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Thanks alot Cassie and that's fine no problem, hope it goes well.

Yeah im going to keep trying best with squats, i never knew they were so dangerous if done wrong, but i think i got most of the hang of it earlier as it made me more out of breathe like deadlifts do and i could feel it in thighs for once.

The elbow isn't too bad, hurts sometimes when i have it in certain positions, but im getting it checked out soon anyway.

Hmm, maybe i'll add on 10mins of jump rope after then, just incase i don't get the chance of doing it the weekend, however i probably will.

100g oats, with 200ml semi skimmed milk, quite alot of calories i feel for what actually doesn't fill you up loads in opinion.
460 cals, 17.8g protein, 64.8g carbs, 9.4g fat

At the moment tdee is around
2738 cals, 181g protein, 336.8g carbs, 55.8g fat

Slice of wholemeal bread, 1 fig
139 cals, 4g prottein 25g carbs, 1.5g fat

Protein scoop with water before i go to bed.
122 cals, 22.5g protein, 1.9g fat 3g carb
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Day 385
Breakfast, 3 shreaded wheat, protein scoop and 200ml semi skimmed milk
445 cal, 36.8g protein, 58.3g carb, 6.6g fat

Upper Body Workout B
Warm up - bent over BB row
4 x Bent Over BB row (60kg) - 7,7,7,7
3 x Incline DB Press (20kgx2) - 8,8,10
3 x chin ups - 10,10,10
3 x lateral raise (6kg x2) - 10,10,10
3 x French Press (13kg) - 8,8,9
3 x Hammer curl (11kgx2) - 9,9,9
3 x DB Pullover (22kg) - 8,8,9

Did 10mins jump rope after as you suggested and boy i didn't want time to go much faster, i was already tired, thirsty but did it even though i wasn't as good.
So good workout i feel, everything was better this week, more weight or more reps, with the bent over bb rows i used to do 3 sets and in 5-8 reps, however if i was doing 3 x 5 reps it probably isn't enough volume, so tried 4x6-8.
The incline db press was ok, be ideal if i can get a self spotting rig of some sort though as the hard part is getting the weight in the starting position/getting it off.
Chin ups were also alright, really wanted to make sure i did better this week and did manage so, with french press i hope im doing them right, im keeping arms in a close as i can and having a fairly close grip, felt right elbow click a bit on the first set, maybe these will be easier once i get a ez curl bar, but yeah adding weight every week which is good, but form is the most important.
Hammer curl now these were hard, last week i did i think 8,8,8 or 8,8,5 and struggled. Same sorta thing, on the last set i had to tweak form a little just to get in the last 2 reps, so i don't think adding weight is ideal for these and even when it comes to doing them next week ,i think im really going to struggle to do 10,10,10?
And finally DB pullover found these more difficult today maybe because more weight but with these i know i give 110%, as im always out of breathe while doing them and tired after, i feel if i could do this for all the exercises gains would be great, but i suppose the reason why it seems im giving the most effort for the pullovers is because i know if i drop the weight theres a high chance it will kill me.

75g bran flakes, a chopped up apple, protein scoop and 200ml boiled semi skimmed milk :P
527 cals, 38g protein, 76.8g carbs, 12,6g sugar from bran flakes, 7.3g fat
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MartinBoy wrote:Day 385
Breakfast, 3 shreaded wheat, protein scoop and 200ml semi skimmed milk
445 cal, 36.8g protein, 58.3g carb, 6.6g fat

Upper Body Workout B
Warm up - bent over BB row
4 x Bent Over BB row (60kg) - 7,7,7,7
3 x Incline DB Press (20kgx2) - 8,8,10
3 x chin ups - 10,10,10
3 x lateral raise (6kg x2) - 10,10,10
3 x French Press (13kg) - 8,8,9
3 x Hammer curl (11kgx2) - 9,9,9
3 x DB Pullover (22kg) - 8,8,9

Did 10mins jump rope after as you suggested and boy i didn't want time to go much faster, i was already tired, thirsty but did it even though i wasn't as good.
So good workout i feel, everything was better this week, more weight or more reps, with the bent over bb rows i used to do 3 sets and in 5-8 reps, however if i was doing 3 x 5 reps it probably isn't enough volume, so tried 4x6-8.
The incline db press was ok, be ideal if i can get a self spotting rig of some sort though as the hard part is getting the weight in the starting position/getting it off.
Chin ups were also alright, really wanted to make sure i did better this week and did manage so, with french press i hope im doing them right, im keeping arms in a close as i can and having a fairly close grip, felt right elbow click a bit on the first set, maybe these will be easier once i get a ez curl bar, but yeah adding weight every week which is good, but form is the most important.
Hammer curl now these were hard, last week i did i think 8,8,8 or 8,8,5 and struggled. Same sorta thing, on the last set i had to tweak form a little just to get in the last 2 reps, so i don't think adding weight is ideal for these and even when it comes to doing them next week ,i think im really going to struggle to do 10,10,10?
And finally DB pullover found these more difficult today maybe because more weight but with these i know i give 110%, as im always out of breathe while doing them and tired after, i feel if i could do this for all the exercises gains would be great, but i suppose the reason why it seems im giving the most effort for the pullovers is because i know if i drop the weight theres a high chance it will kill me.

