I was thinking of starting out kinda light, perhaps not as long, perhaps 2minutes high intensity, then 2 mins low intensity or walking, for 10-20mins?
If i feel the need for more cardio could try the speed rope i bought yesterday.
Also i tried sleeping in the foetus position last night, i did manage to get to sleep, but it's so annoying, i must of woke up/got woke up about 4-5 times throughout the night, had to share a room, but i can't remember the last time i slept through the whole night, im not a deep sleeper and it's times like this that id prefer to be. I can't help but believe this will and does affect gains, along with me feeling tired all the time + combined with hayfever.
Fat Around Button Area?
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Martin-Boy2
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Re: Fat Around Button Area?
Hey i have a question, i just tried skipping for the first time in ages, just 6minutes, and sternum and shoulders were giving in before cardiovascular ability, which frustrates me, it's a speed rope, so perhaps slightly harder, but still, i was finding that i was limited to what i could do because of aches/pains/fatigue rather than cardio, what im using it for, any suggestions as to why this is happening and possible approaches i can do? The sternum pain was sharp and i didn't want to continue through it, shoulders just feel fatigued and tired.
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Not much you could do until your issues got solved I would surmise, other than perhaps skip with a basic movement and don't go too fast.
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Yeah will try it again soon within the next few days but may have to just lay off of it for now.
Just see the physio, for what was supposed to be a 1hour appointment, although i came back disappointed.
It was about neck and knees, well cervical spine, she said posture was terrible, in a sense that head was too far tilted forward, and to advise to pretty much tuck chin inwards and relax, don't think it'll help much as there's not much i can do in terms of a stretch or nothing. Anyway, she kept saying to relax and breathe through abs, it seems i still lack the ability to do this without any conscious thought, but hopefully with practice it'll become easier, like when i go to sleep and relax, it's a lot easier to focus on breathing through them that way.
Now, about the knees, well, not good, she made me do a bit of walking and said that steps are quite small and could be slightly bigger, and ( fault for doing this), she said hamstrings were a little tight, i noticed this after i did SLDL the other day. And that, that was affecting the knee, and that she feels it's more muscular, but i can almost tell for sure it's to do with the ligaments in either knee, i said to her that they were both weak and she advised to do daily stretching (hamstring type, where you put your foot on a chair and lean forward), i do this one occasionally anyway. And she advised to lean against a wall with legs quite far in front, and squat down and up, because she got me to bend one knee and squat down which i had bad control over. So to do them twice a day for 20 reps. She said that when squatting feet need to be facing forward, sort of like a partial squat, but ive been taught and learnt to squat, which to me is properly as it hasn't caused any pain, the pain has always been there. And she said to do some exercises for back such as lifting 5kg but so back is rounded, it's like everything which i know is right and will benefit me, she is teaching me to do incorrectly, 5kg won't ruin back, in comparison with say 100kg, but it's that, i don't want to get used to using incorrect technique, as selfish and silly as i may sound, i really don't see how it's going to help. However, i will still give it a go.
I was out of there in just over 30mins, when i had booked an hours appointment, but i can't say, no im sitting here for another 20mins, because that's not up to me to do, i just feel this is taking longer than necessary and that today was practically a waste of time, as ungrateful as that may possibly sound.
Been reading up on this forward head posture, and it seems it's linked to upper back and shoulder pain, so hopefully solving this will those issues, i don't feel head is that far forward though, i did the wall test and all just briefly and no real discomfort there, but i didn't hold it for x amount of minutes or anything if i was supposed to? Only thing i know to improve it after reading an article online is a pec and trap stretch? I have been sleeping with 1 pillow as late and have lowered computer chair to look at the screen so i guess that all helps but doesn't necessarily completely solve the issue.
Done pull ups and some dips, reached 17 pull ups now, 3x11 bodyweight dips, although again having some nasty boney pain in shoulders afterwards, guess i'll have to bring up yet another problem with the physio!
Just see the physio, for what was supposed to be a 1hour appointment, although i came back disappointed.
