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ughhhhhhhahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

This fucking insomnia i can't take it anymore its ruining me. About the 3rd night in a row of shit sleep, maybe had 3 hours last night if that, makes me feel like shit, how can i even go for a run or anything like that when i can't sleep. I was ment to go yesterday but i was tired, today i can barely function, going to try and get at least an hour or two now, if that disrupts sleep tonight, so be it, i need to at least get an hour or two now just so i can function.

How can i expect to push myself to maxes to make progress, with such low sleep, not to mention the lack of progress im wasting but not sleeping, i just don't get it, it seems to keep coming and going but it is really fucking me up.

I can't remember the last time i had an 8 hour nights sleep, without waking up at all.

Even most of the time i have 6-7 hours with awakenings during the night.


Going to buy a memory foam pillow later, i know it's not magic, but it might help me get comfortable, or at least help neck posture, evne if they are damn expensive and i don't really have the money for them, needs to be done im afraid.
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I give up, seriously, what's the point? When you've been trying to sleep for 1hr 15mins, it's obvious your not going to go off, even when im thsi fucking tired i still can't sleep, looks like the run is out for yet another day, fucking lousy life.
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Hello there, hun.

I lurk on your posts a lot. I know how you feel, I know that money isn't the goal, I know how frustrating it is to not feel like you're normal at our age (I believe we're close to the same). It sucks. I know how that works, I'm painfully shy (so it's hard to meet people at all), I hate drinking, I hate drugs, I hate going out, I can't dance, I'm an artist and a gamer (not exactly what people want in a friend since I'd rather sit at home and draw or play a video game than go out.) I've never been to a club, I don't think I ever want to. It sucks, I know, but you need to figure yourself out.

If you want to figure out what to do with your life, then look at what you enjoy, look at what you could do every day of your life and not get sick of it. Then look into some sort of career in that. I know how frustrating it is to figure what to do with your life. All life, since I'm "brilliant" as grandmother and parents tell me, I've been expected to be a doctor, or a vet, or a scientist or something like that. Boy were they surprised when I said I want to be an artist, that I want to possibly do animation, and with luck, get into the video game industry. I've been told on many occasions, not by family but by a friend that's doing a sociology degree (and lives in England) that I'm "Wasting intelligence on an art degree". I know how much it sucks to be told things you don't like to hear.

I know how much it sucks to feel like there's no one that you can hang out with or spend time around. I know that. I have no friends, really, there's no one I can go and see a film with or just relax or anything like that.

You say what you want is "to find the right girl, and get some real love, be appreciated and respected" you have to earn it, dear. People may say you're good looking, but if you have no personality, we women get bored. Very easily. If you want to find the right girl, try just making girl friends, then you can try getting a girlfriend. advice might not work for you, I know it doesn't work for me. Because I only get along with guys (probably because I'm a huge tomboy). As lame as this analogy is going to sound, relationships are like an art career, to be successful, you have to have connections, you have to put yourself out there, you have to do the leg work. If you're good-looking, it makes it a little easier, so chalk one up for you, dear. I know I'm giving all this advice when I fail at this topic myself. I can only open up to people online (creepy, eh?), I refuse to talk to people in real life. But I know that this kind of stuff works, I've seen it work for friends. I give good advice, I'm just terrible at following own advice. Haha.

By the way, a great way to shake things up, go away to school. I know you don't know what you want to do, but regardless of what you want to do, there will be general education credits that you need to take care of, and while you do that, you can take electives, which can let you experiment in your interests. I decided that I wanted to go away from home for school, and boy did I. University is a 12 hour drive, 700 miles away from home. But I love it, it's new, it's fresh, it allowed me to try new things, meet new people and start a new life sort of. I've always been a huge advocate for school, so I may be pushing it a little. But even if you just travel, I think it might do wonders for you, darling.

I also know how much insomnia sucks. You may want to see a doctor about it, I had to, because I spent two years of life sleeping about between nothing at all and about 2 hours every night. It sucked, it gave me so much time alone with thoughts, and if you get to know me, you'll know that used to be a very very bad thing. But, regardless, I asked for help about it, I got on some medication for a while, it kicked body back to sleeping, though I was drowsy all day too, and so I went off the meds and now I sleep pretty well. In fact, while I was at school, roommate would get annoyed with me because every night, right before I went to bed, I'd write a little "Goodnight" or something on Facebook, then, she says three minutes later and I'd be asleep. But anyway. You should see a doctor about it.

I also think that it may be beneficial for you to see a therapist. I don't know if it's a guy thing or an English thing (Since the only people I've known to have huge issues with this kind of thing are guys or English guys) but you people seem to have a huge aversion to it. Something about having to list it on your résumé or something. (I tune it out a little at that point, because I understand that I'm not going to get through.)