75g bran flakes, a chopped up apple, protein scoop and 200ml boiled semi skimmed milk :P
527 cals, 38g protein, 76.8g carbs, 12,6g sugar from bran flakes, 7.3g fat
Sounds like you're getting stronger Martin! This is GREAT GREAT GREAT news! Your hard work is definitely paying off and you are doing a fantastically terrific job! AWESOME job on the jump rope... I imagine that was a bit brutal after doing the weights. Way to stick it out and work through the pain! I'm proud of ya Martin! You are such an inspiration! :mrgreen:
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Thanks Cassie! Yeah it was hard but hopefully it will help endurance, slow but surely :)

Can of baked beans, tbls crunchy peanut butter
305 cals, 20.1g protein, 30g carbs, 8g fat

2 Slices wholemeal bread, 5 turkey breast slices and a tbls of crunchy peanut butter
384 cals 30.5g protein, 30g carbs, 10.6g fat

50g oats, 100ml semi skimmed milk
230 cals, 8.9g protein, 35.4g carbs, 5.7g fat

50g cous cous, 25g peanuts, 150g prawns
450 cals, 37g protein, 40g carbs, 14g fat

Nectrane 62 cals, 15g carbs

50g oats, 100ml semi skimmed milk
230 cals, 8.9g protein, 35.4g carbs, 5.7g fat

TDEE around
2633 cals, 180.3g protein, 320.9g carbs, 58g fat
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Day 386
Breakfast - 3 shreaded wheat, protein scoop and 200ml semi skimmed milk
445 cal, 36.8g protein, 58.3g carb, 6.6g fat

Workout - Lower Body A
Deadlift warm up set 30kg
5 x Deadlift 60kg - 5,5,5,5,5
3 x SLDL 50kg - 8,8,8
4 x Leg Extension (20kg) - 10,10,10,10
5 x Seated Calf raise (20kg-30kg) - 15,15,15,15,15

Was alright, however lower body workouts are always a lot shorter than upper body and lower body is just as if not more important. It lasted 36 mins for the workout which isn't loads. However, it went well i think just need to make sure form is good, SLDL i reduced the weight to 50kg as it's hard on wrists and this allowed me to do more reps which i did feel it working the hamstrings more, leg extensions i did the end of the motion, so not going all the way down as i feel it's going to put unnecessary pressure on the knees.

And seated calf raises i gave a go by sitting on a bench, and a plank of wood (which i used for incline before) i rested feet on but it probably wasn't high enough, had the weight on a barbell on lap and went from there, but then put the weight on lap and increased it but i feel it was akind of waste of time, maybe next time i need more weight or i need to have feet higher up.

75g bran flakes, a chopped up apple, protein scoop and 200ml boiled semi skimmed milk
527 cals, 38g protein, 76.8g carbs, 12,6g sugar from bran flakes, 7.3g fat

Didn't do the 10mins jump rope after as i forgot, hope it wasn't needed as much, i'll possibly do the 10mins tomorrow.

Ideally id like to give GHR a go, but first need to find a place to do so.

Dried fig and apricot - 90 cals, 18g carbs

50g cous cous, tbls crunchy peanut butter and white fish fillet
390 cals, 40g protein, 36g carbs, 8g fat
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Hi Martin,

Don't worry too much about upper body workouts taking longer than lower body. For upper body you have your pecs, back, biceps, triceps, shoulders... 5 body parts. For lower body you really just have hams, quads, glutes, and calves... 4 bodyparts. This will make the lower body a bit faster than upper. Plus, there are quite a few more exercises to work with when doing upper body compared to lower; especially for you where you're working out at home so you don't have access to all the fancy workout machines found in gyms. Can you do hamstring curls on that bench of yours? If so I would have thrown those in to balance things out a bit. You could also throw in another calf exercise to make 6 exercises total.... 2 for each bodypart. OR you could always add in lunges or step ups if you feel the need to do more.

What is GHR?
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cassiegose wrote:Hi Martin,

Don't worry too much about upper body workouts taking longer than lower body. For upper body you have your pecs, back, biceps, triceps, shoulders... 5 body parts. For lower body you really just have hams, quads, glutes, and calves... 4 bodyparts. This will make the lower body a bit faster than upper. Plus, there are quite a few more exercises to work with when doing upper body compared to lower; especially for you where you're working out at home so you don't have access to all the fancy workout machines found in gyms. Can you do hamstring curls on that bench of yours? If so I would have thrown those in to balance things out a bit. You could also throw in another calf exercise to make 6 exercises total.... 2 for each bodypart. OR you could always add in lunges or step ups if you feel the need to do more.

