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MissJenaKay wrote: Cassie,

I think you're fairly accurate as far as the whole clothing thing goes, plus, I tend to wear jeans and t-shirts because they're cheaper, and I'm kinda poor. :? But, yeah, in any case, I do believe that if I could get weight lower, then I'd be more willing to experiment in wardrobe, also, I've never really felt that clothing at size was something I really wanted to invest in. Especially since the whole process of buying the clothing in the first place was such a discouraging and frustrating task.

I also think you're at least a little right in saying that changing body may help with some other issues, but as for shyness and a couple other mood issues go, that's issues that I don't think losing weight can help, neurological chemical stuff. . . :/

For workouts, I usually work out two days, take one off, work to days, take one off, etc. It's been a little crazy lately, because it's been extremely hot in area lately, and so doing a whole lot of working out makes me feel like I'm going to die of heat stroke. (Haha) So workouts haven't been as regimented as usual. But I do think that something like what you mentioned could help a lot. only issue with your suggestion about using local high school's track. It's a six mile walk just to get there. Haha. So when I walk or jog, I generally jog around the block a couple times.

Also, with your suggestions about what I eat. . . That seems like A LOT. I honestly don't know if I could bring myself to eat that much . . . I'd try, but I honestly think that eating often enough to do that would make me feel horrible . . . :( As it is right now, I try to eat at least two meals a day or one meal and a couple snacks. On a really good day, like today, I've had two meals and two snacks, I don't feel awful, but I feel pretty gross and it's still no where near as much as you're suggesting. . .

Jena
Hey there girl!

Its been a crazy busy day here so I haven't been able to get back to ya. I'll try to answer your questions in the next 24 hours. :) Didn't want you to think I was ignoring ya.

Cassie
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cassiegose wrote: Hey there girl!

Its been a crazy busy day here so I haven't been able to get back to ya. I'll try to answer your questions in the next 24 hours. :) Didn't want you to think I was ignoring ya.

Cassie
No problem, doll. :] I understand being busy. :]

Jena. :]
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MissJenaKay wrote:
Cassie,

I think you're fairly accurate as far as the whole clothing thing goes, plus, I tend to wear jeans and t-shirts because they're cheaper, and I'm kinda poor. :? But, yeah, in any case, I do believe that if I could get weight lower, then I'd be more willing to experiment in wardrobe, also, I've never really felt that clothing at size was something I really wanted to invest in. Especially since the whole process of buying the clothing in the first place was such a discouraging and frustrating task.

I also think you're at least a little right in saying that changing body may help with some other issues, but as for shyness and a couple other mood issues go, that's issues that I don't think losing weight can help, neurological chemical stuff. . . :/

For workouts, I usually work out two days, take one off, work to days, take one off, etc. It's been a little crazy lately, because it's been extremely hot in area lately, and so doing a whole lot of working out makes me feel like I'm going to die of heat stroke. (Haha) So workouts haven't been as regimented as usual. But I do think that something like what you mentioned could help a lot. only issue with your suggestion about using local high school's track. It's a six mile walk just to get there. Haha. So when I walk or jog, I generally jog around the block a couple times.

Also, with your suggestions about what I eat. . . That seems like A LOT. I honestly don't know if I could bring myself to eat that much . . . I'd try, but I honestly think that eating often enough to do that would make me feel horrible . . . :( As it is right now, I try to eat at least two meals a day or one meal and a couple snacks. On a really good day, like today, I've had two meals and two snacks, I don't feel awful, but I feel pretty gross and it's still no where near as much as you're suggesting. . .

Jena

Hi Jena,

I'm so sorry for the delay. Life is crazy busy right now.

As far as the meals go, I realize that the plan I suggested seem like alot of food. However you really do need to try to eat more. With your current caloric intake you've pretty much shut your metabolism down causing your body to hold on to every ounce of energy (or fat) as a survival mechanism. I'm definitely not suggesting you do anything drastic with your diet, however I definitely do suggest you try making some small changes over time to speed your metabolism up. I totally understand that sometimes making these changes is just a matter of baby steps. So maybe this week could you could:
1-Swap out the frosted flakes for something like bran flakes
2-swap out the ice burg lettuce for spinach
3-swap out the white bread for wheat
4-Add a handful of nuts (about 20-30) to the morning meals and another to the afternoon meals or simply add 2-3 tbsns of natural nut butter.