I believe I've rambled enough here, darling. If I've crossed lines, let me know, because that was not intention, but I hate to hear people say that they hate their lives, I know how much it sucks, I know how much it hurts, and I hate to see people hurting even in the slightest, let alone as much as I know is possible. Regardless, I wish you the best, sweetie, and I really do mean that. I wish everyone the best. I may be a bleeding heart, but I'd rather be too nice, than chance being mean.

Lots of care and support, dear. You're extremely lucky to have the people here, they're great people. I would know, Boss has helped me through so many problems and I can never thank him enough.

If you want to talk, feel free to pm me.

Jena ♥

P.S. I have a horrible pet name habit, if it bugs you, let me know and I'll try not to call you by pet names. Okay? I also apologise for writing so much. Best Wishes.
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Don't apologise Jena :), one good word or 1,000 good words are all worth it to someone. Don't ever apologise for wanting to use your heart on others :).
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Boss Man wrote:Don't apologise Jena :), one good word or 1,000 good words are all worth it to someone. Don't ever apologise for wanting to use your heart on others :).
Haha. Okay, Boss. I'll still feel a smidge bad if I stepped on toes.
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Hey everyone, just thought id update, seen the physio, seeing her again in 2 weeks, dragg.

Nonetheless, here's what im up to, she's just given me an elastic band for shoulders, grip each end, have elbows pinned at sides with arms at 90 degrees and then rotate outwards, i guess sort of similar to db external rotations, i don't have much endurance here and i get fatigued quickly, spose it won't hurt to give it a go but It's things that i feel ive already tried in the past.

Knees - still, doing the stretches, she said she feels it's a bit looser than last time as the stretches are getting slightly easier, but it's still a small improvement so will continue with these. I said ive been playing tennis lately and all, keeping active, walking etc, which you know she said was basically ok.

I said about running and she said she don't think it's a good idea as it could agrivate knee, i guess im just hoping to hear, "you can run", and im probably still going to either way as i just can't sit about no more. I don't get any pain during running and it feels great to do, not to mention im starting to get good at it and set new records for myself. Sprinting and HIIT, i can understand, as it can be forceful on the knee at best of times, that im going to have to avoid, but long distance running is fine to me, so i guess im just going to continue it either way, whether that seems stubborn or not, i can't do no quad dominant work, at least this way the quads are involved a bit, and i have some hope of keeping some mass. Also, with tennis, not sure if she thought of it or not, some short sprints or required anyway, so if that's fine, i don't see the big picture.

Jen - Not ignoring you, will read your post and respond, just in a hurry here and thought id update this quickly for now, thanks
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22/06/11

5min Skipping warm up
Pendlay Row 4x8 50kg
OHP 5X5 40kg

2.72 Miles in 20:06mins.

24/06/11

Deadlift 75kg 3x5
Bench Press 50kg 4x10
Pendlay Row 60kg 5x5
WG Upright Row 20kg 3x10

Have to go now for the weekend, will be back after.
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Running might feel good, but it might also aggrevate the Knee issue as eluded to by the Physio.

Waiting for an all clear is better than jumping the gun and the fact you don't feel anything doesn't mean something couldn't happen. You'd only need to get a slight misalignment of the knee during a stride, or a slight accidental buckling and you could make something worse.

Swimming might be one avenue to look at, as it's not very impacting on the joints.
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No problem, take your time, darling.
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Long post Jen, but thanks, i read it all.

Alot of what you wrote makes sense, and come to think of it, Ive been looking to get into Kinesiology as late. At least, when i was looking for a certain book on a site, i came across a book called,

Kinesiology: The muscoskeletal system and muscle function. 700 pages, quite the read, but for some reason i wanted to read it. Pretty pricey though, so i went to the library and registered, but they don't have it, although they've reserved some kinesiology ones that they have, at least i can read it and see if it interest me.

I know things are same old same old nowdays, and can be boring, but gotta see it through, got to be a light at the end of this LONG tunnel. Thank you for the kind words.

@Boss Man, that may be so, but i just can't help myself, call it ignorance or stupidity, but im only running 2-3 times a week, and it's actually easier to stretch hamstring tendon afterwards, due to having more blood circulated there, similar i suppose, to getting out of a hot shower. Ive bough myself a head sweatband for this evening as im planning to go for a run, currently best is around 2.72 miles i think, in around 20:06 mins, not bad, but im not spriinting of course, and even if it's just maintenance, that's fine by me for now.

I would swim if i could, but technique lets me down too much, too often, i want to breastroke effectively if im going to get some lengths, it's more or likely 90% technique, and 10% being down to strength, but i dunno, never been comfortable with swimming, especially when i breastroke, i crane neck out of the water so i can breathe, which isn't good for neck issue, although it's getting better, along with the knee stretches becoming easier, im aware this was the wrong way to breathe during swimming.

