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badversion
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Db chest press and machine chest press

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Well hand starts to shake on db chest press. above 16kgs :( while i can do it i need to stablize hand with the hp from a spotter
So trainer suggested me to go on machine chest press and build strength and then again start db chest press

2) left and hand is weaker help me here too
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I don't think using the chest press machine will help much as you need to build the strength in your stabilising muscles, and using a machine just won't do that as effectively. Two methods that I think will help you is:

1. Building strength in your rotator cuff as the strength here directly relates to how much weight you can push in a chest press movement.

2. During the DB chest press, perform the eccentric portion a lot slower. In this exercise this would be the negative movement where you lower the weight. Lower the weight over 4 seconds and raise the weight over 2 seconds. You'll have to drop the weight, but as Arnie himself said, as long as you can feel the muscle working then the weight becomes irrelevant.

I'm sure others will come in with some great advice too, but give these a go and see how you get on.

Good luck!
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Re: Db chest press and machine chest press

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Well i do external rotation

And which muscle helps to increase chest press?
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badversion wrote: And which muscle helps to increase chest press?
Your pectorals are the prime mover in chest press, but it's a compound movement so you've got triceps, deltoids and muscles in your upper back all working together help in the movement either by assisting the lift or stabilising you during the lift. Make sure you work the muscle from all angles as well eg. incline, flat and decline as these recruit the muscles differently.
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Re: Db chest press and machine chest press

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Upper Back and Shoulder muscles stabilise, so things like Delts, Lats, Rhomboids, Traps, Upper Erector and Multifidus areas, Rotator Cuff, Levator Scapulae etc.

Things like Biceps and Triceps Synergise, because the facilitate the movement, so they are all important.

Declines are okay, but the main ones are Flat benching as a priority, inclines probably as a secondary consideration and declines if you want, but otherwise omit them.

You can always differ the work on the Chest by doing flats, then adding something else in like Peck Dec, Flyes or Crossovers, that have the same arm movement and forget the inclines and declines perhaps. These things hit the Pectoral area pretty fully anyway, so there's not necessarily a need to have inclines or declines as must do exercises, unless you want to. They're good, but not what I call primary players in chest building.
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Both the vertical chest press machine and the barbell bench press are exercises that target the pectoralis major muscle of the chest.
The bench press is probably the most widely used exercise in gyms because of it effectiveness in muscle development.
The chest press machine is executed with the torso in an upright position.Safety is one of the primary advantages of using a chest press machine.
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Boss Man wrote: Declines are okay, but the main ones are Flat benching as a priority, inclines probably as a secondary consideration and declines if you want, but otherwise omit them.
I do agree with you on the declines. Can't say I do them myself, but worth knowing about.

I do think inclines are useful though as they're a good way to change what you're doing, you just can't lift as much as you would on a flat bench.

Flat pronated flyes super set with an 30 degree incline DB Press for example is quite a nice way to hit a large portion of muscle in your chest
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Re: Db chest press and machine chest press

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Thank you all :)

Well I can Pick up more weight but only if some just slightly supports wrist

I do shrugs, lateral raises, overhead press and incline chest press and as you know chest press...

I do 10 reps in 3 sets and pick up 25kgs :( and last 2 sets 29kgs :(

I was thinking of going for 2 sets going 30kgs 1 sets and going about 35kgs next?
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