New user with a question

[Endless1]

Hi, Im 6'4" with a pretty lean build and I'm trying to gain a signifigant amount of weight. I've looked over some of the threads and seen alot of recommendations to using other alternatives to regular 2% milk. I was wondering because of this if there is something in it that may hinder weight gain. The way I see it that 1L of milk is 520 cals, 20g fat, 48g carbs and 36g of protein which seems all good for purposes. Usually I consume about 1-3 liters a day so it all adds up. Any feedback would be appreciated.

[knewell]

Saturated fat can be quite anabolic, we definitely want to stay away from trans-fatty acids. With that said, don't go overboard with saturated fat (lean beef, some milk). Many people do not do well on dairy (bloating, digestion), particularly if your goal is cosmetic. Aim for your BWx16-18 cals and keep training intense-Kyle

[ultimatehlth]

You can also try kefir. Personally I like low fat chocolate milk,(it has an ideal 4-1 carb to protein ratio, and has both whey and casein) add 2-3 grams of creatine and drink 30 minutes before exercise and again within 1 hour afterward. Remember too high a fat intake can can make you fat and not significantly increase lean body mass. Lift smartly, compound movements, big weights, and adequate rest.

[Endless1]

Ya as far as I know I can't get fat. I would welcome it cause I've been the same body type for pretty well entire life. Even if just to see what everyone else is talking about.

[Boss Man]

Ectomorphs can't really get fat, though fat storage is quite possible obviously.

You may find you could fill out a bit more in later life, especially by your 50's, due to a waning metabolism, but if you're active and have a quality diet, you'll largely not get that kind of thing happening.

[Endless1]

Any advice of fighting genetics then?

[Boss Man]

Eat a quality diet, (don't overdo it on calories though), train properly and you'll be fine.

The 16-18 calories per lb bodyweight calculation already stated should be good enough for your needs. just remember to monitor intake of things like Salt, Sugar and Saturates, so you're not too indulgent.

[Endless1]

See that's kinda what I don't get why would I avoid sugar and saturated fats if those promote the body to store fat. Which is pretty easy to turn to muscle. I had one pretty stupid diet that seemed to work when I was working full time and not going to school that defiently had results, but would probably kinda make you healthy people shudder a bit. I was going for 9-13 thousand calories a day with 270-360g of protein. With a 6 days a week gym schedule. I did gain ten pounds in a couple weeks but blood pressure went to a level that pretty well indicated if I continued this I would die young. Besides can't afford that anymore.

[Endless1]

Really!? Well I know there isnt a literal transference but I thought if you had excess fat it provided stored nutrience to the muscle when it needed it. Which kinda in turn makes it easier to gain muscle. Isnt that all fat is just your bodys storage for chemical energy?

[nutcracker8787]

Please, I need some advice. Tell me if the Acai Berry diet really works and if the Acai Berry pills worth the money.Thanks

[nutcracker8787]

Please, I need some advice. Tell me if the Acai Berry diet really works and if the Acai Berry pills worth the money.Thanks

[Endless1]

Wow guess I need to rethink all this then. And I dont gain fat when I gain muscle unfortunatly. body is a big fan of staying exactly the way it is regardless of what I do. Unless I do rather drastic changes. On the upside once I do make a gain it keeps it as it becomes the new constant. But thx for letting me know. Guess views on fat where alittle distorted. Always figured because I cant gain fat was a contibuting factor to why I cant gain muscle.

[Endless1]

Alright guess gonna have to step it up a notch I can usually walk out.... unless there's stairs. Well that kinda raises another question I was told that your legs release the most growth hormones from a trainer I had for awhile. So he suggested tagging on like one set of moderately weighted squats at the end of most workouts because it promotes growth better. So would you think that's sound advice or would that lead to over training? usually aim for around 60% of max press and 10 reps

[Endless1]

Me again Sorry I'm struggling with this. If fat has no effect on building muscle. Then do calories? Like lets say I'm able to get the 270g of protein down range through properly spaced meals and have either limited or no calories with it. Would you still build muscle? I'm not saying its gonna be an issue as most of the time I'm well over recommended calories lol. But I'm just trying to understand the relation.

[cassiegose]

If you ate 270 grams of protein per day you would be consuming about 1080 calories (protein has 4 calories per gram). No, you would not be building muscle you would be losing it as you would be in a severe caloric deficit and your body would most likely be eating its own fat/muscle stores to survive. To build muscle you need to be consuming atleast as many calories as youre burning... for optimal muscle growth its best to consume a little more calories than youre burning (which is why you could put on a little bit of fat with the added muscle).