What is GHR?
Glute Ham Raise :P

I can do hamstring curls, but i was reading up on them, and noticed that someone's opinion was that they destroy your hamstrings/knees as there not a natural exercise - explaining that in real life you wouldn't use your hamstrings to curl up like that, but the other way, not sure how much of this is true so didn't bother much, but yeah it's possible to do them on the bench i have.

Dinner - chicken, jacket potato and green beans/peas with a small amount of gravy.
Did a bit of research on the chicken so it's roughly this
420 cals, 31g protein, 45g carbs, 6g fat

lower left delt is quite sore today which is good, just hope the rest of the body is repairing and growing :)

25g peanuts - 160 cals, 7g protein, 13g fat

Chicken piece - 160 cals, 27g protein, 5g fat

50g oats, 100ml semi skimmed milk
230 cals, 8.9g protein, 35.4g carbs, 5.8g fat

Wheatabix x3 with 200ml semi skimmed milk
292 cals, 12.8g protein, 52.8g carbs, 6.4g fat

Had a maryland choc chip cookie, prob shouldn't of but
57 cals, 7.6g carbs, 2.6g fat

Feel like im a bit fatter but whatever, the less i care about it the less i'll think about it
TDEE AROUND
2771 cals, 201.5g protein, 329.9g carbs, 60.8g fat

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Day 387
Breakfast, 3 shreaded wheat with 200ml semi skimmed milk, 4 egg whites
383 cal, 30.3g protein, 55.3g carb, 4.7g fat

Going to do around 15mins cardio soon.

1/2 cup oats, 100ml semi skimmed milk, can of red kidney beans
454 cals, 25.5g protein, 65.4g carbs, 6g fat

Only managed 10mins of jump rope as it started raining so couldn't finish the last 5 minutes, i think next time before i do the cardio i'll let food go down a bit longer as at times i felt a little sick, still i'll do 20mins of jump rope tomorrow as i did 10 the other day too.

2 slices of wholemeal bread, can of sardines and a banana.
498 cals, 30g protein, 56g carbs, 14g fat

300g yogurt, 100g cottage cheese
270 cals, 27.2g protein, 25g carbs, 6g fat

Slice of wholemeal bread, 100 cals, 4.8g protein, 17g carbs, 1g fat

100g oats, 200ml semi skimmed milk
460 cals, 17.8g protein, 70.8g carbs, 11.6g fat

Meals a bit messed up today? In terms of being close together etc
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Was out last night, smoked a little, had about half a small beer and went out for a meal but only ate salad and chicken breast flame grilled, jacket potato, after had like few smiley faces/onion rings not alot. Didn't want to make myself vomit. So hopefully i won't put on weight/effect muscle growth, going to do jump rope now anyway.

Day 388
3 shreaded wheat iwht protein scoop and 200ml semi skimmed milk
445 cal, 36.8g protein, 58.8g carb, 6.6g fat

25mins jump rope, a lot harder where i was tired, felt like chest was caving in and shoulders were being pulled off body lol, must of done at least 2000 jumps.

300ml semi skimmed milk, banana
250 cals, 10.2g protein, 39.2g carbs, 5.1g fat

2 slices wholemeal bread, 200g natural yogurt, 100g cottage cheese.
410 cals, 27.8g protein, 52g carbs, 7.5g fat

What's the max protein i should eat in one sitting, as i know our bodies can't store it and don't want to be eating amounts that are being wasted.

50G Cous Cous, 25G peanuts, 1/2 can of tuna and an apple
475 cal, 29.5g protein, 51g carbs, 14g fat

2 Slices wholemeal bread, 1/2 can tuna and tbls crunchy peanut butter
360 cals, 28g protein, 34g carbs, 10g fat

3 wheatabix with 200ml semi skimmed milk to get in some more calories - prob not the best meal to have at 11pm at night.
292 cals, 12.4g protein, 52.8g carbs, 6.4g fat

TDEE AROUND
2270 cals, 154.6g protein, 287.8g carbs, 49.6g fat

Could be a chance im going away for a few days tomomrrow, keeping strict nutrition even if i can't workout and make progress :( Maybe i should look out for a gym as outdoor gyms that you see over parks aren't the best for routine lol. And it seems quite annoying, eating well when not putting any work in, it's almost as if im wasting time, not that i hate eating the way i do but i feel like if no effort is being put in, then of course no gains will be made.
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Day 389
Nevermind found a local gym there, so will probably use that the monday and tuesday sessions, and maybe thursday depending on when i get back :)
Breakfast - 4 egg whites, 3 shreded wheat with 200ml semi skimmed milk.
382 cals, 30g protein, 55.8g carbs, 5.4g fat
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jUST updating to say that ive ben to a gym here and am planning to go again tomorow, however some bad news, ive decided to go away on holiday for 3 weeks as it's a chaper price and i won't get the chance again, so all money down the drain, but it should be good, only thing is im obviously going to want to enjoy myself, alcohol food etc, will i lose progress, im expecting theres a chance i could get a little fat, but will i lose the muscle i have etc, also it kinda messes up driving test etc but i might aswell go im not going to get the chance again!

