Fat Around Button Area?

[Martin-Boy2]

I think the issue with knees may be;

Pes Anserinus Bursitis

Although im not sure of course and it's just a possibility, definitely some irritation with 1 or more of the hamstring tendons though.

[Boss Man]

Bursitis is basically an iflammation of the fluid filled sacs, (Bursae), that exist around joints to facilitate better movement / motion.

The inflammation hinders this process, by causing one or more sacs to swell.

[fitoverforty]

She wants someone to be confident enough to come and talk to her, you have anxiety to approach her

Try thinking about it from her perspective. She may feel by now that you are just not interested in her. I'm trying to think about how it looks to her, how she sees it. For example: She has seen you coming in now for weeks, you look really nice, she has smiled at you, made eye contact, been friendly, but you haven't approached her or spoke to her. If it were me, I would think "he must not be that into me, or maybe I'm not his type" but that's just me a as girl speaking on how I would react. Who knows what she is thinking - the only way to know is to break the ice and say "hi" to her. These are just thoughts of course. Just trying to look at it from a different angle.
Like Brent said, when you go in there, don't wait, don't give your mind time to evaluate, contemplate, over think the situation, just talk to her. ASK for her when you first walk in. And if you just feel like you can't do that, then maybe it is time to let it go and move on. Trust your instincts.

[Martin-Boy2]

Bursitis is basically an iflammation of the fluid filled sacs, (Bursae), that exist around joints to facilitate better movement / motion.

The inflammation hinders this process, by causing one or more sacs to swell.

Even if it's not Bursitis, it must be something to do with the Pes Anserinus group, never heard of it before, an uncommon problem, which seems reasonable for me, and there's definitely issues there, could be accompained by a weak VMO, but i can't do single leg work to strengthen it due to knees originally hurting. Just getting really tired of these doctors doing nothing to help me. Looking at knees and touching it for a second and saying "come back and we'll investigate it further", or looking at cervical spine x-ray and saying it's clear, thinking there's no problem anymore and saying no more on the matter. Umm hello? I still have severe neck pain on a daily basis?

Just going to have to keep hasslng them, it's a shame the locom doctor has left, she was really helpful and i would probably be on the road to recovery by now, i don't care though, im going to keep going there 2x a week if i must, until the get the message that im not fooling around.


@FOF and Brent, that's right, never saw it for her view and it makes perfect sense. I should go in there and speak to her straight away, last few times Ive been there she hasn't been in though, even though i had been prepared to talk to her, just luck lol

[Martin-Boy2]

Was planning on going down to the store today and just going for it ya know. Not coping out, but just don't feel like it today, it's getting on now, gonna make a CD and just have an easy night, back of eyes have been hurting for a few days and Ive been yawning all day, so to be fair don't really feel up to it, when i see her i'll speak to her, i'll just try tomorrow.

It was last tuesday i saw her anyway i think, so she may be working tomorrow, i could've walked down there tonight even though i don't feel up to it and she may not be in anyway, im starting to care less about it which is why im getting more confident with "getting the job done" lol.

I have in mind just going up to her and telling her id like to know her better and ask for her number, when it comes closer to going down there, doubts come in and i feel to small talk first, but i think that's just nerves more than anything, which is to be expected, i am human after all, i hope, even though body may resemble a 90 year old at the moment

[Martin-Boy2]

OK, the MOUSE has SPOKEN.

You'll all be very pleased to know that i actually asked her for her number tonight and...

So i went in there, it was empty, which was good, she was working, i was looking at films for a while, she came to a shelf near me, for the first time in ages i thought "it's now or never", but i bottled it and she ended up walking away, i didn't notice her making eye contact with me so that wasn't exactly an opener.

I thought Ive fucking blew it, what an , only chance to be alone with her and nothing, insides were eating me up and i thought to head home and bash head against the wall.

So, after about 20mins of stalling looking at the same films time and time again, do i rent this piece of shit that im not even going to watch, or how about this one that will lie on the shelf until tomorrow? Hmm, decisions.

