Wrong Program?

dys · Post by **dys** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:56 pm

Hi, I am in the stage of bulking from a skinny stage and I am on Waterbury's TBT training using the sample workout from t-nation. On the 3rd day of each weak the program has me doing sets of 3x15 and on the second day 3x8. question is, what is the purpose of this huge deload, and should I another program such as a good upper/lower split?

RK19 · Post by **RK19** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:18 am

the programme has strength,hypertrophy and endurance rep schemes. hence the highish rep days.

dys · Post by **dys** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:51 am

so in lamence terms i should go for a good upper body split to focus more on the strength gains?

RK19 · Post by **RK19** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:11 am

theres no reason you couldnt gain strength in that programme, how long you been at it? its not a good idea to work purely for strength every workout anyway(in opinion)

thekid24 · Post by **thekid24** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:00 pm

-If you're gonna use a pre-written program, don't tinker with it.

-As RK said, I wanna know how long you've been doing it.

-You might be forgetting diet which is key to bulking.

-If you want to bulk up and gain strength, I'll advice you take a look at Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe.

dys · Post by **dys** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:50 pm

I am finished with week 3, and i am aware diet is key but i also know that low reps + heavy weight = good so I am asking if i should bother with this program because of the high rep scheme.

clem · Post by **clem** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:14 pm

in opinion that program is more of an intermediate type program. I would check out stronglifts http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5- ... g-program/ its a good beginning program (similar to starting strength) and free.

*edit diet is HUGE part of gaining weight.. ever heard of GOMAD?

thekid24 · Post by **thekid24** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:16 pm

dys wrote:I am finished with week 3, and i am aware diet is key but i also know that low reps + heavy weight = good so I am asking if i should bother with this program because of the high rep scheme.

well, i read something from dave tate that you can't go heavy all the time with deadlifts and expect to make progress. i would guess it goes for everything else too. so take the program as it is and finish it. i know i made progress from waterbury's ABBH program.

RK19 · Post by **RK19** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:07 pm

dys wrote:I am finished with week 3, and i am aware diet is key but i also know that low reps + heavy weight = good so I am asking if i should bother with this program because of the high rep scheme.

no programme worth doing will be all one set/rep scheme. keep at it and give it your all, youve only been at it for 3 weeks.

dys · Post by **dys** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:25 pm

I have done the waterbury method and i am not doubting him, but it is an 8 week program and it will take up a large chunk of summer training which is why i am concerned.

dys · Post by **dys** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:00 pm

So anyone have any programs they think i would benefit better from?

RK19 · Post by **RK19** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:46 pm

waterburrys hft. you need to follow it religiously though.

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:45 pm

as stated you can't train low reps all the time

also for growth you need higher reps and they help for connective tisuue which is where your strength comes from

a typical case of "the best program is the one you're not doing"

stop doubting it and do all of it

www.uponlinetraining.com

dys · Post by **dys** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:18 pm

alright thanks. also, as a side question, do you think its worth paying an extra 20$ a month just to have a squat rack instead of smith machine? Its the difference between 2 gyms. As far as training goes i am aware that free bar squatting is significantly better, but is it worth the money? I have only 2 months before i go to college which will have everything i need.

kutina · Post by **kutina** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:28 pm

there are also five factors we should take care of when we want to lose weight while still maintance health: 1. excesice regularly 2. drink enough of water 3. sleep enoughly 4. always in a good mood 5. taking the balance nutrition. wishing all of u stay in healthy not just to lose weight but because of take care of health!U may need a guider to help ur plan, I recommend you try P90X , it will guide u in detail.