Do you think you could do just these things for this week?
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cassiegose wrote: Hi Jena,

I'm so sorry for the delay. Life is crazy busy right now.

As far as the meals go, I realize that the plan I suggested seem like alot of food. However you really do need to try to eat more. With your current caloric intake you've pretty much shut your metabolism down causing your body to hold on to every ounce of energy (or fat) as a survival mechanism. I'm definitely not suggesting you do anything drastic with your diet, however I definitely do suggest you try making some small changes over time to speed your metabolism up. I totally understand that sometimes making these changes is just a matter of baby steps. So maybe this week could you could:
1-Swap out the frosted flakes for something like bran flakes
2-swap out the ice burg lettuce for spinach
3-swap out the white bread for wheat
4-Add a handful of nuts (about 20-30) to the morning meals and another to the afternoon meals or simply add 2-3 tbsns of natural nut butter.

Do you think you could do just these things for this week?
Cassie,

The delay is not a problem. I'm pretty patient so unless it ended up taking you a couple weeks, I wouldn't have gotten annoyed or anything. I understand that life gets in the way sometimes. :] As for the food suggestions, I can try, but I'll have to go to the store, or ask mother to, to get the new stuff. Which I kinda doubt is going to happen since she usually tries to avoid going shopping for groceries more than once a month... But I'll do best.

Jena.
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amatlack wrote:Once a month?! How do you keep any fresh food in the house?? Don't your veggies and fruits and such go bad after a couple weeks? Yikes!
Nope, that just means we have no good fresh foods after the first two weeks. :/ I try to get momma to shop more often, but she absolutely hates crowds and stores.
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MissJenaKay wrote:
amatlack wrote:Once a month?! How do you keep any fresh food in the house?? Don't your veggies and fruits and such go bad after a couple weeks? Yikes!
Nope, that just means we have no good fresh foods after the first two weeks. :/ I try to get momma to shop more often, but she absolutely hates crowds and stores.
Hi Jena,

That is a bit of an issue with not having access to a wide variety of healthy food. For fruits and veggies you could always buy frozen varieties... throw them in the freezer and use as needed. Also, things like eggs, legumes (lentils are awesome and very cheap!), nuts, oats, brown rice, quinoa, whole grain cereals... all store for quite a while so you could always stock up on these items.

Sometimes its just a matter of making changes where you can and just making the best of what you've got. We all have barriers that we have to overcome... its just a matter of looking at your situation and finding areas where improvements and changes can be made. :)
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Question. Whole grain rice vs. brown rice, which is better? What's the difference?
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So it's basically the same thing?
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cassiegose wrote: Hi Jena,

That is a bit of an issue with not having access to a wide variety of healthy food. For fruits and veggies you could always buy frozen varieties... throw them in the freezer and use as needed. Also, things like eggs, legumes (lentils are awesome and very cheap!), nuts, oats, brown rice, quinoa, whole grain cereals... all store for quite a while so you could always stock up on these items.

Sometimes its just a matter of making changes where you can and just making the best of what you've got. We all have barriers that we have to overcome... its just a matter of looking at your situation and finding areas where improvements and changes can be made. :)
Cassie,

Next time we go shopping I'll try that, getting more frozen fruits and veggies and I'll try to get momma to buy extras of the healthy stuff. :] Thanks for all the help.

Jena. :]
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cassiegose wrote: "Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplaceable spark, in the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and the not at all. Do not let the hero in your soul perish and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but never have been able to reach. The world you desire can be won. It exists. It is real. It is possible. IT IS YOURS."

Cassie :mrgreen:
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wolfen147 wrote:Hi Jena, I just wanted to put a teenage guy's point of view in this thread :)

Don't sell yourself too short. You are, in fact, VERY pretty!

MissJenaKay wrote:
I also think you're at least a little right in saying that changing body may help with some other issues, but as for shyness and a couple other mood issues go, that's issues that I don't think losing weight can help, neurological chemical stuff. . . :/
In honest opinion, I believe the neurological and chemical stuff doctors describe is 80% bullshit. I've been overweight entire life and I'm 6'3" tall, and I used to be shy/scared about the jocks who were a foot shorter than me, and I hated talking to new people. When I finally took the time to look at mom's side of the family and realized that the majority of them are overweight with diabetes, I took a stand and made a change.