Eventually the store started to get emptier, and i noticed her out the counter - alone. Now was chance,

I said hello and asked her if she was alright. Started well. I gave her the movie i "intended" to watch, although i know i probably won't bother watching it. Then as she asked for card i asked her if she was from around here. She said fairly local and told me where abouts. I then asked her how come i didn't see her out much, she said "i dunno really, if im not here working im a bit everywhere, i dunno" - these may not of been the exact words - brain isn't a database. She asked me if i knew a boy called Forename, Surname - the surname was the same as hers i think so i think it may of been her brother, i replied no and she said oh you look like him.
I then asked her if she went to any locations, she said sometimes, she then asked me if i did, i said occasionally, but not too often as i find it shit - at x place. She asked if i went to any others, and i said occasionally but i don't really go out drinking every weekend.

Can't remember much else except she asked how i got hold of the vouchers i was paying for with, and i just said that mum bought loads ages ago and just been using them, cracked a little joke and that was that. I thought she must of been waiting on the computer - i said "it's taking a while" and she said "oh no, it's just because we were talking", so i thought oh. You know when you say something and think - why did i say that? Well that was one of those times.

It ended by me asking how old she was, she said 18, she asked me and i said take a guess, she guessed 20, but no 19. So then i just said, can i get your number?

She looked at the floor and tried to avoid eye contact a bit and said "i don't give out number", she then looked at me and i must of looked like "what" as i didn't really understand her as she mumbled a bit, and she said "because i have a boyfriend" i think she repeated the i don't give out number bit twice as she mumbled a bit the first time. So i just replied "oh" and she said "i'll talk to you in here though"? It ended with me asking if the film was back tomorrow and she said yep and then that was that.

So there you have it, time to get the rope from the garden....


Nope, it's fault, and i know it. At least i managed to actually fucking ask her, but TOO fucking late, as expected, what do i do from here, well there's no question, it's rhetorical, i forget it as i clearly don't have a chance, damn, i don't really care in a way, as im more confident as it's gone on. But of course part of me is upset because it's basically a rejection.

Maybe it was the lousy hair cut, maybe i'll go in there in a week once it's cut and say something along the lines of "how's the boyfriend" - or not. I mean i know i don't have a chance now, and it's not like im going to keep going there reguarly, but at least it's in her head now even if there was a chance she didn't have a boyfriend, i dunno, but either way im not acting as the rebound guy.

SO, id like to hear your thoughts and opinions at the end of all of this, "i'll speak to you in here though", why would you say that? If it were me and i weren't interested id prob say, sorry or something, perhaps she doesn't have a bf and she was put on the spot and felt.. i dunno. Maybe she does have a boyfriend and was just being nice. - That's what i think.

Either way it's over.. What didn't start, LOl!

[musculArgirl2]

Good job in asking for her number Martin!!!! I don't even care what her response was. I'm glad you had the chance to do it and now you know!! Even if she said no, it's still flattering to get asked for your number.


Now you will do better asking the next girl you like out and i'm sure the next time it will probably be much easier than the hassle you had trying to ask her out at the store. !!

I wouldn't read to much into what she meant by "i will speak to you in here." It sounds to me that she just liked talking to you and to me it's just a friendly comment.

I'm glad you got your chance and you took it! Maybe you didn't get what you wanted but you went for it and that's what counts!! Great job!

[Martin-Boy2]

Yeah you're right, thanks for the feedback, that's something positive, im just a bit annoyed, all that for nothing, it could of happened last week for all i know, i just took so long

Not sure if "gutted" is the word, but more dishearted, i think because i built up the courage to do so and was hoping for more, damn Maybe i jumped in too quick?

Guess it's too late for the "what ifs" anyway.

[fitoverforty]

Martin, I am really proud of you for stepping up and getting past your fear and taking the chance to talk to her. That is really the most important thing in this whole situation.

