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badversion
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Fat loss cardio question

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I am in the process of building muscle and gaining weight but in the process i gained a few useless pounds on stomach and body is not looking good.

so i will do weight as usuals but what about cardio?

Should I do it slow or fast normal i go 7.5 to 9.0 kmph on treadmill

and what about elliptical machine i put on 6 difficulty level and go on the speed of 8.5 to 11.0

and cycling I put it on 8 difficulty level and go about 12.0 to 14.0.

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You can't gain muscle and lose fat at the same time I'm afraid, I think if you added in cardio you would probably be put into a deficit and lose the extra pounds but you wouldn't build any muscle, in fact you might lose a bit if your not consuming enough protein.

It's up to you what you do now; either continue building muscle and lose the fat later when you've reached a desired weight or lose it now. There's always a risk you'll put on a bit of fat during a 'bulk' though :wink:.
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Re: Fat loss cardio question

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Thank you for your response I am aware in the bulking stage i would gain some fat.

but I heard in this community somewhere doing slow cardio is more fruitful in burning fat then a high-paced cardio
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TockyB wrote:You can't gain muscle and lose fat at the same time I'm afraid
Actually you can :). 1lb of added muscle burns an additional 45-50 calories. It wouldn't be realistic for guys weighing 180lbs+, but for guys training less than 18 months that aren't that size, it could be.

Added Cardio could be the answer or alternatively altered calories.

Example. Taking 10g Carbs out of a meal and adding in roughly 4.5g Fats back in, so you cause a potential Carb deficeit that could be compensated for with some Fat. This way you keep a caloric maintenance, but alter the ratios.

I wouldn't do this more than once though, incase you go too low carb, but if your Carb intake was in the region of 40-50g per meal, you could do this.
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Boss Man wrote:
TockyB wrote:You can't gain muscle and lose fat at the same time I'm afraid
Actually you can :). 1lb of added muscle burns an additional 45-50 calories. It wouldn't be realistic for guys weighing 180lbs+, but for guys training less than 18 months that aren't that size, it could be.
I heard that it was impossible as fat loss and muscle gain are completely opposite goals, as to build muscle you would need to consume more calories than maintenance for your body to actually create this extra muscle, and for fat loss you would need to be put into a deficit, which means no new muscle can be made because your not eating enough to make it? Or are you refering to 'newbie' gains?
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It can happen in the early stages, when you're not eating too much.

You could create a deficeit to stimulate Fat metabolism, or you could reduce Carbs slightly, then replace the calories with Fat calories, thereby creating a maintenance that should allow for more Fatoot be used, to replace the Carb energies that were not supplied, but the maintenance shouldn't reduce muscle mass.

Also if you split the difference, reduced Carbs and add half the calories back from Fat and half from Protein, you might get a build muscle and burn fat effect, by creating a small Carb deficeit Fat would supply, but adding Protein to build.

Though mainly I was referring to people who are not very seasoned at lifting. What I mentioned would be possible for about the first 18-24 months of bodybuilder type lifting, but after that, it would be much harder to build muscle and burn fat.
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Yes, that should have said Fat to be used DUH :wink:
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