Hey guys, just a quick question I have about when to consume protein shakes.
At the moment I have:
Training days: a shake mid morning and post-workout
non-training days: a shake mid morning and around 5.30pm (at the time I would usually be ending workout)
I consume protein with each meal any ways, but was wondering if these times are ok!
cheers.
When to take protein
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Protein shakes.
1. Afer workouts.
2. Maybe before bed, as an anti-catabolic thing.
3. Half a one with Breakfast possibly, though not necessary. Half only, as unless you're buying a more expensive one with Vits / Minerals added, havign a whole one at breakfast, could deprive you of certain Micronutrients, food based Protein sources would provide.
1. Afer workouts.
2. Maybe before bed, as an anti-catabolic thing.
3. Half a one with Breakfast possibly, though not necessary. Half only, as unless you're buying a more expensive one with Vits / Minerals added, havign a whole one at breakfast, could deprive you of certain Micronutrients, food based Protein sources would provide.
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That depends on the Protein and what your goals are.
I assume to gain, so I'll talk about that.
Forget it in the morning, unless you really, really don't have time to eat breakfast. In addition, I wouldn't use whey in the morning or at night. Use casein instead.
During workout's using whey have a serving along with maxy waize or similar product as the same goes for post workout.
To be honest, I'd use an all in one. It's a bit easier, and can have great results...Again, choice's are ON's Recovery or Biotest Surge. I favor surge, but have used ON's quite often when I am to lazy or forget to order it online.
I'll be submitting an article to Shapefit soon. It will be all about pre/post workout nutrition...I'll discuss it further at that time.
I assume to gain, so I'll talk about that.
Forget it in the morning, unless you really, really don't have time to eat breakfast. In addition, I wouldn't use whey in the morning or at night. Use casein instead.
During workout's using whey have a serving along with maxy waize or similar product as the same goes for post workout.
To be honest, I'd use an all in one. It's a bit easier, and can have great results...Again, choice's are ON's Recovery or Biotest Surge. I favor surge, but have used ON's quite often when I am to lazy or forget to order it online.
I'll be submitting an article to Shapefit soon. It will be all about pre/post workout nutrition...I'll discuss it further at that time.
Okay this post isn't meant to sound rude or defensive.
Also Casein is good at night, but it then means someone buying Casein and Whey, and they might not want to spend money on two products.
Plus it can cause a little bloating for some. Realistically there is virtually no real benefit, except for about another 3 hours of anti-catabolic action. Possibly a slight potential increase in levels or duration of GH release.
The only realistic difference in how Whey might be used at night, would depend on it being Concentrate, Isolate or if it had Carbs in it.
As for Casein in the morning I politely disagree. I don't see a point to that, expect if people were having things like Low Fat Cheese, Yoghurt or Milk on Cereal. Casein is low on Micros same as Whey, so substituting one type of shake for another, makes little sense.
I certainly would agree about no whole Whey shake, unless you don't have time to eat, but I still think somebody could have half, if they find the idea of things like Chicken, Turkey Eggs etc etc, a bit daunting.
They would still be getting Micronutrient intake, from things like the Carbs and Fat sources they had with it anyway, from food.
For people who are a little confused, that should say Waxy Maize. Not trying to be rude by that correction.efitnessnyc wrote: During workout's using whey have a serving along with maxy waize or similar product as the same goes for post workout.
Also Casein is good at night, but it then means someone buying Casein and Whey, and they might not want to spend money on two products.
Plus it can cause a little bloating for some. Realistically there is virtually no real benefit, except for about another 3 hours of anti-catabolic action. Possibly a slight potential increase in levels or duration of GH release.
The only realistic difference in how Whey might be used at night, would depend on it being Concentrate, Isolate or if it had Carbs in it.
As for Casein in the morning I politely disagree. I don't see a point to that, expect if people were having things like Low Fat Cheese, Yoghurt or Milk on Cereal. Casein is low on Micros same as Whey, so substituting one type of shake for another, makes little sense.
I certainly would agree about no whole Whey shake, unless you don't have time to eat, but I still think somebody could have half, if they find the idea of things like Chicken, Turkey Eggs etc etc, a bit daunting.
They would still be getting Micronutrient intake, from things like the Carbs and Fat sources they had with it anyway, from food.
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Boss Man wrote:Okay this post isn't meant to sound rude or defensive.
For people who are a little confused, that should say Waxy Maize. Not trying to be rude by that correction.efitnessnyc wrote: During workout's using whey have a serving along with maxy waize or similar product as the same goes for post workout.
No worries, coffee cup may have been empty at that time
Also Casein is good at night, but it then means someone buying Casein and Whey, and they might not want to spend money on two products.
Plus it can cause a little bloating for some. Realistically there is virtually no real benefit, except for about another 3 hours of anti-catabolic action. Possibly a slight potential increase in levels or duration of GH release.
It's actually about 5-6 hours longer. Amino levels spike at the 3ish hour mark and decline from there over the next 2-3ish hours. Whey spike's amino acids typically 40-50 minutes after consuming.
The only realistic difference in how Whey might be used at night, would depend on it being Concentrate, Isolate or if it had Carbs in it.
Whey shouldn't be used at night...at all imo. Not even mixed with cottage cheese
As for Casein in the morning I politely disagree. I don't see a point to that, expect if people were having things like Low Fat Cheese, Yoghurt or Milk on Cereal. Casein is low on Micros same as Whey, so substituting one type of shake for another, makes little sense.
Typically correct, having plain casein with water is silly. You would make a super shake!
Example:
1/2 cup mixed berries
1 serving greens + or a variation of. (typically Orac value over 5000)
2 kale leaves
Handful of walnuts
1 serving favorite casein powder
5 ice cubes
water (just enough to mix)
I certainly would agree about no whole Whey shake, unless you don't have time to eat, but I still think somebody could have half, if they find the idea of things like Chicken, Turkey Eggs etc etc, a bit daunting.
I agree, but remember, a plain whey shake is silly, must be beefed up with additional items...
They would still be getting Micronutrient intake, from things like the Carbs and Fat sources they had with it anyway, from food.