Also i have booked a doctors appointment to get a second opinion on knee issue, see what he says, hes helped me out in the past and was the one that recommended me to get lipsuction when i was 15.

Also had a HUGE fight with both of brothers the weekend, still not talking to them, although the matter will probably resolve itself sometime in the not so near future im guessing.
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Seems i have out-done myself again, didn't think it was do-able, but i have improved again, by 20 seconds overall!

Now have done 2.72 miles in 19:46mins, averaging at 8.2 mph

Think im going to struggle next time, next run i'll try to beat that too, if i can't, then perhaps i'll try out 5 laps and see how that goes, gradually improving.

Oh yeah, probably a long shot, BM, i figured if anyone will know it'll be you, what's the latest on Cassie? Heard from her? Or is she still not around, it's been a while since she's been active ive noticed.
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I apologise again for writing so much, but I wrote what I felt I needed to. I'm glad you're finding things that are interesting to you. Huge congratulations to you on your running improvement. The idea of even being able to run 2.72 miles is amazing to me. Haha.

In the news of interests, I'm beginning to doubt own decision of major, not because I'm unsure of whether I'm interested or not, but I'm doubting skill and I'm doubting that I'll be able to make it. Oh well. Haha.

Congratulations again on your running. :)
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Hey man, your body your rules. I can't tell you in this situation, I'm 100% right or you're 100% wrong, it could be the other way round. If you feel your problem is not an impedence to running, then run, but just don't over pace yourself or run for too long. If you have a tolerance level, always try to work within it and If you ever feel anything untoward, slow down or alternatively stop, walk the rest of the way, then rest up for a few days.

Good luck at the Docs.
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Jena - No need to apologize, i love reading :lol:

Running is good, and i never understood why people loved it so much seeing how physically demanding it is, but with most things, the more you do something, the easier/better you become at it.

See the major through if you can, not sure how long you've been at it or what your current situation is, Im trying to get hold of some kinesiology books myself as that seems to interest me, even though ive read no books on it! The book im after which seems to be very informative, is £45 though, so quite a lot for a book that may or may not be of interest, will ask library again to see if they can order it, but seeing as i'll be the only one requesting it, i highly doubt it :cry:

- BM - Thanks, i just thought id go for it myself, it may be coming across as ignorant or stupid, but being limited as it is at the moment, im just trying to do what i can, can't make progress sitting around :wink:

29/06/11
Ok, did a weights session today, would greatly appreciate any feedback on some of the nagging problems i had, or anything i write about them as im always open to advise/opinions/suggestions,

Deadlift 77.5kg 3x5 - Went well, although im debating if im using the right height. The bar is in the mid shin height like it's supposed to be, but that means it's raised around 10-11.5 inches off the ground, which to me does seem pretty high, strength seems to have gone down a lot in these, some low back/hip discomfort, but hoping these will soon fade out, i remember in march reaching 115kg 3x5, nearly a 40kg drop :(

Bench Press - 62kg 5x5, getting better, although left wrist seemed to hyperextend and cause some mild discomfort during reps, conclusion is that it's flexibility related, seeing as im right handed, most day to day activities would be more used by right hand i guess.

Bent over barbell row/Pendlay style - 52.5kg 4x8 - Again, these going well, a little cautious about low back as i try to keep myself 90 degrees to the floor to involve the lats as much as possible, low back feels quited stressed out during the warm ups, yet come the work sets it feels better, im guessing where ive never been much of a rower this way, that hopefully the problem will resolve itself.

Overhead Press 30kg 1x10, 31kg 2x10 - Forgot the plates for 1st set :lol:
Again, discomforting pain during the higher reps, mostly from collarbone/front delt, i find it very odd that the one session i had of pressing in a gym with olympic bars and weights, caused no discomfort, yet since then using a standard bar at home has caused pain.

Ive asked some experience lifters and they said the bars shouldn't have much difference and to suggest an olympic bar, which is a lot of money and something i don't have at the moment, besides i have a load of weight with standard bar at the moment anyway, i guess one of the contributors is that i find it hard to keep the bar over wrist, and instead it ends up back more in fingers.

Also tried some calf raises, but knee didn't agree with locking itself during them, so stopped.

ON A POSITIVE Note, managed to sleep through the whole night, got a good amount of sleep, perhaps 9 hours or so, and i don't remember waking up, feels good to know i slept well, the factor could of been reading a book 30mins prior to bed, either way it's good :P
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Todays run started to go down hill.

48Hrs since last one, finishing time was 13 secs slower, which isn't terrible, but i knew overall performance sucked and i really struggled big time with this one, perhaps i'll leave it til sunday or maybe start of next week until i go again, and perhaps pace myself better and add an extra lap.

I also noticed stretching the right leg harder afterwards, so in a sense it's better to run in the evening.

Couldn't help but fuel post workout nutrition with a couple of jaffa cakes :twisted:
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