Way i see it there's no point mising a chance of a lunchtime because driving test although im going to have to learn it again as will probably change when i could fail it anyway, it's something i'll have to do at another date?it

I really want to go but of course im cautious of routine/progress the lot.
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That's what holidays are for, showing off your hard work :wink: Don't worry about taking a 3 weeks break, you're not gonna lose your muscle.
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Hey guys im back, ate good nutrition, and even went to the gym a couple of times, did upper body though on the 2 days rather than lower as lower doesn't take as long and wanted to get the use out of the gym, so hopefully i'll do them sometime the weekend.

Rough nutrition

1st day: 2220 cals, 144g protein, 278g carbs, 42g fat
2nd day: (gym) - 2688 cals, 178g protein, 334g carbs, 52.6g fat
3rd day - 2836 cals, 189g protein, 386g carbs, 44g fat
4th day - (gym) 3013 cals, 187g protein, 397g carbs, 63g fat

So as you can see i needed more calories as the day went on, i also have to eat say every 2-3hours as i notice i get hungry, which i hope isn't a problem when i go away, anyway more on that, I've decided to spend money to go away to Greece as it's a holiday i probably won't get offered again as the price is about half, most of the food labels etc will be in Greece, plus i will probably be out most of the nights, now i am going to treat it as a holiday, in that terms not being able to workout, so when im back i should be full of energy when i have first workout, problem being, nutrition and drinking etc is going to change immensly, now the main problem i have is worrying about losing muscle and any of progress, it's 3 weeks out of 52 so in that respect not alot, but when you're probably not eating too well etc for 3 weeks then knowing me i would gain some fat, so worse way im guessing im going to have to burn it off when i come back, but as long as i can keep the muscle i have, it is a holiday so of course i want to enjoy myself, but working out and nutriton/routine means alot to me.

Can of redkidney beans with 50g wheat germ and some tomato sauce

todays tdee so far around
2387 cals, 154.8g protein, 310g carbs, 50.7g fat
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I had a Grandmother who went there once, who said she didn't like it because it wasn't green enough.

I think she was referring to a possible lack of grass and foliage, but even so her comments were treated with laughter and surprise :wink:
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Well hopefully it'll be a great time! And worth the money im hoping!

Day 394
Breakfast, 3 shreaded wheat, 50g wheat germ and 200ml semi skimmed milk
503 cal, 29.3g protein, 80.3g carb, 9.7g fat

Quite busy as late, hope i can get in at least 1 legs day though as i missed it this week, so hopefully i can get in a day the weekend.

100g chicken, 50g oats
340 cals, 31g protein, 30g carbs, 5.5g fat

Ok tried fitting in lower body a workout
Found 4 different sized and width pieces of wood, which i tried to stack barbell on for deadlifts so that i didn't squat too low to get the bar, trying to adjust form, they were at the bottom of shin, did 5 reps and sets of 61kg weight, it felt kinda easy, not sure if that was because i had some oats before doing the workout or where legs haven't been worked for about a week, but it just felt most of back was being worked, nothing else, same with SLDL - 51kg 3x8, went to do hamstring curls (lying on bench reverse curls) but it just didn't feel right, 20kg couldn't go all the motion, tried 10kg and it felt like it was getting caught on something.

I was going to stop after the first deadlifts but basically workout was just both deadlifts, sweating had baggy trousers on and quite busy so not really a "workout" and it didn't particualy feel hard and challenging which is annoying in a way as where im going away for 3 weeks, need to workout hard, sorry.

50G oats, protein scoop, 100ml semi skimmed milk
352 cals, 31g protein, 38g carbs, 7.7g fat

Ahh back is still hurting god damn! I bet it isn't muscular pain!

100g chicken 50g cous cous
295 cals, 31g protein, 36g catrbs, 3g fat

25g peanuts
150 cals, 6.5g protein, 13g fat

50g oats, 50g wheat germ, 200ml semi skimmed milk
460 cals, 28.3g protein, 65.8g carbs, 12.5g fat

tdee around
2395 cals, 166g protein, 300.8g carbs, 57.2g fat

early night, big day tomomrow.
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