Muscle Milk vs. CytoGainer

[silent1029]

According to T-Nation Muscle Milk is bad for you. http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1231523
Has anyone tried the CytoGainer yet? I know it's made by the same company so do you think that CytoGainer would be bad too?

[Christopheel]

I don't know a lot of thing about musclemilk and all is product, but, there's ton of simple whey protein powder, you could simply try another trademark if you're not sure ...

[HOUSTON TEXAN]

Just go with 100% whey.

[korenkojesse]

Monster milk: Check ingredients works great

[Boss Man]

Question for you, not being rude here, but you say it works great but is it necessarily a healthy thing to use?

I haven't paid that product much attention but you have, so just wondering about what you said.

As afor instance one guy on an old site I used to use, claimed Celltech worked great, but one thing I could but didn't say was, it's not about if it works, it's about whether it's right to dose yourself with 10g Creatine in one hit?

I've always believed it's not.

[Sunwarrior]

Obviously I'm a bit late to this post however for anyone out there and it still not sure about Muscle milk, you should know that Muscle milk is more of a meal-replacement while Cytogainer is designed with the a optimum carb-protein ratio to build mass.

Now as to whether or not they are good products depends upon ones definition of good.
Muscle milk has 6g of healthy medium chain triglycerides, 16g protein, and somewhere between 13-16 carbs per scoop. The protein is mainly concentrate, which isn't bad for you. It's just not as pure as isolate, which would contain less lactose, fat, etc.
The source of sweetener is sucralose( an artificial sweetener that has yet to be proven dangerous) and acesulfame potassium(which can cause side effects of headaches, nausea, depression, liver and kidney issues, etc). All of this can b found on http://www.buzzle.com/articles/acesulfa ... fects.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
All of this sums up to a product that works, but that I would not recommend taking .

The Cytogainer is similar in its usage of artificial sweeteners. However because it is designed for building mass it's carb-protein ratio is much higher per serving. And it contains less fat per scoop. However it's main source of carbs is maltodextrin which is presumed to be the highest glycemic food/ingredient on the market.
Such an Ingredient will be extremely effective for putting weight on however it is not good for the body's blood sugar to spike that high.
To put it bluntly this can cause Diabetes.

So again we reach product that does what it is intended to do but, long term usage is not guarantee side-effect free.

Now you decide whether or not these are good products.

[Boss Man]

Actually I think dates rank higher than maltodextrin on an Glycaemic index. maltodextrin is about 92 and Dates are actually about 105, but again quanity plays a part too.

Bloodsugar spiking after workouts should be okay, as bloodsugar will be lower. It's when it's frequent and occuring when bloodsugar is normal, you'd get a major problem, especvially on a frequent basis.

Someone consuming maltodextrin either as a product ingredient, or a standalone product possibly stacked with one or more other things, should be at no risk of diabates I feel, if they do this 3-5 times a week after workouts only.

However were the person to supplement on a daily basis with such products, half or a whole breakfast and possibly a snack or two then yes I would agree, as more than once aily consumption every day would impose a potential diabetes risk .

It's like many things really. 4 cans of coke a day might cause caffeine addiction, but 4 cans a week won't.

[Sunwarrior]

Actually I think dates rank higher than maltodextrin on an Glycaemic index. maltodextrin is about 92 and Dates are actually about 105, but again quanity plays a part too.

Bloodsugar spiking after workouts should be okay, as bloodsugar will be lower. It's when it's frequent and occuring when bloodsugar is normal, you'd get a major problem, especvially on a frequent basis.

Someone consuming maltodextrin either as a product ingredient, or a standalone product possibly stacked with one or more other things, should be at no risk of diabates I feel, if they do this 3-5 times a week after workouts only.

However were the person to supplement on a daily basis with such products, half or a whole breakfast and possibly a snack or two then yes I would agree, as more than once aily consumption every day would impose a potential diabetes risk .

It's like many things really. 4 cans of coke a day might cause caffeine addiction, but 4 cans a week won't.

Of course. I was thinking that replenishing glycogen to that extent was only necessary for after a long workout(lasting more than 1 hour) but I might've just confused it with something I read about carb-loading for long bouts of cardio.