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Starlet's workout

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Hi again,

I've been given a new weights routine since I last posted here and wanted to ask what people's thoughts were:

Monday, Wednesday & Friday
10 mins rowing machine to warm up
3x8 reps squats - 12 kilos
3x8 reps hamstring curls - 60 kilos
2x12 reps Chest Press - 30 kilos
2x10 reps Delts - 20 kilos
2x12 reps Flys - 30 kilos
2x12 reps Shoulders - 30 kilos
2x8 reps Ab crunches on swiss ball
2x30 sec plank

Monday - Friday
25km bike ride (I ride to and from work)

Meal Plan
7.30am x2 weetbix, low fat milk & banana
10am Vita Weets with Peanut butter or celery/carrots with hummus
12.30pm Tuna & Avocado on 2 slices wholemeal bread or baked beans on toast
3pm Protein Shake with low fat milk
4.30pm Piece of fruit
7pm Dinner - Any protein with salad, veg or sometimes pasta
Snack - fun size chocolate bar or something sweet :)
Oh and I drink 2.5 litres of water throughout the day.

So... what do you think of routine? I want to tone up....everywhere.
Do you think weights routine will do the job?

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Starlet
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if they're machine exercises then it's good
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starlet wrote:
Monday, Wednesday & Friday
3x8 reps squats - 12 kilos
3x8 reps hamstring curls - 60 kilos
2x12 reps Chest Press - 30 kilos
2x10 reps Delts - 20 kilos
2x12 reps Flys - 30 kilos
2x12 reps Shoulders - 30 kilos
2x8 reps Ab crunches on swiss ball
2x30 sec plank
This is all over the place.

Hamstring Curls with 5x the weight of Squats. If the Squats are Freebar, then maybe switch to Smiths, to be able to increase potential weight used. The weight discrepancy is too much, so the other option is switch the Curls for Lunges, as then you'll have to cut the weight down, to something similar to the Freebar stuff.

Doing Delts inbetween Chest Press and Flyes is no good at all. Shoulders are Delts, so that doesn't have any meaning at all. That explains nothing, about what's being done.

You might be overtraining Delts, and you're using varying reps on exercises. You should still use the same reps on every muscle group. No point using differing ones for different groups. Most muscles should only differ in the amount of weight tolerance, based on size of muscle. Intensity of exercises used could be pretty much the same, so for example 8 reps or 10 reps, on every muscle, with every set, unless you were doing some kind of Pyramid style perhaps, where you alter weight and reps per set, but I did that years ago and found it pretty dissatisfying.

So frankly bin this workout and ask someone for a better one.

Personally I'd like that workout to at least include some Deadlifts, with those Squats as well, if there is adequate equipment to do that.
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Thanks Boss man!

I use the small gym at work, there is a trainer there but I don't think she is very experienced :?

The squats are smiths, today I increased the weights to 20kgs. I think I could do more but I wanted to make sure I was OK with that before going up... which brings me to next question - when is it OK to increase weights? Should you increase them when you feel it is easy or should you do the routine for a few weeks first?

I didn't do delts today, after reading your comments, I actually think I was overworking delts cause they've been quite stiff and sore (not the normal muscle soreness you get from exercise either). Here is what I did this morning:

10 mins rowing
3x8 Squats = 20kgs
2x20 Backward Lunges = 10kgs
2x12 Chest = 30kgs
2x12 Flys = 30kgs
2x12 Shoulders = 30kilos
2x8 Tri's on bench
2x8 Ab Crunches on swiss ball
2x8 Ab leg lifts
2x30 second Planks

What would you recommend a 'good' workout for me should consist of? I know it might be a little difficult to create a workout for someone you've never seen but I think it would probably be better than getting another workout from the trainer at gym. :oops:

Thanks again Boss man, it's very much appreciated.

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Starlet :)
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Increase when you're confident.

The thing I used to do is, if I was doing something like 6 reps on a set, I'd get up to 9, then increase, because certainly on exercises where you were using both Arms or Legs at once in tandem, I knew putting the same small amount on, could get me back to 6 reps again.

If I was doing something involving dumbbells and alternating the working Arm or Leg, then maybe go up to about 11-12 reps approximately, as I would have to be mindful, that increasing weight with something like a Machine, Bar or two handed Cable, distributes the weight 50/ 50, onto or via both working Limbs / areas, but the same weight increase per dumbbell is then effectively using double the weight and that's not good.

To simplify. If you add something like 2lbs onto an E-Z Bar, you're splitting the 2lbs evenly with both Arms. If you do that increase with Dumbbells you get 2lbs per arm, not 1lb, like you would with a Bar.

So in most cases if it's an exercise with a tandem movement of two limbs, then 3-4 reps can be the amount you go up by, before adding a little more weight, but if you do alternating limbs, best to go up on a starting rep range, by 5-6 reps each time, before increasing.

As for a routine for you, I'd suggest incorporating certain movements.

Squats

Lunges

Deadlifts

Chest Press

Bent Over BB Rows

Skullcrushers

E-Z Bar Curls.

Planks

You only need to do the exercises with 8-10 reps, but if you're new to this, then try a simple formula, to help you adjust.

Small muscles like Biceps, Triceps and Delts, go for the lightest Dumbbells / Bar.

For bigger ones, go double that to start with.

Big muscles, smallest possible increase each week.

With small muscles, increase every two weeks, again as small as possible, as if you do it every week like big ones, you'll hit a rep max very quickly, especially on something like Delts, so you'll be doing potentially too much on small muscles, within 3-4 weeks.

