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MartinBoy wrote:Wow guys thanks for all the help, i read it all and there is some great advice there, Les im sorry to hear about your dad, and i know things are hard for everyone, with easter eggs lol, if i can resist mine will probably stay in the cuboard for so long that they'll eventually go out of date. About the bloating, is it a really bad thing? I mean, sure it's horrible to feel bloated, no one likes it, but as long as it doesn't make you fatter than it doesn't bother me too much, sure i don't like feeling fat and bloated, but if it's not constant i guess it isn't too bad, the only thing i could thing of is maybe beans? As they have alot of salt in them? Or fish, as i usually eat that, that has quite a bit of salt too.

Day 265

Breakfast, 1 scoop protein powder (23g protein 90 cal) with semi skimmed milk, so probably about 200-250 cals? and maybe 30-33g protein.

3 Wheatabix with semi skimmed milk, maybe 400 cals? 2 wheatabix with semi skimmed milk is 198 cals. So id say here about 15g protein? I know it's not a protein source, but still has it.

1 scoop protein powder with a little bit semi skimmed milk before workout.

Workout
50kg bench press 4 sets reps 6-10
50kg barbell bent over rows 3 sets reps 7
50kg barbell deadlifts 3 sets reps 10
50kg barbell shrugs 1 set rep 7
20kg barbell curls 3 sets reps 8-10
20kg barbell military press/shoulder press, 3 sets reps 6-10

I usually say 18kg for the dumbells, as it's 16kg of weight but the pole and clips are supposed to make an extra 2kg, but i don't include the weight for barbell, so from now on im going to just say 16kg

16kg dumbbell flys on bench, 3 sets reps 6-8
16kg dumbell press on bench, 2 or 3 sets can't quite remember, and about 6-7reps.
16kg dumbell rows, 3 sets per arm rep (10)

16kg dumbbell squats 3 sets reps 10
16kg dumbbell lunges 3 sets reps 10 (5 rep per leg)

I feel better after that workout, im not exactly screaming in pain but i can feel ive done a workout, i don't feel as "with it" i was going to do about 20misn cycling after, but i don't want to end up killing myself, i feel ive done enough.

Can of baked beans in tomato sauce after, drained most of the sauce out of the can, and can is 366 cal, about 68g carb, and i think 20g is sugars, do u think this is natural sugars? Or possibly sugar from the sauce? and about 20gs protein.

Feel better today too where i haven't been picking at things.

Apple
some dry roasted peanuts

And a pack of beef slices, whole pack is about 190 cals, 39g protein.
Hi Martin,

Being bloated doesn't necessarily cause any health issues that I know of... Just makes you feel fatter than you are. It could definitely be the beans! I doubt its the fish. It could be the protein powder. It could definitely be the bread. Maybe keep mental track of the foods that cause you to bloat up if possible.

Instead of guessing on calories Martin why don't you measure things out so you know exactly what you're eating? Grab a measuring cup or spoons and measure out you food so you know how much protein/carbs/fat/calories youre eating. Then you don't have to guess. I would also write it down. I know it sounds like a lot of work but its really not and will allow you to have a good idea of what youre consuming.

As for the can of beans... the sugar is most likely added. Check the ingredients list on the can. If it lists sugar then its added. If it doesn't list sugar but lists tomatoes then its most likely fructose from the tomatoes. guess is that its added sugar though.

For your workout... So you did bench press with the barbell and with dumbells? This seems unnecessary to do the same exercise twice. Your workout doesn't look terrible but you are doing a bit much. Also, where are the pull ups? :cry: You could take out one of the row exercises and the curls and add pull ups instead to replace both of those other exercises. I'm VERY happy to see some lower body work in there Martin! Great job hitting the full 3 sets of each lower body exercise. :mrgreen:

You're doing awesome Martin and I'm very proud of you. You're sticking with it even though it would be easier to throw in the towel and quit. You've come a VERY long way in the past and I know you are going to meet your goals. I know its hard sometimes and youre living situation isn't ideal for somebody trying to make healthy choices. Just keep taking it one day at a time and you'll get there eventually!

Cassie
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Thanks for the help Cassie, and also i forgot to mention before going out to the shed to workout i did 3 sets of 6 reps of pull ups. And i do normally keep a note so i know what im consuming, but normally in head lol. Just hope i stop feeling as fat soon, couldn't of put on weight.. Just gotta stick with it.

I don't really eat much bread anymore.

Had a small jacket potato.
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Sorry to interrupt, but is it a good or bad idea to go to failure every set on chinups/pullups?
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Not bad per se, but it might lead to ovetraining and in general failure training isn't necessary. You could quite easily do 10 reps if you were capable of 12 and still get a good anabolic result, without added fatigue.
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Good to know, cheers mate.
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Day 266

Breakfast, protein shake with milk

Porridge oats with milk.

