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Well, I'm glad you enjoy reading, darling. c: Because when I get into something, I tend to write... a LOT. Haha. ^_^

As for the major thing. I'm an artist. I'm hoping that minor will help me to be more successful (animation) but I'm still not happy with skill level and no matter how much I practice, I see no improvement on it.

As for running, I hate it mainly because of chest. :lol: I'm "well-endowed" I guess would be the correct way to say it and because of this, even though I have both a bra AND sports bra on, I still end up with a sore chest after any sort of bouncing/jogging for any amount of time. :( Oh well. Besides, I find running to be very boring, I'd rather dance or do something that is more fun. (Although I can't dance. Lol.)

I hope the library can get the book for you. I know how you feel about buying books that you don't know if you'll even be interested in. For Introductory Japanese class this next quarter, the book is $300 (about £187) and I'm not even sure if Japanese is really a language I want to study (I had to choose between Japanese and Russian). It's very scary. I wish you the best on your book quest though. ^_^
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Seems the library said they have the book on order, will have to re-check with them within a few weeks.

Today;
Was planning on doing deadlifts, but knee felt weak and i went with gut instinct of leaving them out for today.

So..;
Chin Ups 3x10
Dips 3x12
DB Rear Delt row 3x10 20kg - Unilateral
DB Shrugs, 20kg x2 - 3x12
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just read the last 2 pages and your knee thing will get worse with running more than with sprinting...also deadlifts will help your knee and a 40kgs drop is ridiculous so from now on i want you to to do this:

your last go was 77.5 x 5 reps so next deadlift session work up to 80kgs for 3 reps on your second set....if you're feeling good then go for 82.5 on your 3rd and last set, if not do another set 80

next session you'll do 2.5kgs more than your previous session top set for the 2nd set and decide on the 3rd set once you get to it

session 1 / next session
set 1 - 72.5 - 75 x 3
set 2 - 80 x 3
set 3 - 82.5 x 3 if feeling good, 80 x 3 if your not

session 2
set 1 - 75 - 77.5 x 3
set 2 - 82.5 x 3
set 3 - 85 x 3 if feeling good, 82.5 if your not

and so on - make sense?? (yes i lowered the reps to 3)
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Yes Martin, 3 reps might look like a swine of a rep range, but it might help, so try not to wince for too long when you've read it :wink:.
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The thing is, where i was at 3x5 before for working sets of 115kg, it's quite a significant drop, and part of me thinks, if i could do that before, why can't i do it now? And that's what challenges me to try the way i had previously used. Will have to adjust the bar height so it's around 9 inches off ground and perhaps tape myself to check im clear to go.

I was thinking of using ramping sets when the weights get tricky and im unable to make progress, or an approach such as 5/3/1, i was previously using ramping sets for squats and OHP'S and that WAS working well.

Thanks for the suggestion though and i have taken note, and judging by how things go, i may or may not give it a try :lol:

Going to go for a run later, 5 laps this time, gradually increasing and going to pace myself better, will also try this program out for the next month;

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_art ... guy_calves" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not so much the WEDS and FRi days, but the calf specific work. May start it today, falls on a day with running too, but i don't think that there's going to be much risk of overtraining just from one day, it's just more convient to start it today and do a weights session tomorrow based off of compound lifts.
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Ok, just gave it a go, it's basically 4 sets of high rep heavy barbell calf raises, followed by a superset of;
B1) 1 leg db calf raise 3x8
B2) Lunge position calf raise 3x12
B3) 1 Legged seated toe rais 3x15 (Tibilias anterior)

The weight i used were;
Barbell - 50kg
And just 10kg for the dumbbell.

It's ment to be a 4 week program so just 4 sessions, although i think i'll keep today as just getting used to it and not count it, because the weight wasn't quite right, i guess i underestimated calves, i always believed them to be really weak.

So more weight will likely be needed next time, the only PROBLEM, i have and i would greatly appreciate ANYONE's important on this, is a problem ive had for a long time and has point me off doing calf raises.
Basically, it's the calf raise itself that's the problem, the toe raise part (dorsiflexion), wasn't as bad, but mostly the calf raises, and more so noticeable on the db calf raise doing them 1 legged as there's more ROM. Basically ankles just feel so fatiued so quick and start aching me and burning up. This is really a nuisance and i can't efficienty workout calves through it. only conclusion is that ankles are compensating for knees, as the problem seems to be behind knees, the calf raises are more worse, and that's where the heels raise up.

