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[Martin-Boy2]

really hate living in this house and the people in it, soon as i can afford to move out which probably won't be soon, im out of here without looking back.

[MissJenaKay]

Okay, darling. Here's how I see it, you return the film, if she's in there and it's empty enough, go inside and mention that you have seen her working alot or something and then introduce yourself. You're a guy and you know more about how to handle talking to women than I do. Lol. I think you should just do it tomorrow.

As for the hating living with your family, I know how you feel, dear. You'll make it through these times. If you want to talk about it. I know what you're going through, at least I'm sure I do. I hope I can help, sweetheart.

[Boss Man]

Adding her online is a no-no.

You do that then talk to her it looks like you were just spying on here, stalking her or checking her out to make sure she was suitable to ask out.

She probably just smiled at you, because she was being polite and under NO circumstances, get someone else to go in there and act as a go between, to state your case or slip her notes.

I'm think your best option really is forget it. You are just tormenting yourself over her and you've got physical things in your life that are more of a priority right now. There will be others and plenty of time on your side.

Let's face it, what would be the chances of you and her still being together in 10 years and solid? Very little chance, because right now, you couldn't even offer her a bit of financial security, or the possibility of some sort of progress for the future, as you don't even know where your future's headed yet, as you've got no clear direction regards education or work.

I doubt you could afford to take her anywhere more than about once a month. She's working so she'd do most of the paying if she wasn't careful, which is not cool really and she'd have to make do with long walks and little films, restaurants or nightlife if you couldn't afford it.

The fact she might go with someone else, doesn't mean she'd never be available again, because she'd have to hook up with someone that could offer her life-long commitment, otherwise they'd be highly likely to fizzle out in about 3 years or less, so you might have another chance then.

Right now you're causing yourself too much grief and it's probably better to forget it.

[MissJenaKay]

I mean no offense at all, Boss, but I don't know if you are looking at this the same way Martin is. He never said that he was looking for THE ONE in her, he just wanted to get to know her and see if they get on. So why are you discouraging him so heavily??

Also, I don't know why dates have to cost money. I know many girls (including myself) would rather have a free, but thoughtful, date. I'm not really talking from experience because I've never really been on a date, but. . . Yeah. You know what, I'm going to shut up, I'm making myself look like a fool.

[Martin-Boy2]

You're not looking like a fool at all Jena and i appreciate the words and input you have as it's nice to talk to a girl about the matter and seeing what she thinks, rather than just asking boys.

You are putting me off a bit Boss lol, but that's maybe because im hoping for too much, i mean, the things you stated are true, yes, but im not exactly asking her to marry me, i don't even know her yet, i could end up not liking her for all i know.

I don't think im tormenting myself, i mean im not as bothered about it now as i may of seemed a week or so ago, as i expected, as time goes on i generally care less, so even if it's a phase, it's a phase for a reason i feel. With that said, i do have prioritys right now that need to be taken care of, but i don't want to think, "just leave it until im sorted" which could be months, and then go back there to find she doesn't work there or has started a relationship with someone else.

To be honest i haven't even thought about 10 years time, because it's not any time soon, and i don't know if id even get with her for that matter yet, although your words after are strong and forceful, they are a reality, and i can't hide from that, i do need to get myself sorted but im pretty lost at the moment.

I wouldn't want her to pay for things and id feel guilty, so i doubt id let her, but where that would lead things who knows.

Im not looking for THE ONE in her at all, i haven't even considered that, she could have a lousy personality for liking if i got to know her, who knows? Money isn't everything but id have to be able to provide for her if it was anything long term, so id have to make a decision with life pretty rapidly.

Thanks both of you for the words and thoughts, it's nice to talk about it rather than think about it to myself, cheers

[MissJenaKay]

Glad to help, babe. I'm by no means socially experienced, but I'm more than willing to try an help you when I can.

[Martin-Boy2]

No problem, you've been really helpful to me.

The other thing is even if i were to get with her, and it came to taking her out and all, i think if i really wanted i could get a job, but with the aches and pains it does put me off for now, but yeah lol.