Easter - i have got so much choclate/eggs, that i feel you know i dunno what to do, i have a creme egg easter egg, mars, caramel, another mars, kit kat, a pack of dairy milk, and a box of creme eggs.

Now, past easters ive been eating eggs no problem and all, but lately i feel fat as it is and i don't want to put on weight, so all eggs are here in room next to me and i just feel it's going to waste, i suppose i could always give to brother but he'll just end up getting fat himself. I dunno what to do, if there's a way i can eat it without putting on weight il do it, i mean, eating say a egg one day and doing 45mins cycling or whatever, i just dunno, id feel like im getting fat after just one bite, what's the best advice you can give for this as it's not exactly ideal i know. You said have one treat day? But if i ate say 2 whole eggs in one day id feel id put on weight.

Can of tuna 140 cals 30g protein.

Just ate half a shell of a caburys egg, temptation was too much lol, (265 cals 3.8g protein, 28.4g carbs, 15g fat.) Going to do cardio today anyway but going to extend it to an hour cycling just to make up for it. Right? Im still eating well.

Just putting some music on ipod then going to do some cardio.

Did the 60mins cardio boy. 60mins cycling probably longest ive done for, i wasn't bombing it like a 100m race, but i wasn't exactly going slow. I mean, normally speed is between 20-22/23, im assuming kmh. Today most of the time it was between 22-24 sometimes even 25. Funny enough i think eating half that choclate egg shell actually helped. I felt quite energetic, and it made things alot easier, now it was kinda easy i guess, but il probably be feeling it soon, i feel a bit tired and legs are going to get sore, and it couldn't of been that easy because i was soaking in sweat, i stunk the room out lol. I Got off the bike and face was all red and i just stunk of b.o.

I feel alot better now ive done it though and if that's what it takes to get ripped and a 6 pack il do it, probably sounds funny now saying that as i was saying about the easter eggs earlier :lol:

According to it i done 23.2 miles and burned 1051 calories. So that must seriously be at least 500 calories? I mean it can't be that unaccurate surely, or they wouldn't be allowed to sell it? So even if it is the worse (500 cals) and the egg was 265, ive cancelled that out and burned a few hundred extra calories.
So all good? :D

Now going to have a can of baked beans to fill me up.

366 cals, 20.2g protein, 68g carb, 24.4g were sugar. I checked the ingredients Cassie and it said sugar on there :( However i drained most of the sauce out when i opened it.
Apple.

Some chunky chicken breast pieces.

Keep feel myself getting hungry now, cardio catching up.

Dinner, mash, some beans, and few chicken pieces.

Snacking on the chicken pieces.

Finished pack of chicken pieces, been getting hungry.

Snacking on peanuts, kiwi, some salad.

Feel fatter again now though, lately farts have been smelling, i know it's not exactly nice to talk about but im thinking it could be the protein powder? Also what happens if i eat more protein than ishould, say i should have 154g a day and i eat like say 170? Will i get fat?
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Then don't :) Put them in the basket and ring the doorbell of a house with kids.
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Day 267

Breakfast, protein shake with small bit of milk

Shreaded wheat with semi skimmed milk.


Small cup of oats with an even smaller bit of milk just so it aint completely dry.

4 egg whites.

Protein shake with semi skimmed milk before workout.

Workout

20kg barbell curls 3 sets reps 8-10
20kg barbell military press/shoulder press 3 sets reps 8-10

50kg bench press 4 sets reps 6-9
50kg bent over barbell rows 3 sets reps 6-8
50kg barbell deadlifts 3 sets reps 10

17kg 2 sets hammer curls reps 6
17kg dumbbell flys reps 5-6
17kg dumbell rows 3 sets reps 10 each arm

10kg squats reps 10 3 sets
10kg lunges reps 10 3 sets.

Felt it was alot harder today, dunno if fatigue is the word? And i keep feeling sick about half way through it, dunno if it's where im drinking water to stop getting thirsty, or the protein shake before, but that affects workout.

Think i need to get a new bench too, it's not that comfortable.

Can of beans.

Dinner - cabbage, can of tuna, and roast potatoes.
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You're not going to get loads of Fat gain off anoher 16 grams of protein a day now and then. You might create an excess calorie total, where some calories convert to Fat, depending on how many calories in total you eat per day, in respect of how many your body tends to use.

If you then failed to consume quite as many calories, for a considerable number of days, you wouldn't sustain the Fat level anyway, because you wouldn't be eating enough to replace any Fat you burn off, so you'd more than like go down a bit, but in reality, what you're suggesting is likely to yield tiny amounts of Fat gain, that aren't going ot be a problem and could drop back to where you normally are anyway.