Nope, it's fault, and i know it

There was always the chance that she might have a boyfriend - since you never knew one way or the other, so don't let that make you feel like you were "too late" or you waited too long - she may have had this boyfriend all along. BUT, it is nice that you had a friendly conversation with her and you broke the ice.

Maybe it was the lousy hair cut, maybe i'll go in there in a week once it's cut and say something along the lines of "how's the boyfriend" -

Of course it was not your haircut! You gotta know that. But I like your idea of asking her "how's the boyfriend" at some point in the future. I wouldn't do it everytime you go in there, but every now and then wouldn't hurt, if you are still interested in her. But since now you have gotten past the first "hello's" with her, speaking to her in the future should come easier, and that's a good thing!
She's only 18, so I don't think just because she has a boyfriend means it's a forever thing , ya know?

she said "i'll talk to you in here though

I think she was sensing your discomfort and didn't want your feelings to be hurt, so she wanted to let you know she would like talking with you when ever you come in...who knows maybe now that she knows you are interested in her, that boyfriend might have something to worry about.

[Martin-Boy2]

Haha, FOF, thanks for the reply.

Thanks for the kind words, when i was walking down there i was feeling nervous in myself and i thought, it's another day im not going to be able to go through with it, but it got to the point when i was waiting around in there that i thought, you know what, im not going back home thinking next time, next time, it's now, and that's what made me do it. I was sick and tired of going home thinking i should of done this should of done that.

You're right, she may of had this boyfriend for years, may of happened yesterday, i just don't know, i could speak to her now if i wanted. I wouldn't feel any awkwardness or discomfort now that the ice had been broken. Even though she didn't give her number because she had a boyfriend, i don't feel like, i dunno, ashamed and that i have to hid away, it isn't a big deal, so it seems, although im affected in different ways. Maybe it seemed i was coming on to her that she didn't want to give out her number, rather than seeing me as a friend? I guess because that was the first time i spoke to her properly which makes me think perhaps i jumped in too quick.

About the, "how's the boyfriend", in 2 minds about this, don't want it to seem as though im being cocky or ignorant, but it's a way of talking about that side of things more than anything else, i dunno, but even if i did speak to her about it, it wouldn't be all the time, as that would give off the wrong signals. I'll have to drop the film back tomorrow which i haven't even watched, if she's in maybe a quick hello and that'll be that, no point moping around anymore. I am still interested in her, but it's a no im afraid, just the way it is. But yeah i do feel it'll be easier to talk to her, as she's not a complete stranger now lol. Been thinking about this a lot tonight, jeez.

Well this is the thing, maybe it was kind of her to say that as if to say something more positive along the lines of rejection - if that's the thing, which i don't think it entirely is, if she isn't available she isn't available. Just the mumbling and such makes me think a little she was nervous or shy, i dunno, too much to think about and it's probably me hoping more than anything. Id guess id like that, but you know, in a day or so no feelings will be there, and the interest will be lost, which is kinda why im dissapointed she wasn't up for giving out her number, but there you go, if someone approached you and asked, would you say no. Or would you turn them down with something else like, im in a relationship as an excuse - in other words she didn't like me anyway. Oh so what, doesn't matter right now as it's not going to happen - reality.

Fucking hell lol.

[Boss Man]

She might have said what she did as a rebuttle.

She might have a boyfriend for a long time, but then again maybe recent.

You can't give yourself grief because of what you think might have been the case.

Saying I'll talk to you in here, is because she works there, so she has to talk to people and in a working capacity, it doesn't imply something she doesn't want it to.

Now if the said boyfriend or someone who knew him, caught her talking to some guy on the corner of the street, it could mess things up for her and him, because he might get suspicious, or possibly not believe her, if she said she was just talking to another and it's acceptable, as long as it's just general talk, no flirting or come ons.

She won't ruin her chances as much if she talks to other males during work. It might risk her her job, if she is seen by superiors appearing to be getting too friendly and procrastinating over things she should be doing, like taking payments for example, but I doubt very much that would happen.