If you need a guy's perspective.point of view/advice, feel free to give me a holler. Anyone on this forum will tell you I like to help people :)

~Wolf
Hello, Doll,

First of all, please do not call me pretty, and don't tell me I'm selling myself short. I'm really not pretty, I hate how I look, face, body or otherwise. I hate hearing compliments, it just... I don't know, it makes me angry that people would fool themselves into thinking that I'm attractive. (By the way, I apologise for bitchiness there.)

I'm glad that you decided to make changes. Change is good, regardless of what it is, usually. :] Also, as far as your family having weight and diabetes issues, I face the same scares in own family. Both sides of family are over weight, both have prevalent diabetes and prevalent heart disease. It scares me A LOT, but I'm having issues trying to decide which scares me more, the potential health issues, or the miserable and disgusted feelings I get when I eat.

Also, thank you for the little bit of advice and info, however, I know that issues stem from psychological and neurological chemical imbalances. I've been a large girl whole life, but it was only recently, about five years ago, that I started having severe depression problems, to the point of me becoming a severe cutter. To the point that I would add around 100 slices to arms and wrists each time I felt horrible. I also have OCD and I'm bipolar. The OCD I have suffered from whole life and the bipolar set in only a couple months after the depression. I will admit that I tend to get happy after working out or something of the sort, but eating in general makes me miserable, depressed and sick, so even though I eat healthy, which I pretty much always have (with the exception of a couple guilty pleasures ex: ice cream and gummy worms) I tend not to eat nearly as much as I should. If you were to look at nutrition calendar, the days are perfectly accurate, I make sure that I document what I eat, directly after eating it. As you can see, I don't eat much at all. I do drink a lot of water and a lot of tea. Those things I tend not to document merely because I always have a drink in hand, so I'd have to be on the computer all day.

Thanks again for your input and the offer for your help, doll.
Jena :]
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I'm going to say something now and feel free to shoot me down in flames, but you ARE a good looking person and I think you ARE being a touch hard on yourself :).

There I've said it.

I also think that within you is a person that to some extent is beautiful and that is why you look like you do, because some of it radiates outwards.

I know you hate compliments, to be honest I feel a little awkward myself with them sometimes, not because I hate them, but because I feel sometimes as if they're unnecessary, but I accept them with good grace. That's me telling it from perspective, not giving you advise on that particular matter.

I also want to tell you that I am exceptionally proud of you, for talking about your personal issues. You know it takes heart, courage and strength, to disclose the things you do and at your age, that is an absolutely fantastic show of self confidence, when clearly in relation to what you've experienced emotionally and mentally in life, you have not had a serious amount of experience of the big world view, like someone twice your age might.

So your heart, courage and confidence impess me and I often do find a certain beauty in such admissions from people. I don't look at you and see someone who should be pitied, but someone who should be praised for standing up and saying this is me, it's not perfect but I am trying to make it better and I want to be helped and supported, instead of stumbling along, trying to do it myself and to a large extent failing.

Your attitude impresses me also. I know you're not trying to be bitchy, you just have what some might call an uncommon mindset, to some types of positive comments and need some way to express what you feel when people say those things.

Take it as read though, whether you like hearing this or not, you DO have a certain beauty about you, that shines from within and also is present in your words too. It shows that you are not broken, unfixable, or damaged, you're just someone with some imperfections, that could be corrected in part or maybe even in whole.

Maybe some of your aversion to some types of positive comments, may stem from never getting told certain things enough in your past, or maybe you feel as if you don't deserve nice comments, but you truly do and you have come here and every time, displayed the qualities of a Lady and been a great part of the community. Warm, respectful, honest, genuine and humble.

You've shown a lot to others of yourself and let us see some of the best of you and it's really appreciated :). You add value to the community and you deserve the help and warm comments you get given.

I know with time you CAN achieve what you want and you should be so, so proud of all your attempts right now, to overcome your physical, mental and emotional hurdles, because for someone with your clearly difficult background, every little positive probably counts and is worth double, compared to most people.

So WELL DONE for doing what you have been doing. Training, logging your food, trying to be proactive on caloric intake and quality of food too.