Once you've been lifting for 6 weeks, to get used to it, then you could maybe go for a little more intensity.

Initially, go for 2 sets of 8-10 reps per muscle, except Planks, where you do 2 sets of 30 seconds, but each week add 5 seconds on. Giving yourself 15 seconds rest between both.

In 6 weeks, you'll be up to doing 2 x 1 minute on planks, touchwood.

For small muscles have a 1 minute rest period, for bigger ones, 90 seconds.

When you hit the 6 week period, and you're going close to rep maxes on all muscles, go for 3 sets of each, but for Planks, keep it at 2 x 1 minute, with 15 seconds between.

After a week of getting used to 3 sets on exercises, then you can start to make small increases again on what you lift.

Hopefully that all makes sense :)
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Boss man is there anything fitness/ diet related that u dont know ? Very impressive sir.. :D
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Thanks so much for your post Boss man, you've been a great help!
Just to make sure I have understood it correctly... here's what I plan on doing on next weights day (Friday)

Squats = 3x8-10 20kgs
Lunges = 3x8-10 20kgs
Deadlifts = 3x8-10 20kgs
Chest Press = 3x8-10 20kgs
Bent Over BB Rows = 3x8-10 20kgs
Skullcrushers = 3x8-10 10kgs
E-Z Bar Curls = 3x8-10 10kgs
Planks = 2x 30 seconds
Abs on swiss ball = 2x8

Does this seem OK?
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Sorry Boss man, i just re-read your post and i need to start on 2 sets of everything i posted above. Increase weight in small increments and then as i hit rep max (which i'm assuming means as many as i can do - or the most reps needed for the exercise?) - move it to 3 sets right?
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Yes rep max, means as much as can pretty much be handled.

Bonnie yes there are things I don't know. Mainly because I don't know them yet, or in relation to exercise, have never tried, because I didn't feel the need to.
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Awesome! Thanks again Boss man :D

glutes are so sore today from increasing squats and doing lunges yesterday.
Riding on the way to work today was a struggle but I made it - w00t!

Looking forward to Pilates today at lunch to stretch out sore muscles.

I'm going to write out new weights routine and take it to the gym with me tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes.

Cheers
Starlet :)
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So new weight routine is going well. It feels like it's working muscles in a much better way than before.

I can see legs have started to tone up (finally!!) from all the riding, weights and healthy eating YAY!
Seeing results really does help you stay motivated.

Today I didn't ride to work, instead I tried to run on the treadmill and did 1.6kms plus 800m as a warm up/down. Running has never been one of strong points but if I can manage to run consistently for 2kms I'll be happy; I'm doing first triathlon in February :D

Cheers
Starlet :P
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Oh.. I forgot to mention skullcrushers!!
I tried to do them with 10kgs and could not do 1 so I dropped to 5kgs and I still didn't feel like I could do it without hurting myself so I just did it with the bar :oops:
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Hi guys,

Thought I would update journal.
The Christmas/New Year break meant I wasn't as consistent with workout as I'd like to be but I still managed to stay active. I went swimming at the local pool and did laps, a bike ride here and there and a weight session so it wasn't all drinking & junk food :P

I've been able to increase the weights on (almost) everything, here's routine now:

Squats = 1x10 20kgs 1x8 30kgs 1x6 40kgs
Lunges = 1x10 20kgs 1x8 22.5kgs 1x6 25kgs
Deadlifts = 3x10 30kgs
Chest Press = 1x10 30kgs 1x8 40kgs 1x6 50kgs
Bent Over BB Rows = 3x10 20kgs - still find these ones a bit of a struggle
Tricep Dips = 3x10 reps
E-Z Bar Curls = 1x10 10kgs 1x8 20kgs 1x8 20kgs
Planks = 2x 45 seconds
Abs on swiss ball = 2x8

What are your thoughts on the way I have changed routine? I now increase weights on each set but decrease reps with some exercises.

I have really noticed the change in legs in the last month. They feel stronger and definitely look more defined which I am very happy with, seeing results is a great way to motivate me. One thing I am concerned about is knees... I'm not sure whether it's because of the way cleats are placed (I have clipless pedals on pushie) or if it's the fact that I haven't been doing reverse lunges correctly but knees are quite sore and feel like they are warm when I touch them.. kind of like a burning sensation (more left knee which makes me to think it could be from push bike). I didn't ride in to work today, thought I would give knees a rest but today is weights day so I will be doing squats - think I might skip the lunges or maybe drop the weights. Has anyone had a similar experience to this?

Cheers
Starlet :)

EDIT: Today I did 40kg deadlifts!
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starlet wrote:EDIT: Today I did 40kg deadlifts!
Good Job :wink:

How many days do you do your weights? If it’s 3 times a week…
Instead of having squats and lunges the same day.. have it separated?
Ex: Monday – squats, Wed – Lunges, Fri – Step up? That’s just an idea…
Also… After your workouts.. it is important to stretch!!!...
Try to do a light one before a workout and do the deep one after so you don’t strech with cold muscles.
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Nokie173 wrote: Good Job :wink:

How many days do you do your weights? If it’s 3 times a week…
Instead of having squats and lunges the same day.. have it separated?
Ex: Monday – squats, Wed – Lunges, Fri – Step up? That’s just an idea…
Also… After your workouts.. it is important to stretch!!!...
Try to do a light one before a workout and do the deep one after so you don’t strech with cold muscles.
Thanks :D

Yes, I do weights 3 times a week - I'll give your suggestion a go.
I do end with a deep stretch but must admit I don't do any stretching before hand but I do warm up with 5 minutes of rowing - not sure if that counts.
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