What she did is she's proven herself to be off limits anyway, whether the boyfriend is real or she was just using fakery so she could snub you, because you' might not be her kind of guy.

Move on, you've got your conclusion now, there is no sequel.

Now from the director of the critically acclaimed, The Stalker That Wasn't, comes the gripping sequel, Snubbed With Avengance.

Martin got snubbed by the rental shop girl, but he thought she was lying about an alledged boyfriend. Now he sets off to find the truth and prove he deserved that chance, but could he be putting his and her lives in danger?

Intense, says the Mail.

Brutally honest, says the Telegraph.

It's the Woman scorned scenario turned upside down, says the Times.

Snubbed With Avengance, coming to a cinema near you soon.

[musculArgirl2]

Now from the director of the critically acclaimed, The Stalker That Wasn't, comes the gripping sequel, Snubbed With Avengance.

Martin got snubbed by the rental shop girl, but he thought she was lying about an alledged boyfriend. Now he sets off to find the truth and prove he deserved that chance, but could he be putting his and her lives in danger?

Intense, says the Mail.

Brutally honest, says the Telegraph.

It's the Woman scorned scenario turned upside down, says the Times.

Snubbed With Avengance, coming to a cinema near you soon.

LOL

[MissJenaKay]

Wow. Well, it seems that I've been neglected your thread, Martin. I'm sorry, I haven't been meaning to. I'm not going to comment at length on the girl scenario, but I'm proud you did it, I woulld have given up a long time ago. Hell, I still have crushes on guys that I've known forever and I can't and probably will never work up the guts to tell them. Besides, I already know the response I'll get. But I'm proud of you darling. I hope that you can find another girl that is interested in you. Lots of love and support for you on here, dear. Best wishes.

[Martin-Boy2]

Thanks for the replies all,

BM - what do you mean by rebutte?

I guess the right answer is to move on, but what do i do, of course im not going to keep going down there for nothing, but i may still go in there from time to time to use the store, and speak to her, i feel that it'll be easier to talk to her now and at least easier for her to approach me as i started talking to her, but all in all it seems rather pointless?

Just a bit dissapointed ya know, and probably isn't worth looking into what she said or any bullshit like that as it was only brief anyway, but what can ya do.

[Martin-Boy2]

Fuming right now. Getting so fucking fed up of these useless doctors not helping. I have explained the situation over and OVER again they don't want to know, let's use knees as an example.

It's a problem with muscle/tendons, that attach to the back of knee, even if fucking know that. Ive had it for about 4 years, it's only getting worse, walking is affected, can't cycle, run, walk up stairs, any of that without pain. I have told them i have been to rheumatology in the past, phyisotherapy, the stretches physiotherapy gave me where useless. They didn't help. He has now given me an x-ray to do on both knees.

And im thinking what is the fucking point!? Nothing is going to show up, an MRI would be better, why would they waste money all the time with x-rays instead of referring me to a specialist to at least do a physical exam or some palpation. They haven't even bothered. Not to mention x-rays take a month to get results, i can't wait anymore, i'll end up training and seriously wrecking body when it's not fault. I have been so patient and they're just not helping at all. Im going to make yet another appointment right now for another doctor and im going to go round there as much as i have to until they see some bloody sense. They'll likely say, you're having x-rays so let's wait for that, no, let's not i haven't got time to waste anymore.

I don't think chiropractors are on the NHS, otherwise they'd probably be able to help, muscles are likely pulling on tendons or causing some abnormality. I went down to get the x-rays done, she said you have to book appointments, even though it was empty, i tried that but their cheap telephone number doesn't work.

So stressed right now, really had enough of this shit treatment. If i had money id go private, but as it is i have to pay out for a lot of expenses right now, including 2 holidays - including family, whether i wanted to go or not i should, otherwise it causes problems.

It's getting beyond a joke now and i just don't know what to do, i feel im better help myself, but nothing helps, im already doing a ton of soft tissue mobility flexibility work, but nothing helps, really fucking had enough of all this i tell you.