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bkoman
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Cutting Phase + Injury?

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So im ending bulking cycle right now, because ive gained some extra fat and im headed for the beach in about 3 months. Only problem is I noticed last week that shoulder impingement feels like its coming back. During last workout when warming up on Flat DB bench I noticed it started to hurt and thought "hmm well sometimes its a little stiff, i'll finish this light set and maybe that will warm it up for the heavy stuff". So i finish and wait a few minutes and load up adjustable DB's for heavy set. It didn't hurt getting the DB's up but as soon as I lowered them down and went to push up I felt the pain again....not as sore as it was when I had the actual injury over a year ago that took about 6 months to heal but it definately hurt. So i put them down and havent done anything since. Im a muy thai fighter and we do push ups alot and they dont hurt which is good and also where question is: Will doing pushups during cutting phase and laying off the heavy weights for chest exercises compromise the muscle i've stacked on? Even if im going to failure on the pushups doing about 20+ per set for multiple sets (say 3-5)? Pushups dont make me sore anymore but im wondering if that much work will help maintain. I dont wanna go heavy again because last time i felt shoulder pain like this I kept going because im stubborn and sure enough a few weeks later I went from doing 80's with DB's on the bench to not even being able to do THREE ( Yes thats 3) Pounders....Ya that was a bit of a vent/rant because this situation is very frustrating. timing always seems to be perfect (sarcasm) :roll:

Edit: yes maybe this should be in the strength training section but I figured why not post it in nutrtion? After all a cutting phase is manipulating you're current diet to maintain bulk and lose fat right? :)
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Re: Cutting Phase + Injury?

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pop some wt on you and do push ups with extra load to keep the reps low, you should be able to maintain muscle that way...or standing cable presses

or here's as thought...

your impingement or at least alleviate it (rest does shit, the injury is still there)

get a tennis ball and roll arould the back of your shoulders on it
get a foam roller and do thoracic extensions over it
do the sleeper stretch
activate your lower traps with behind head band pull aparts, wall slides and prone trap raises
activate your serratus anterior with scap push ups nand elbow against wall push off and slides

lay off all painful movements (i.e. bench and shoulder presses) and do seated rows 8 x 8 along with other upper back and arm work for upper body and hammer the lower body and core

no excuses now
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Re: Cutting Phase + Injury?

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Thank you for the response Swanso. I gave it about a weeks rest and when I went to lift today I started off with warmup weight and had no pain....so I bumped a little and had no pain so I kept it there. The weight I used was about 80% of max weight. It feels okay and the rest did it good, and im going to jusst steadily climb way back up again.

I guess I got lucky with it this time.

Thanks again
~Rick
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I guess I got lucky with it this time.
well until you do it again

do what i posted and take the luck out of it

i knew you couldn't stop bench presses, no one can even if it means being out of pain

oh well
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Re: Cutting Phase + Injury?

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Oh i'll definately do as you said, please don't think I disregarded your post I appreciate the help and advice because after all I did come on here looking for it. But i'll also continue to bench but at lighter weights for a while and do the exercises you suggested.

Thought i'd clear that up - Didn't wanna make myself look like an .

Thanks again,
Rick
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stick to db presses and one's that don't hurt

also load up the push ups as suggested

think about it

when you do a push up you lift 60% of your bodyweight

so say you weigh 200pds youd lift 120pds each push up

this means that to get the same stimulation (80's x 2 = 160pds) all you need to do is strap on 40pds

i've done ring push ups with 50kgs strapped to me before so 40pds or 18kgs or so should be doable...good for the core too
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