Ive noticed this even before right knee in particular got worse, i have worked on flexibility and mobility, but still no real improvement, so for some reason, i believe they are compensating for knees. I don't want to forget that it was because knees would jut ache and hurt before right knee couldn't fully extend, that's why i had the physio, i will say to her i want to try something differnet, the stretches are doing all to be frank, nd i don't want her to turn around and say, it takes time, it's been a good month or so already, and i aint going to get no where by not training.

Thoughts?

Thanks everyone, going for a slower run later, so at least m calves will get some beneficial work there, if they didn't get much through that session.



Tonights run;
3.4 miles in 29;11 mins.
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if anything your knee will compensate for your ankle (mobility)
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swanso5 wrote:if anything your knee will compensate for your ankle (mobility)
I thought it were the other way around, at least, since right knee has been hurting more than left lately, when im out walking or standing for a while, right ankle will tend to ache and hurt, more so than the left.

Not sure what else i can do other than work on ankle mobility, and i have been for a while now, i just hope that somewhere along the line these problems are linked and can be resolved with some small fixes, such a drag right now. The low back (or pelvis) issue, could be related to the knee, and hopefully they can both be resolved, and then once i know what's going on with shoulders, neck should be able to slide in there too.

Im just hoping for more than a 10min appointment on friday saying to continue to stretch and then come back in another 2 weeks, think im going to have to be a bit more firm as the stretches aren't helping and i would like to look at some other options.
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i'll try and make this brief

the ankle is meant to be a mobile joint (produce movement)

the knee is meant to be a stable joint (resist movement)

the hip is meant to be a mobile joint

the other joints in the body continue this trend as you go up the chain

now when a mobile joint loses its mobility, then the stable joint above or below it will become a mobile joint, as you need to get the mobility from somewhere

in your case your ankle and/or hip have lost their mobility and your knee is taking the brunt of it as its stuck in the middle

so continue with ankle mobility but also hip mobility with some adductor mobilisations and knee to knee stretches
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Ive been stretching hip flexors too and doing the squat stretch for abductors, no real change yet, but i guess i'll give it a bit longer, thanks for the briefing.

Todays workout;
Deadlift 80kg 3x5
Bench 52.5kg 2x10, 1x8 - This was mistake, i had left a 2.5kg plate on the right hand side, so i couldn't get the reps, im an idiot, i know :|
Barbell Row 62.5kg 3x5, 1x2, i was originally going for 5x5, but stopped on the 4th set as i felt it was too much as the weight was really heavy, may have to slightly adjust next time, got videos though;

2x10 16kg KB Swings warm up

Deadlifts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYYJ5H0KQLg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXBFYDUp6q8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2_XYXEN8p4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bench
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7ba6uZMfZ8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Barbell Row
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BwvJw5Vlvk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHks_pETsew" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmyr0ewDOKY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


I think form was good, but you guessed it, pelvis aches/pains even 2hr + after workout :cry:
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whats the source of your pelvic pain?
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swanso5 wrote:whats the source of your pelvic pain?
Im clueless. It just started occuring late october last year when i was working. I was on knees to paint an area close to ground level and i just started noticing it then really, i would notice after a few hours work lower back would ache, and i would hear, "you're just not used to it", but this is what i thought. Although ive been having it since, it doesn't feel like back, but the illium part of pelvis, so no real trauma, i just don't understand it, and that's why im wondering if it's all linked to one problem.
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sounds like overuse - most low back pain comes frequent long duration low load activities and painting as you described is one of them

does squatting and deadlifting hurt it? during? after? (you may have mentioned it but this thread is as long as the bible)
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swanso5 wrote:sounds like overuse - most low back pain comes frequent long duration low load activities and painting as you described is one of them

does squatting and deadlifting hurt it? during? after? (you may have mentioned it but this thread is as long as the bible)
Ha i know, umm, it doesn't hurt, but sometimes after yes. After the rows and deadlifts yesterday, it felt fatigued, it's been bothering me for so long now :cry:
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hunch is that you might need some spinal adjustments via a GOOD chiropractor and once you're all aligned then you need to stiffen up your core and glutes to hold your new pelvic alignment
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