good breakfast
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good breakfast
100 calorie no fat 5g yogourt, protein drink, banana, a bagal low in fat and like 8gs of protein, Go lean 13g protein cereal..Is this a good breakfast for gaining weight? Not sure calories of the others and fat.
Have the Banana, about 10-15 minues before the rest of the food, and dump the Bagel.
Bearing in mind the Maltodextrin, (I'm guessing), in the shake, the Cereal Carbs, and still 18g Carbs, even off a small Banana, the Bagel is going to just bump up Carb / Sugar intake, and just increase Glycemic Load more.
Whilst you need a decent first thing to spike Bloodsugar, you don't want one that's overly large, so the Bagel is the weak link here, and should go.
Bearing in mind the Maltodextrin, (I'm guessing), in the shake, the Cereal Carbs, and still 18g Carbs, even off a small Banana, the Bagel is going to just bump up Carb / Sugar intake, and just increase Glycemic Load more.
Whilst you need a decent first thing to spike Bloodsugar, you don't want one that's overly large, so the Bagel is the weak link here, and should go.
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great post boss man. I didn't even think of that - makes me want to review diet again and see how those things pan out.Boss Man wrote:Have the Banana, about 10-15 minues before the rest of the food, and dump the Bagel.
Bearing in mind the Maltodextrin, (I'm guessing), in the shake, the Cereal Carbs, and still 18g Carbs, even off a small Banana, the Bagel is going to just bump up Carb / Sugar intake, and just increase Glycemic Load more.
Whilst you need a decent first thing to spike Bloodsugar, you don't want one that's overly large, so the Bagel is the weak link here, and should go.
You're on the right track though as far as quantity goes for gaining mass
Remembering of course when you bulk up, you want gradual bulking.
At some point a bodybuilder will find it hard to stay lean and bulk, as calorie intake becomes so high, excess calorie conversion to Fat increases.
In the early stages though, leaner bulk gains are possible, but not when you just whack about 50 calories here, 50 calories there into your diet, for no discernable reason, or for reasons like "I thought some extra Carbs would be a good idea", or "I really do need 50 grams of Protein every meal."
If you put some extra calories in for pointless reasons, chances are you're possibly having some needless calories, if you don't yet need those extra calories to progress, then you're kind of "dirty bulking".
This high calorie eating, is not the case of someone who might be bulking, and be about 150 lbs, but is the case for people who might be approximately 170-175 lbs and more.
When you think about it, if your body has made intial progress off 2,000 calories a day, should you then leap up to 3,500, and eat like a 180 pounder?
No, because your body is not ready for a 180lb guys diet, when you're 155lb's for example, so when the body stalls, and cals need a boost, keep it simple, go for small increases like 200-300. Just about enough extra calories to kickstart gains again.
You might get a little excess calorie conversion, say off 50 or 60 of the new calories, as a rough guess, but not from 1300+ doing it the other way, and when you're strength gets a little higher every 3-7 days, the more of those 200-300 calories you need, to keep progressing, the less spare ones are left to convert, so Fat gains with muscle bulk, remain low.
If you get a lot of Calorie conversion to Fat, bumping cals up greatly, you can't do anything about it much, as doing more Cardio, might cut Fat, or cutting Carbs, to turn extra Fat into Energy, might work, but then they could also hinder or reverse muscle gains too.
So they key, (I feel), when you bulk, is small increases.
Think about it, if you eat 2,000 cals a day, then bump up to 2,300 when you plateau, your extra cals on say a 6 meal strategy, is only 50 more per meal, which is approximately 5g Protein, 5g Carbs, 1g Fat.
That's like having a few Mushrooms, or a bit of Low fat Cheese, as examples, not something dramatic, like another Chicken Breast and a Banana, on top of a Chicken Breast, Potato, and some Broccolli, when you don't need such a high increase of cals to keep motoring.
Plus you then spend a lot more money on food, and if some of that high caloric increase your body doesn't use, doesn't convert to Fat, it may result in things like higher Poo levels, or vomiting, as slight possibilities, as well as the Fat conversion.
When you find 2,200, 2,300 doesn't work, sneak up cals again, about the same amount.
Slow and steady, keeps your food buying costs lower intially, until you're getting pretty solid, and have ot spend a lot more, than you did to start with, and it also keeps negative reactions to caloric increases, lower or less pronounced, when little increments are used, not big ones.
At some point a bodybuilder will find it hard to stay lean and bulk, as calorie intake becomes so high, excess calorie conversion to Fat increases.
In the early stages though, leaner bulk gains are possible, but not when you just whack about 50 calories here, 50 calories there into your diet, for no discernable reason, or for reasons like "I thought some extra Carbs would be a good idea", or "I really do need 50 grams of Protein every meal."
If you put some extra calories in for pointless reasons, chances are you're possibly having some needless calories, if you don't yet need those extra calories to progress, then you're kind of "dirty bulking".
This high calorie eating, is not the case of someone who might be bulking, and be about 150 lbs, but is the case for people who might be approximately 170-175 lbs and more.
When you think about it, if your body has made intial progress off 2,000 calories a day, should you then leap up to 3,500, and eat like a 180 pounder?
No, because your body is not ready for a 180lb guys diet, when you're 155lb's for example, so when the body stalls, and cals need a boost, keep it simple, go for small increases like 200-300. Just about enough extra calories to kickstart gains again.
You might get a little excess calorie conversion, say off 50 or 60 of the new calories, as a rough guess, but not from 1300+ doing it the other way, and when you're strength gets a little higher every 3-7 days, the more of those 200-300 calories you need, to keep progressing, the less spare ones are left to convert, so Fat gains with muscle bulk, remain low.
If you get a lot of Calorie conversion to Fat, bumping cals up greatly, you can't do anything about it much, as doing more Cardio, might cut Fat, or cutting Carbs, to turn extra Fat into Energy, might work, but then they could also hinder or reverse muscle gains too.
So they key, (I feel), when you bulk, is small increases.
Think about it, if you eat 2,000 cals a day, then bump up to 2,300 when you plateau, your extra cals on say a 6 meal strategy, is only 50 more per meal, which is approximately 5g Protein, 5g Carbs, 1g Fat.
That's like having a few Mushrooms, or a bit of Low fat Cheese, as examples, not something dramatic, like another Chicken Breast and a Banana, on top of a Chicken Breast, Potato, and some Broccolli, when you don't need such a high increase of cals to keep motoring.
Plus you then spend a lot more money on food, and if some of that high caloric increase your body doesn't use, doesn't convert to Fat, it may result in things like higher Poo levels, or vomiting, as slight possibilities, as well as the Fat conversion.
When you find 2,200, 2,300 doesn't work, sneak up cals again, about the same amount.
Slow and steady, keeps your food buying costs lower intially, until you're getting pretty solid, and have ot spend a lot more, than you did to start with, and it also keeps negative reactions to caloric increases, lower or less pronounced, when little increments are used, not big ones.