[Martin-Boy2]

Rack Pull 115kg 4x5
Dumbbell row 22kg 4x10 - last few reps on left side were kinda cheated.
Dip Shrug 3x12
Incline Shrugs 22kg x2 3x12
Feet elevated push ups 3x12
Cuban Press 3x12

[fitoverforty]

the confidence IS there, im sure id speak to her alright, it's getting the CHANCE to.

I hope you don't mind if I chime in here Martin. I've been following along with this and have been a silent cheerleader for you.
One thing you may have to consider is now that you have the confidence you may have the create the chance, instead of waiting for the perfect scenerio - there may never be the perfect time, so you may have to make it happen. I believe she must be a shy person, but since she smiles at you and does get involved with helping you then at least she seems like she would welcome a conversation with you.
I am assuming you know her name since you mentioned adding her online? I do agree with Boss on the online thing, I would introduce yourself to her first in person, say hello, go through the basics...then see if you and her want to do the "online" thing. Why not ask for her if you don't see her, when you go in...something like "Is (her name) working today?" Or if you see her in the back ask if you can speak to her. I know that is a kinda big step, but it will open the door for you, and you can find out if she is into you, or if she already has a boyfriend, or if you feel comfortable with asking for her phone number or whatever.
I know you have alot going on now too with some health concerns you have, but like you said, you aren't exactly asking for her to marry you, you just want to meet her and see if you like each other - I don't see anything wrong with that, but that's just opinion - I'm not exactly involved in the dating world anymore...lol, and I'm a little (okay...Alot) older than you, I hope you don't mind me adding 2 cents worth.
Good luck Martin, with whatever you decide...but if you do talk to her - please let us know...I am sure there are alot of silent cheerleaders on here for you who wish you all the best.

[Martin-Boy2]

Hey there, of course i don't mind, the more opinions and views i have the better! Thanks for your input

You sound right, maybe i have to put myself out there that little bit further if i can't keep getting the chance, because one day i would of had the chance and i wouldn't of been around or in the store and eventually she'll end up with someone who takes the chance, if she hasn't already.

Yeah i know her name, they all have tags with their names on and Ive heard her get called before a few times.

The thing with asking for her is, maybe it is a big step like you said, maybe i should try some small talk first before directly asking for her as im still kinda a stranger to her. Maybe if im returning an item or buying an item and i get the chance to speak to her i can cut in some small talk, get to know her a bit, and then start taking the bigger steps? Maybe i just am shying away from the right thing lol.

I will definitely keep you all updated, and thanks again for the input, appreciate it

[Martin-Boy2]

Ughh, kinda getting fed up with this, whine #47

Went down to the store to return the film, made myself look presentable, walked in, kinda busy, no sight of her. I waited around 5-10mins for it to die down a bit, but still no sign, just 2 guys serving at the tils, after some time i just decided to return the film, she either wasn't working or was out the back or on a break.

The thing is, the store is normally busier at night, she normally works later. But im just getting bored of this same crud. Going there for the chance she might be there and the chance to speak to her, it's just not working out and im starting to lose faith. Im quite im-patient as it is, but i really am losing patience with this, and im starting to believe i really do have these two options;

1) Turn the shoulder and look away, forget about it all - Not really what i want to do, but the longer it goes on the more plea sable it's starting to look.

2) Add her online - I know FOF and BM don't really agree with it, and to an extent i agree with you, i mean nothing beats the old fashioned talking in person compared to a screen, but it's better than nothing at all, in the sense it's a chance. A few of friends have done alright out of it, it's not really thing, but who knows, i could add her and she could accept hoping for it, or she could not accept thinking im just another guy trying to claim her.

You know i would like to talk to her in person i really would, and given the chance, i would force myself too, but with everyone else around i just get self concious, i don't know why, cause deep down i really don't care what these people think, but it stops me for some reason.

Ahh, same shit different day. Don't i deserve a chance?

[Boss Man]

I mean no offense at all, Boss, but I don't know if you are looking at this the same way Martin is. He never said that he was looking for THE ONE in her, he just wanted to get to know her and see if they get on. So why are you discouraging him so heavily??

Also, I don't know why dates have to cost money. I know many girls (including myself) would rather have a free, but thoughtful, date. I'm not really talking from experience because I've never really been on a date, but. . . Yeah. You know what, I'm going to shut up, I'm making myself look like a fool.