You'd have to start regularly caning it, with at least another 300-500 calories of bad nutrition, to get any long-term problem Fat gains, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Ok thanks for clearing that up Boss Man.

Day 268

Breakfast, protein shake with semi skimmed milk.

Porridge oats with semi skimmed milk.

Was picking at a bit of the egg shell yesterday now and then so going to do hour cardio.

Did 60mins cardio but was alot harder than the other day, burned 1014 calories according to it and last time 1051. Plus i had to stop a couple of times for like a minute to recover.

Maybe eating the egg shell was a bit of a boost i needed before cardio last time as i found it alot easier?

Can of baked beans.

So angry though i could scream, i don't see how i still have this fat sticking out and making me look fat! I cant do anymore!!!!!!!!!

Prawns

Protein shake with water.

Peanuts.
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Day 269

Breakfast protein shake with semi skimmed milk, shreaded wheat with semi skimmed milk.

Beef slices

2 handfulls of porridge oats, some milk for taste.

Protein shake with water before workout

Workout

Quite alot of sets of bench press as i want chest to be in proportion with the rest of body.
Bent over barbell rows
Deadlifts
Hammer curls
Dumbbell flys
Dumbbel rows
squats
lunges

and did some pullups/chins up before.

Im just sick and tired of this fat around , i want to be able to take top off and feel comfortable and not have fat folding over theres so much skin there i can grab it and stretch it ages its getting me down i feel like ripping it off really fed up and down!

I mean sure ive been picking at a few bits, ive got about 6 easter eggs in me room! It's not like im living off of them, im still eating well, it's not like im even eating one whole box of easter eggs a day or anything. And im still exercising, plus it's only been past few days i been picking at bits, i know eating easter eggs doesn't get you a 6 pack, but i am exercising and eating well, even if i can't get a 6 pack id like a flat stomach and not this fat! God it's almost been a year and im still here after making this topic lol il always be fat.

Can of beans, 300cal 21g protein

Felt a bit dizzy since yesterday, think it's the cardio?

I mean today ive eaten a "caramel egg" it's ment to be 195 calories, but all the caramel fell out where i took a bite and left it so probly wasn't as much but still, i know seems a bit weird to be moaning about fat and all if i had that, but then again, like i said i don't live off of it and there's alot of it in room, i haven't eaten many calories. As long as i can do a way so i don't gain fat il be ok, i know i might not make much progress though, but as long as i don't get fat it's all good as it's not permant.

God! i cant stop picking at these eggs. I feel im going to end up getting fat, it may be because im not eating high calorie meals, like i just had a pack of prawns, 31g protein but only 120 cals.

So hopefully the eggs won't make much difference, i feel as if im turning into these people that worry all the time as every bite im cautious of, i don't want to worry so much hair falls out. But obviously i want to stay in shape. However about that i think it may benefit me to take cardio off tomorow as today and yesterday felt a bit dizzy.

Just went to do some cycling on the bike, i think im going mad, did workout earlier i went on there for 1min 15 secs, god i hate this, i dont feel myself. I feel like im going mad.
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Day 270

I think it is the protein shake that makes me feel bloated, but still got alot of it left and paid quite a bit of money for it, still has good nutrition value so..

Breakfast, protien shake with semi skimmed milk

Semi skimmed milk with shreaded wheat.

Can of baked beans 300 cal 21g protein.

Said to myself i wasn't going to do cardio today but did 1hour, as i felt i needed to for picking at eggs, and il do it for 2 hours every day if i have to to get a 6 pack, i want this bad. However i felt eating a bit of choclate before gave me more energy?

Been snacking on peanuts, and taking a bit of protein powder while waiting for prawns/ beef to defrost.
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[quote="MartinBoy"]Day 269


Im just sick and tired of this fat around , i want to be able to take top off and feel comfortable and not have fat folding over theres so much skin there i can grab it and stretch it ages its getting me down i feel like ripping it off really fed up and down!
I mean sure ive been picking at a few bits, ive got about 6 easter eggs in me room! It's not like im living off of them, im still eating well, it's not like im even eating one whole box of easter eggs a day or anything. And im still exercising, plus it's only been past few days i been picking at bits, i know eating easter eggs doesn't get you a 6 pack, but i am exercising and eating well, even if i can't get a 6 pack id like a flat stomach and not this fat! God it's almost been a year and im still here after making this topic lol il always be fat.


Felt a bit dizzy since yesterday, think it's the cardio?

