Unexpected Weight Gain

specialk75 · Post by **specialk75** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:35 am

Okay, trying to clean up abs. They're beginning to show, but not nearly as much as I would like.

I was at 173 when I started diet, a week ago. Weighed myself two days after staring the diet still 173. Plausible for sure. But I weighed myself today and I was 176, which seems very odd because I am averaging just under 1800 calories a day, which I believe is far below caloric burn rate per day. So I am a bit confused. average calorie breakdowns are C=191g, P=154g, F=44g. Oh yeah, the scale is not electric, and it was zeroed out correctly each time I used it.

Other information:
1. Introduced Fresh Veggies into diet 2 days ago

2. Introduced Fresh Fruit into diet 2 days ago

3. Sodium was out of control for first 5 days, 4500mg/day, that's why I introduced 1. and 2. into the diet. That and other changes cut sodium per/day to 1600mg for last 2 days.

4. I eat Whole Grain Bread, Eggs, Natty PB, 99% Fat Free Turkey, milk (1%), Broccoli, Apples, Oranges, Carrots, Celery and Oatmeal w/ Splenda and cinnamon. Also drink 30 or 40 oz of H20/day.

5. Started taking Creatine at the same time I started the diet. I use 100% White Grape Juice when I take the creatine.

6. I work out every other day, abs twice a week. The days I do abs I interval train for about 10-12 minutes prior to exercising.

I guess question is why the weight gain. Is it the water consumption? Or am I possibly retaining water with the creatine? Anyways, if anybody has any advice I would be glad to hear it. Thanks,
6-pack Noob

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:36 pm

- this is why you need a body fat reading, wt might be a muscle increase but how do we know?
- under 1800cal's a day??? even if you dfo get abs, you'll have them for 1 day, eat a proper meal and they'll be gone again...unles you're willing to starve yourself for the rest of your days....
- if leaning down then carb intake should not be higher then protein
- at 175pds you should be on aat least 2200ish cal's a day broken up into 33/33/33 then sseeing how you go from there..if you need to do anything drop carbs but REPLACE the cal's from them evenly with protein and fats
- you mean you never eat veggies and fruit???
- don;t worry about sodium, just don;t add salt/sodium to anything...sodium is the least of your worries
- what about chicken, beef, pork, fish, tuna etc???...you need a more variety of food then that
- creatine?? what for?
- if you're doing any crunch/twist or leg raise you'll never get there
- possible water with creatine so i ask again, why?

specialk75 · Post by **specialk75** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:17 pm

Don't really want to starve myself, this is true.

I guess I might be overcompensating for eating pretty poorly during the semester. I have pretty much worked that off , but I bet I still have at least another 10lbs or so to go, maybe more.

Yeah, you're right the creatine isn't going to help with that few of calories. I guess I was hoping to make workouts a little more effective, that was thought process anyways.

The food is limited right now due to economic situations...waiting for school financial aid loan to come in

That will be only for another week or so, then I can broaden diet. Unfortunately I would only eat veggies covered in butter or cheese and I to be honest I very rarely ate fruit. So I am making a concerted effort to eat more "natural" fruits and veggies. What are you're thoughts on dairy, should I avoid? I have seen conflicting opinions, 1 saying that they will cause you to bloat, thus losing your ab definition, and then there are those who say its fine.

I am a bit perplexed by the crunch/twist and leg raise statement. I am not disagreeing with you at all, I just thought those are viable ab exercises. Explain.

I appreciate you responding, Thanks!

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:23 pm

- drop 5kgs of actual fat and you'd be right, i wouldn;lt think anymore, you want something sustainable
- wanna make your workouts more effective? lift heavier and drop any single joint exercises you're doing
- fruits and veg are the way to go...learn to eating "boring", it's healthier (hmm good title for an article maybe...)
- dairy is fine but be aware of carbs, usually they're packed with them...it can make one feel bloated, maybe looked bloated but it's indivualised...i'd say those who bloat are little lactose intolerant
- from your picture the muscles are already there, you just need lean down a little

read this:

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I am a bit perplexed by the crunch/twist and leg raise statement. I am not disagreeing with you at all, I just thought those are viable ab exercises. Explain.

I appreciate you responding, Thanks!

specialk75 · Post by **specialk75** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:01 pm

Thanks a lot for the link to the other page. You answered questions.

reddy · Post by **reddy** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:21 am

focus on cardio, diet is perfect and by the way what kind of creatine you are using, as creatine monohydrate causes bloating so you should prefer creatine ethyl ester (CEE), and hit those abs hard six pack abs

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:54 pm

CEE is controversial.

Reports came out some years ago, saying it might not pass Gut Enzymes, and if so, the Enzymes could strip off the Esther Bond leaving you with a fancy Monohydrate.

Some say a Kre-alkalyn manufacturer made the claims, to scare people off CEE, as CEE was about 12-18 months newer, but I haven't seen anything to back this theory.

So if you're not sure it's all it was made out to be, go for something like Kre-alkalyn if you've got a bit more bunce to spend.