Jena you don't look like a fool .

I'm not referring to her as the ONE, but Martin has been discussing her recently in a way that makes it look as if this encounter means everything, as if it might have been "love at first sight" and mustn't be a passed up on opportunity.

He just looked like he was placing a lot of emphasis on this hopeful encounter, as if it meant so much to have it.

As for the money thing, I'm not suggesting anyone spend loads of money, but how long could romantic walks and free to do things like that suffice two people? Every now and again, one or both people might want to do something that costs some money, so you've got to have some to start with.

I'm not discouraging him heavily , I suggested he either do it or don't do it, but don't continue to procrastinate much longer. I could see how the indecision appeared to be getting to him and felt it was doing him no good, so if rejecting the notion of talking to her, serves him better from an emotional wellbeing standpoint, it would seem to be the best way, because he's already got a lot of physical issues on his plate right now, but I've never said just don't do it. or anything like that.

It's his decision, but this has now taken up substantial amounts of his journalling time and rumbled on for a few weeks it would seem. Yes they might find themselves to be a peaches and cream type couple, if it ever got as far as one night out, but it seems as if the whole thing has started to consume him a little and affect him a little too much, though he's indicated he's les fussed about it than he was.

It's his decision and I wouldn't reject or baulk anything they might have, but if he posts here, then he will be exposed sometimes, to peoples honest interpretations of what he writes

[Martin-Boy2]

Hi guys, didn't get back to you lot yesterday as i was out for brothers 21st, went for some drinks and had a meal out, was a good day, not to mention grandad getting covered in champs thanks to bro spilling the drink over him

Ok, about the girl, just want to point out i do read every reply, even if it doesn't come across that way, so don't want to think im ignoring any of you. Im not sure what to do, pretty much as Ive just came back from the docs and will update that in a second, but maybe tomorrow or a bit later in the week i'll go down there and see how i feel, ultimately though, im starting to begin to think it's too much hassle, but maybe that's problem - the fact that i don't push myself enough, but i feel if i do catch her on her own, i will speak to her, until then, im not really letting it become a priority.

Ok medical problems;

Seems im low on iron, maybe need to eat some rich iron foods or even get some iron based supplements. platelits - i think that's the term was low, from the full blood count test. I was told that was low before, and that the plateletes ment it stops you getting blood clots and such, so will have to investigate that, she said it wasn't nothing to worry about and to re-take the test in a couple of weeks.

She said rheumatoid factor ment that i didn't have arthritis which i guess rules out AS? Which is great.

The cervical spine/neck x-ray isn't back as i expected, so can't do much on that for now.

She did a physical exam for sacroiliac joint, and she did say the pain was around there, she then agreed to refer me to physiotherapy to take a look, although im still waiting for an MRI which she said will cover hips and back, so that too should identify any problems.

I feel the knee issues are from the abductor tendons, maybe that'll show up on the MRI, not sure, but she said we'll do the MRI first, i asked to see if i could see someone specialized in orthopedics but she said she doesn't feel i have osteoarthritis or anything like that so if the MRI comes back well, she'll probably refer me to rhematology, although Ive been there in the past and they've looked at knees and they haven't found nothing, so not really counting on that much.

[Boss Man]

Best sources of Iron are Red Meat and Cereals, but many things have Iron.

Iron can be helpd to be used and stored by Copper, as long as you don't consume too much, as it then starts to work against Iron.

Copper is found in things like Cereals, Mushrooms, Beans, Shellfish, Green veggies etc.

Also Vit C boosts iron uptake as does Capsicum, so a Vit C supplement may help to boost Iron usage.

Also Caffeine can block Iron absorption, so avoid caffeinated drinks, because blocking absorption means you can't use any blocked Iron to make Erythrocytes, (Red Blood Cells) and that would potentially reduce the bodies ability to circulate Oxygen as much, as the Heamoglobin in Erythrocytes contains Oxygen.

Also Platelets do help regards blood clotting.

[Martin-Boy2]

Thanks for the information BM, the doc gave me some iron supplement tabs, so i'll use those and see how things go