I mean today ive eaten a "caramel egg" it's ment to be 195 calories, but all the caramel fell out where i took a bite and left it so probly wasn't as much but still, i know seems a bit weird to be moaning about fat and all if i had that, but then again, like i said i don't live off of it and there's alot of it in room, i haven't eaten many calories. As long as i can do a way so i don't gain fat il be ok, i know i might not make much progress though, but as long as i don't get fat it's all good as it's not permant.

God! i cant stop picking at these eggs. I feel im going to end up getting fat, it may be because im not eating high calorie meals, like i just had a pack of prawns, 31g protein but only 120 cals.

So hopefully the eggs won't make much difference, i feel as if im turning into these people that worry all the time as every bite im cautious of, i don't want to worry so much hair falls out. But obviously i want to stay in shape. However about that i think it may benefit me to take cardio off tomorow as today and yesterday felt a bit dizzy.

Just went to do some cycling on the bike, i think im going mad, did workout earlier i went on there for 1min 15 secs, god i hate this, i dont feel myself. I feel like im going mad.[/
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Martin,

You complain about being fat then you eat a bunch of unhealthy food. Either accept the body you have, STOP COMPLAINING, and eat the unhealthy food OR take the necessary steps to change your body and STOP COMPLAINING. I, and the others on this site, are here to help you but man it gets OLD hearing you complain about your body in one line then talk about the crappy food that youre eating in the next. As I said, either take serious steps to meet your goals or just accept yourself as you are... What ever you do man you gotta stop complaining about being "fat" (when honestly you're really not even fat!) if youre not going to take the steps to change your situation!

Sorry for the blunt response...

Meals today look really really good. If you can't stop eating those eggs throw them away or give them away.... Or just eat the stupid things and be done with it.

Cassie :wink:
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Thanks Cassie, i don't mean to complain i just get so fed up and feel i need to get it off chest, maybe it's not best to do so here though. And yeah maybe i should just eat them but don't want to at the same time, espically all in one go, but like i said been doing hour cardio lately and if that's what it takes to get a 6 pack doing 1-2hour cardio everyday il do it if i have to!

I mean even if i do decide to eat the eggs surely im doing enough cardio to not put on any weight or get fatter?

Also id like to mention, since last june or when it was i started this, i have stayed the same weight throughout, now this doesn't bother me because i don't care how much i weigh but how i look, just wanted to bring that up, as i don't think it's possible for weight to go down anymore, because ive done alot so far.

Maybe i should throw the eggs out of room? I feel fatter even if i take a small bite, im going mad? Being bored doesn't help either.

Had another can of beans as the prawns didnt seem to do much.

Been eating bits of beef/ham too.

Ive also got this body meter thing, tells your BMI, body fat percentage and all, il post mine now, i believe im about 5'10 but haven't measured myself in a while, that's what i am roughly i believe. Anyway.

I think i fit under these activity levels:
2- Lightly active - light exercise with sports 1-3days/week.
3- moderately active - moderate exercise with sports 6-7days a week.
4- very active - intense exercise everyday or exercising twice a day.

Currently ive got it set to number 3, cardio a day, then weights, and repeat. Sometimes take a sunday off, do you think im in the right group? Sorry about this lol just thought it would help if i posted it?

Body fat: 16.1%
Body water: 61.5%
Body muscle: 79.3%
BMI:22.1
Calorie:2535 - expend, guess that means what i can consume in a day?

Anyway just thought id post this as im guessing it would help?
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Day 271

Breakfast, protein shaek with water, 3 wheatabix with milk.

Had protein shake with water as been eating bits of easter eggs lately - less calories by having water.

Had another protein shake with water as i was about to do a workout but went out with dad for few hours.

Got back, can of beans, 300 cals, 20.2g protein.

Been snacking on a pack of sea food- muscles, prawns, ocean sticks, squid. Prob end up eating whole pack - about 160 cals, 26g protein.

Also been snacking on a prohibotic natural yougurt - it's 1kg, and 100g = 88 cal, 5.6g protein, 8.1g carb, 3.7g fat, so is this good?

Workout was
50kg bench press 4 sets reps 6-8
50kg barbell rows, bent over, 3 sets reps 6-8
50kg barbell deadlifts 3 sets reps 10

17kg hammer curls 1 set reps 6
17kg dumbbell shoulder press 3 sets reps 6
17kg dumbbell flys 3 sets reps 6
17kg dumbbell rows (using bench to lean on) 3 sets each arm reps 10

10kg dumbbell squats 3 sets reps 10
10kg dumbbell lunges 3 sets reps 10

Also, i just wanted to mention this, normally every morning when i wake up, the middle of chest hurts (the bit between the pecs) as if someone has been standing on chest. It normally goes but i get it often first thing in the morning?
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