstood ---i meant i am taking health out of the equation for the purpose of this discussion.
Er...this was just a theory i wanted to hear what everyone has to say. I fell off the horse a little, ate badly for a few weeks, and still lost so it just made me curious. Thats all. Guys, breathe!!!!!!

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:27 pm

Depends on the Frying. Deep Frying a la fast food outlets, would probably sacrifice more Chicken Protein, than slower, more casual frying in a Pan, and ultimately be lower calorie, not being engorged in bad fats.

However if you fried in a Pan, at a low heat, and did it that way, or used something like a George Foreman, then you would still have adequate Protein to bulk with.

FeeFee · Post by **FeeFee** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:52 pm

Thanks Katie

vamp · Post by **vamp** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:39 am

Ok this is late but, ok

Couple bad weeks? OK, get on track, we all struggle from time to time with diet or just going to the gym or whatever. You know a clean diet and what you need to get there so ......

Anyways, keep working at it and I'm glad you kept the excercise up, despite the diet!

cheers

Ronbell · Post by **Ronbell** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:13 pm

I'm sorry, that isn't the way to go.

Your body is very comfortable with whatever weight you're at now. When you try and shock it by reducing calories it goes into "starvation mode". Meaning it will conserve energy. It also means that once you've came out of a deficit based diet, that it will "stock up for the winter" sort of, and you will very easily and very quickly REGAIN weight.

For example: I was 190 pounds 2 years ago. I had financial issues that severely reduced income for food. I lost 17 pounds in a month. I had little energy and I was constantly hungry.

After coming out of this financial issue, I returned to eating the same way I had when I was 190 pounds. BOOM. Shot right up to 220 pounds in 3 WEEKS!

I have since then been a little bit more self conscious of what I eat, work out 3-5 times a week, take a protein supplement.

I can now run 5-10km, lift 50% more weight, have 3" off waist, I rarely get tired, and guess what...I STILL weigh 190 pounds.

The moral of the story: Weight loss and healthy weight loss are two entirely different things. If you want to look healthy it's a lifestyle, your results now is a temporary thing, unless you keep at it. (unless you have killer genetics)