I won't say you're selling yourself short, I'll say you're slowly but surely learning the true value of you as a person and I think in time, you'll be able to recognise and accept more of the things, members like me see in you and be able to appreciate their value and impact on others.

So you can shoot me down in flames if you want, for what I've written, I'm a grown man, I'll take your heat and your emotional bullets if you want :), but I will reiterate just how proud of you I am, for talking about your issues and being able to show people here, just how wonderfully human and warm you are.

I hope if not now, then someday soon, you can be proud of yourself too. I think you're a young "Lady", with a great future and you deserve tremendous happiness.

Keep up the hard work and keep doing everything you're doing, because if you believe in yourself like we do, you will be able to achieve some pretty amazing things.

GOOD LUCK Jena.

:) :).
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Boss Man (That feels awkward to write. :P),

Thank you for taking all the time to think out and write all that you did. I greatly appreciate the fact that you've paid attention to me. It's not something that occurs very much. I may not be able to accept myself, I can't even accept compliments. But the fact that other people see good things in me amazes me. I've always felt like I'm a worthless person, and so I always let myself be taken advantage of and I generally don't care. I'm not going to shoot you down in flames for complimenting me, but it still makes skin crawl and it somewhat disturbs me that someone would call me beautiful. I've always been told "You'd be prettier if... xyz" I've never been told that I'm beautiful as is, except for maybe two or three people in life, and I've always laughed in their face. I honestly don't believe the compliments, and I don't think I will until I have body and everything else the way I want it.

Thank you for being proud, I know there are not many people that are, I mean, parents are, but they are only ever proud of academic accomplishments. They've never once told me that they're proud that I've survived suicide attempts, or that I've quit cutting, or that I reached out for help with emotional and mental issues, they're only proud of things that the public eye can see. Which, honestly, at times, makes me feel like all the work I have done to improve myself is for naught. So, thank you, thank you very much. It's scary how sometimes people that you've never known in person and you've only known for a very short time can be so caring and helpful and supportive. So thank you to you and everyone else that has been kind and welcoming to me since I joined here.

Thank you all, so much.
Jena

P.S. You really think I'd get angry and shoot down elders?? I was raised better than that, sir. :wink: :D
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Athene wrote:
cassiegose wrote: "Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplaceable spark, in the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and the not at all. Do not let the hero in your soul perish and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but never have been able to reach. The world you desire can be won. It exists. It is real. It is possible. IT IS YOURS."

Cassie :mrgreen:
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wolfen147 wrote:
In honest opinion, I believe the neurological and chemical stuff doctors describe is 80% bullshit. I've been overweight entire life and I'm 6'3" tall, and I used to be shy/scared about the jocks who were a foot shorter than me, and I hated talking to new people. When I finally took the time to look at mom's side of the family and realized that the majority of them are overweight with diabetes, I took a stand and made a change.

When I first went to the gym with dad, I weighed myself and I was a whopping 312 pounds! At age 17 and the way I was going, I knew the only way I would go is downhill unless I changed everything.

I started working out and eating better, and subconsciously self-esteem rose and shyness disappeared. Exercise and eating right changes your body AND mind, without you realizing it. Lifting weights, out of habit and discipline made posture improve and within a couple months, girlfriend noticed that I was clearing the halls in school. because I was walking confidently (and size being a good factor) just projecting that confidence to other people they would move out of way without me being aggressive OR even making eye contact.

point is that people underestimate the power of a healthy lifestyle. A friend of mine suffered from chronic headaches and she would be sick all the time. I told her all about journey, and she jumped on the boat too. Her headaches are gone, and she hasn't felt sick in months. At first, when she was reluctant to join me in fitness, she was like "It's not all an easy Kyle..some things only doctors can do.." Boy did I give her a piece of mind! :wink: I told her it's not easy, it's just SIMPLE.

If you need a guy's perspective.point of view/advice, feel free to give me a holler. Anyone on this forum will tell you I like to help people :)

~Wolf
WOLFIE!!!!

Hey there pal!! Just a few quick things for you...

First... That ^ was AWESOME advice.

Second... YOU are such an inspiration!!!!

Third... I am SO freaking proud of you and your progress!! This site is lucky to have you around. You're doing great and I have a feeling you are destined to do some pretty great things in your life. Keep up the awesome work. :mrgreen:

Cassie
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