Fat Acceptance Kooks Trashing the Late Jack LaLanne

[fitoverforty]

I've been following this thread for a while now from a distance....but now I must ask a question.

even people like myself that have been overweight and ate saturated fats and trans fats. Even if i lost weight now i will still have those fats in body that could lead to something like heart disease or congestive failure. uncle when he had bypass surgery i asked the surgeon about that, and he said it always stays with you even if you start eating healthy.

So the point made was that addictions to substances and food can be reversible and eliminated, but their effects may not always naturally be reversible, depending on how severe.

I mentioned fat being non reversible i guess you mentioned that there as well.

I don't understand what you are meaning when you say that even if a person who is overweight lost weight they would still have "those" fats in their body forever.
I would like to try to understand that statement - as it might be discouraging to someone reading it thinking they can never rid themselves of fat if they are or have been overweight.
Boss Man said that they may not be naturally reversible - that is not saying they could not be, just that in some cases it might not be done naturally.
Are you talking about the plaque and fat buildup in the arteries and veins?
That is reversible, both with drugs and naturally through diet.
An article I found on how foods can unclog arteries: http://www.nutralegacy.com/blog/general ... naturally/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not trying to argue (that's not intention at all ) I'm just trying to clarify exactly you were saying because I don't understand it.

[Boss Man]

When I said may not be naturally reversible, I'm taking about the potential problems caused by addictions, based on severity.

People can overcome obestiy quite naturally without surgery, but if the skin cannot reshape itself to the persons contours and ends up loose, then surgical correction is the only choice.

If a person gets some kind of irreversible Liver problems from drug addiction, the addiction itself can be ovecome and eliminated from the individuals life, but the Liver issues will remain.

It's like someone having Hepatic Cirrhosis, (Cirrhosis of the Liver). They may not necessarily die from their Liver problems, or require transplant, but the severity would be such that even after complete abstinence of alcoholic substances has been achieved, things like reduced Liver health and some nervous activity I.E. "the shakes", may never be reversed in part of in full.

Someone with a heavy drinking problem, that doesn't fit the criteria of an alcoholic, e.g. doesn't drink before midday, could potentially regain all original Liver condition, by observing total abstinence of alcoholic substances, for a lengthy period of years. The Liver being permitted the time and space to heal, whilst also performing the functions it is required to do on a daily basis.

So I made out that some addictions can get so severe as to be overcome, but in regard to the problems they cause, such problems may not and depending on the issue, surgical correction may be the only answer.

[fit-fanatic-2025]

Maybe i misunderstood the heart surgeon. question to him was if an overweight reduces their weight is it reversible in the arteries? He said no, but he might have misunderstood and had been referring to uncle who had congestive heart failure and meant that people with congestive heart failure in particular that it is not reversible?? Not sure.

I'm glad to know that it possibly is reversible. Makes me feel better