Weight Gain and Cardio?
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Weight Gain and Cardio?
Hey All, I was just wondering, I have always tried to gain weight although at the same time, i play football and run 4x a week and then 2 more times at the gym. Is all this running affecting gaining weight? Any tips if it is affecting it
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yes
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stop it
wts 3 - 4/week and cardio 2/week but if playing football then if ytou're playing 2 games a week and/or training you shouldn;t need anymore cardio on top of that
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stop it
wts 3 - 4/week and cardio 2/week but if playing football then if ytou're playing 2 games a week and/or training you shouldn;t need anymore cardio on top of that
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Sometimes, and your case may be one of them, you need to take in calorie-rich foods. I did that in college as I was very active.
Peanut butter sandwiches between meals; ice cream, sweets, etc. If you are burning that many calories it may not be possible to eat enough "good foods" to meet your caloric requirements.
Just note that once you stop doing all this you will have to adjust your eating habits or you will blow up like a balloon.
Peanut butter sandwiches between meals; ice cream, sweets, etc. If you are burning that many calories it may not be possible to eat enough "good foods" to meet your caloric requirements.
Just note that once you stop doing all this you will have to adjust your eating habits or you will blow up like a balloon.
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I'm with Packard on this one. If your sports stuff requires that much running, it may be time to go up on calories. When I was a teenager I basically ate everything in sight due to football training.
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I agree here also. Is all this running due to football? I remember our conditioning was position dependent. If you can trade some of your running sessions for power training. best friend is a conditioning coach for a football team and they lift 4 times a week. Focus on total body power moves like cleans, dead lifts, military press, squats, bench press, plyo drills and tire flips. Try to separate weight training from cardio by at least 4 hours. Prolonged cardio lowers testosterone and that's the opposite of what you want.
Lastly, besides increasing calories to meet your needs make sure you eat breakfast e.g. oatmeal, 2 whole eggs + 2 whites, and fruit. Post workout (within 30 minutes)drink 16oz lowfat chocolate milk with creatine added in. This is what the big boys do in the NFL. During your off season you should focus on strength and power movements (they are not the same) and speed training, again on alternating days. You can add cardio as the season approaches.
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Lastly, besides increasing calories to meet your needs make sure you eat breakfast e.g. oatmeal, 2 whole eggs + 2 whites, and fruit. Post workout (within 30 minutes)drink 16oz lowfat chocolate milk with creatine added in. This is what the big boys do in the NFL. During your off season you should focus on strength and power movements (they are not the same) and speed training, again on alternating days. You can add cardio as the season approaches.
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You should substitute (or add) some "accelerations" to avoid injuries in play.icehawk wrote:Hey All, I was just wondering, I have always tried to gain weight although at the same time, i play football and run 4x a week and then 2 more times at the gym. Is all this running affecting gaining weight? Any tips if it is affecting it
You should always train your muscles the way you intend to use them.
Football requires rapid accelerations for very short distances. The movements are forward, backward and to the sides. You should incorporate some training to that effect. Accelerate and run (full speed) for 10 to 20 yards and then stop. Repeat to the sides, and backwards. Do several repeats trying to accelerate as quickly as possible. You should be able to get your pulse rate up doing this. Start out easy for the first few workouts and increase the intensity as you progress. This will help prevent hamstring pulls, rib pulls, etc.
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The key is in fact to increase calorie consumption, but you should get it from good sources. I disagree with Packard on getting added calories from sweets, ice cream, etc. Those are, for the most part, empty calories. They may pack on lbs., but those lbs. are the result of sugars turning into a fatty pastes on top of your muscles and are nearly impossible to get rid of when you want to tone (especially when you're older). Peanut butter, on the other hand, is a great way of adding to your caloric total. Some other beneficial high-density foods are; cheeses, pastas, potatoes, nuts, and perhaps the best of all - avocados. A single avocado has roughly 300 calories and, not to mention, tastes like the future. Avocados do have a high percentage of fat but they are essential fats that are actually quite complimentary to your muscle building goal. And if you aren't already supplementing with protein shakes, GET SOME!
You are definitely running a bit too much. I say limit your running to what you do in football and DO NOT do cardio at the gym. Use that extra energy for more reps when hitting those weights.
You are definitely running a bit too much. I say limit your running to what you do in football and DO NOT do cardio at the gym. Use that extra energy for more reps when hitting those weights.
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It might not be possible to take in sufficient calories from high value foods. A case in point is parents giving infants and very young children low fat milk products. The child is growing and burning energy at a rate that would exceed the intake of calories from that low calorie diet.
A child growing is an ideal model for a weight lifter.
A child need sleep.
A child need rest.
A child needs calories and protein.
A child needs play (exercise).