It was about neck and knees, well cervical spine, she said posture was terrible, in a sense that head was too far tilted forward, and to advise to pretty much tuck chin inwards and relax, don't think it'll help much as there's not much i can do in terms of a stretch or nothing. Anyway, she kept saying to relax and breathe through abs, it seems i still lack the ability to do this without any conscious thought, but hopefully with practice it'll become easier, like when i go to sleep and relax, it's a lot easier to focus on breathing through them that way.
Now, about the knees, well, not good, she made me do a bit of walking and said that steps are quite small and could be slightly bigger, and ( fault for doing this), she said hamstrings were a little tight, i noticed this after i did SLDL the other day. And that, that was affecting the knee, and that she feels it's more muscular, but i can almost tell for sure it's to do with the ligaments in either knee, i said to her that they were both weak and she advised to do daily stretching (hamstring type, where you put your foot on a chair and lean forward), i do this one occasionally anyway. And she advised to lean against a wall with legs quite far in front, and squat down and up, because she got me to bend one knee and squat down which i had bad control over. So to do them twice a day for 20 reps. She said that when squatting feet need to be facing forward, sort of like a partial squat, but ive been taught and learnt to squat, which to me is properly as it hasn't caused any pain, the pain has always been there. And she said to do some exercises for back such as lifting 5kg but so back is rounded, it's like everything which i know is right and will benefit me, she is teaching me to do incorrectly, 5kg won't ruin back, in comparison with say 100kg, but it's that, i don't want to get used to using incorrect technique, as selfish and silly as i may sound, i really don't see how it's going to help. However, i will still give it a go.
I was out of there in just over 30mins, when i had booked an hours appointment, but i can't say, no im sitting here for another 20mins, because that's not up to me to do, i just feel this is taking longer than necessary and that today was practically a waste of time, as ungrateful as that may possibly sound.
Been reading up on this forward head posture, and it seems it's linked to upper back and shoulder pain, so hopefully solving this will those issues, i don't feel head is that far forward though, i did the wall test and all just briefly and no real discomfort there, but i didn't hold it for x amount of minutes or anything if i was supposed to? Only thing i know to improve it after reading an article online is a pec and trap stretch? I have been sleeping with 1 pillow as late and have lowered computer chair to look at the screen so i guess that all helps but doesn't necessarily completely solve the issue.
Done pull ups and some dips, reached 17 pull ups now, 3x11 bodyweight dips, although again having some nasty boney pain in shoulders afterwards, guess i'll have to bring up yet another problem with the physio!
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Re: Fat Around Button Area?
Ok today was different. By the way, yesterday didn't have much lower back pain at all, only in the evening, quite boney/jointey, then laid on back starting breathing through abs, and it was gone within 15minutes. So that's a good sign. However neck has been hurting all day yesterday, which was expected since it was made aware by the physio and what not, but today however it has been really bad still. I guess i must of had a foreward head slightly, but to me it's not that noticeably, i don't have a computer desk where legs go underneath, it's rather ontop of a draw cuboard. Nonetheless, neck pain has been bad today, i guess it has to get worse before it's better, but it's not as severe as i believe it is, in terms of how far forward neck is, but yeah some really uncomfortable pain so far today, wish there's a way to relieve the pain as painkillers don't do nothing. Put a bed pillow behind chair on the pc, sleep with 1 pillow, lowered seat when using pc, all helps i spose, every little helps 
Still, it's not obvious as no family members have noticed it before or nothing, and plenty of older people sit down all day and don't have this problem, only things i can think of is when i was in early teens (14-16), i used to play pc games A LOT. For continous hours, possibly leaning forward over them years has created this problem which has eventually arisen.
I guess shoulders could be linked to foreward head, and lower back, so 3 all linked in that sense.
Boss Man, im sure you're aware of todays weather, however i decided to carry on, went over the park to do pull ups, wore a jumper which was perhaps not the greatest ideas as i was probably a bit heavier due to how drenched in water i was, so only managed just 13 out of 17 i achieved yesterday, but doesn't matter, tomorrows a new day.
Did some running, as fast as i could run comfortably without pain, went fairly well, ran for around 6min 45 secs, had 2mins rest, ran again for about 2mins 45 secs, rested around 3mins, and ran again, added up to around 18mins total running, not bad, sure did kill me though, as i haven't ran in months, plus the bad weather.
Just doing what i can, and trying to maintain some of what i have, be amazing once it's all sorted i tell ya.