These are all the same things a weight lifter needs. It may not be possible, cost effective or reasonable to take in 6,000 calories a day with all high-value foods. Pasta, ice cream, chocolate, etc. may be just the calorie-rich foods that are required. (Remembering that most people have a limited capacity to consume foods--unlike the hot dog eating contestants--most people stop eating when "full".)
So where did I get the 6,000 calorie/day figure? Young, competitive atheletes can burn that and more. When I was mountain climbing the rule was, "First thing in the morning eat a good breakfast. Upon completion of the breakfast commence upon lunch. Stop eatin lunch when it is time for dinner." (In other words we ate all day long. At the end of a 2 week climb I typically would lose anywhere between 15 and 20 pounds.)
Other atheletes burn similar calories. I recall a Olympic "Close up and perstonal" feature on a young olympic swimmer. They followed her around all day from her first workout at 4:30 in the morning, during her school day, her evening training, etc. In every scene where she was not training or eating a regular meal she was eating a "snowball", "ringding", toasted honey bun, bagel with cream cheese, etc. There was not one scene where she was walking between classes where she was not noshing on some sweets. And yet she was a tiny pixie of a girl.
The O.P. is a young athelete training hard. Maybe not as hard as the olypians, but hard enough to require high calorice foods. I doubt he will be able to get all that from high protein foods, nor does he need all that protein--which would stress his liver to process. Eating more protein than you need for growth is probably ill advised.
A child growing is an ideal model for a weight lifter.
A child need sleep.
A child need rest.
A child needs calories and protein.
A child needs play (exercise).
These are all the same things a weight lifter needs. It may not be possible, cost effective or reasonable to take in 6,000 calories a day with all high-value foods. Pasta, ice cream, chocolate, etc. may be just the calorie-rich foods that are required. (Remembering that most people have a limited capacity to consume foods--unlike the hot dog eating contestants--most people stop eating when "full".)
So where did I get the 6,000 calorie/day figure? Young, competitive atheletes can burn that and more. When I was mountain climbing the rule was, "First thing in the morning eat a good breakfast. Upon completion of the breakfast commence upon lunch. Stop eatin lunch when it is time for dinner." (In other words we ate all day long. At the end of a 2 week climb I typically would lose anywhere between 15 and 20 pounds.)
Other atheletes burn similar calories. I recall a Olympic "Close up and perstonal" feature on a young olympic swimmer. They followed her around all day from her first workout at 4:30 in the morning, during her school day, her evening training, etc. In every scene where she was not training or eating a regular meal she was eating a "snowball", "ringding", toasted honey bun, bagel with cream cheese, etc. There was not one scene where she was walking between classes where she was not noshing on some sweets. And yet she was a tiny pixie of a girl.
The O.P. is a young athelete training hard. Maybe not as hard as the olypians, but hard enough to require high calorice foods. I doubt he will be able to get all that from high protein foods, nor does he need all that protein--which would stress his liver to process. Eating more protein than you need for growth is probably ill advised.
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Eating too much protein can cause Kidney Stones, as well as possible Hematuria, (Blood in the urine), from the Kidney Stones, and the Nitogen conversion to Uric Acid, could contribute to Gout.
Most people could probably be perectly fine going to 1.2g Protein per lb, and not exceeding 1.5g max.
Plus as well some Amino Acids like Glutamine and Phenylalanine, are two I know to be Neurotransmitters, that affect Brain activity, and indirectly other physical functions. So not having too much daily Protein is a good thing, especially for the Brain.
Most people could probably be perectly fine going to 1.2g Protein per lb, and not exceeding 1.5g max.
Plus as well some Amino Acids like Glutamine and Phenylalanine, are two I know to be Neurotransmitters, that affect Brain activity, and indirectly other physical functions. So not having too much daily Protein is a good thing, especially for the Brain.
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So if you need 6,000 calories a day and you weight 200 pounds and you've already taken in 300g of protein, you would want to take in the balance of the calories as calorie-rich food? That is point. Even assuming you could actually consume that much protein rich food it would not be either cost-effective or healthy.Boss Man wrote:Eating too much protein can cause Kidney Stones, as well as possible Hematuria, (Blood in the urine), from the Kidney Stones, and the Nitogen conversion to Uric Acid, could contribute to Gout.
Most people could probably be perectly fine going to 1.2g Protein per lb, and not exceeding 1.5g max.
Plus as well some Amino Acids like Glutamine and Phenylalanine, are two I know to be Neurotransmitters, that affect Brain activity, and indirectly other physical functions. So not having too much daily Protein is a good thing, especially for the Brain.
brother-in-law goes cross country skiing (a real calorie burner) and he stays at house before heading out to the hills. We go out to dinner the night before and he scarfs down an enormous amount of pasta, bread and usually veal cutlet or chicken cutlet. But the bulk of the calories are in carbs--simple carbs, not complex carbs. And this is fine because he will be using that food for energy and not for muscle building.
All I am saying is the O.P. can't put on weight so he should add calorie-rich foods for that purpose.