Still, it's not obvious as no family members have noticed it before or nothing, and plenty of older people sit down all day and don't have this problem, only things i can think of is when i was in early teens (14-16), i used to play pc games A LOT. For continous hours, possibly leaning forward over them years has created this problem which has eventually arisen.
I guess shoulders could be linked to foreward head, and lower back, so 3 all linked in that sense.
Boss Man, im sure you're aware of todays weather, however i decided to carry on, went over the park to do pull ups, wore a jumper which was perhaps not the greatest ideas as i was probably a bit heavier due to how drenched in water i was, so only managed just 13 out of 17 i achieved yesterday, but doesn't matter, tomorrows a new day.
Did some running, as fast as i could run comfortably without pain, went fairly well, ran for around 6min 45 secs, had 2mins rest, ran again for about 2mins 45 secs, rested around 3mins, and ran again, added up to around 18mins total running, not bad, sure did kill me though, as i haven't ran in months, plus the bad weather.
Just doing what i can, and trying to maintain some of what i have, be amazing once it's all sorted i tell ya.
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Re: Fat Around Button Area?
Not sure if it helps with any problems, but i notice when i try to do shrugs, or roll the shoulders forward/backwards in a similar type of motion, i feel i have a lack of mobility.
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Today:
17 Hammer grip pull ups, 4x8 OHP 30kg, 3x12 BB Shrugs, 30kg, kept the weight the same as couldn't be bothered to change the weight to be honest with you, could of used more weight for shrugs but lack of mobility i feel around that area. Once i have the shoulders, and knees sorted so they don't cause pain, along with correct neck posture and pain free, i'll be pretty much set to go and on way to accomplishing goals, i feel however it's going to be a long time til im 100% functional, perhaps even towards the end of this year which makes me consider private therapy, but that'll cost a lot, plus in a way ive waited this long, might aswell see it through. shoulder blades were hurting a bit so far today, along with collar bone when i was doing some shoulder presses, on the last 2 sets i started to feel real discomfort and the boney pain took over.
May look into one of those "foam rollers", as i hear they can be useful, especially for stiff upper backs and all, which mine was horribly stiff after the OHP'es.
17 Hammer grip pull ups, 4x8 OHP 30kg, 3x12 BB Shrugs, 30kg, kept the weight the same as couldn't be bothered to change the weight to be honest with you, could of used more weight for shrugs but lack of mobility i feel around that area. Once i have the shoulders, and knees sorted so they don't cause pain, along with correct neck posture and pain free, i'll be pretty much set to go and on way to accomplishing goals, i feel however it's going to be a long time til im 100% functional, perhaps even towards the end of this year which makes me consider private therapy, but that'll cost a lot, plus in a way ive waited this long, might aswell see it through. shoulder blades were hurting a bit so far today, along with collar bone when i was doing some shoulder presses, on the last 2 sets i started to feel real discomfort and the boney pain took over.
May look into one of those "foam rollers", as i hear they can be useful, especially for stiff upper backs and all, which mine was horribly stiff after the OHP'es.
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Re: Fat Around Button Area?
Went to see the Hangover part 2, not so good in opinion, and seems most of the reviews aren't that great, still, worth a watch.
Ok, need some feedback here (if possible), im quite syked to buying a foam roller, as i feel one of these may be able to help me greatly, however, aren't the blue ones the most difficult? Because i have found a blue one, but don't want to jump into one of these in the deep end, ive heard only great things about them, how's this one look:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/66FIT-EPP-FOAM- ... 76&sr=1-18" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Little pricey for a "roller", but it's advised to not invest in a cheap one which won't last, any tips on choosing a good one which isn't overly priced?
Ok, need some feedback here (if possible), im quite syked to buying a foam roller, as i feel one of these may be able to help me greatly, however, aren't the blue ones the most difficult? Because i have found a blue one, but don't want to jump into one of these in the deep end, ive heard only great things about them, how's this one look:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/66FIT-EPP-FOAM- ... 76&sr=1-18" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Little pricey for a "roller", but it's advised to not invest in a cheap one which won't last, any tips on choosing a good one which isn't overly priced?
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Sorry, but I've never tried to buy one.
What I would say is check a few internet sources and maybe phone around a few relevant shops.
What I would say is check a few internet sources and maybe phone around a few relevant shops.
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Think this is the one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004 ... 1Q04W1I75D" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
However, im tempted to pay an extra £10 for the longer one, although ive been told the 45cm one is fine and that i don't really need one which is nearly a meter in length.
I decided to go for the one above, and look forward to trying it out. Today:
17 Hammer grip pull ups
20min run/jog, this was really hard for me, going to go into details here.
Ive never been much of a runner/jogger/sprinter, nothing like that, but hope to get into it more now. Even before when i could workout fully i wasn't much of a runner, just occasionally, the 20mins was really hard for me, it seems as though i have a bit of oxygen debt whilst running, sort of wheezy and although i need to take a breathe? If that makes sense, of course it's physical and some may say "man up", but i think it's possibly a bit more than just manning up. I sat down after just the 20mins and caught breathe, went into a push up position to work on ankle mobility and head felt like it was going to explode, it was so warm and i had such a big blood rush that it was a strange feeling, i looked down and noticed arms were covered in blood cells too, must of raised blood pressure a bit.
I also had some shoulder achy/discomfort during the running, is frustrating, sort of seems like body doesn't want me to do anything, but after todays experience i noticed i am really weak at running and have a poor cardiovascular system, so if i try and run more often it should help that, just got to make do with what i can for now
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004 ... 1Q04W1I75D" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
However, im tempted to pay an extra £10 for the longer one, although ive been told the 45cm one is fine and that i don't really need one which is nearly a meter in length.
I decided to go for the one above, and look forward to trying it out. Today:
17 Hammer grip pull ups
20min run/jog, this was really hard for me, going to go into details here.
Ive never been much of a runner/jogger/sprinter, nothing like that, but hope to get into it more now. Even before when i could workout fully i wasn't much of a runner, just occasionally, the 20mins was really hard for me, it seems as though i have a bit of oxygen debt whilst running, sort of wheezy and although i need to take a breathe? If that makes sense, of course it's physical and some may say "man up", but i think it's possibly a bit more than just manning up. I sat down after just the 20mins and caught breathe, went into a push up position to work on ankle mobility and head felt like it was going to explode, it was so warm and i had such a big blood rush that it was a strange feeling, i looked down and noticed arms were covered in blood cells too, must of raised blood pressure a bit.
I also had some shoulder achy/discomfort during the running, is frustrating, sort of seems like body doesn't want me to do anything, but after todays experience i noticed i am really weak at running and have a poor cardiovascular system, so if i try and run more often it should help that, just got to make do with what i can for now
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I'm sure the one you're planning to use will be fine having read all that.
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Yeah seems to be good, hopefully it'll be here this week.Boss Man wrote:I'm sure the one you're planning to use will be fine having read all that.
Today:
17 Pull ups
Deadlifts - gave these a try after a good couple of months of not doing them
20KG x lots
30kg x5
40kg x5
50kg x5
60kg x5
70kg x5
80kg x5
That was challenging enough, didn't want to go for 90 although i may of been able to get it, right knee felt really swollen and i have to limp to walk, so probably not a good idea in all. Not much of a strength decrease 20-30kg perhaps, depending on if i could of gone on.
Bench Press 50kg 4x10 - Midly difficult, slightly harder than last time, but enough stimulation.
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Back has been a bit better past few days, but hurting now, as it took me just under 3 hours to set up our gas BBQ. Must of not been breathing through abs as much as when i relax it's easy to do, but not when im doing tasks like that
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Today:
17 pull ups
BBQ
Possibly a slowish jog bit later if knee can handle it, hurting at the mo, or if not slow skipping, as if i do anything normal paced shoulders will ache.
Around 23-24mins jogging today, 1 extra lap than previous, felt great tonight, the drizzly rain made it that much better.
17 pull ups
BBQ
Possibly a slowish jog bit later if knee can handle it, hurting at the mo, or if not slow skipping, as if i do anything normal paced shoulders will ache.
Around 23-24mins jogging today, 1 extra lap than previous, felt great tonight, the drizzly rain made it that much better.
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Re: Fat Around Button Area?
Today
17 hammer grip pull ups
3x12 BW dips.
17 hammer grip pull ups
3x12 BW dips.