Well I didn't say that I read people advocated ZERO carbs, I just said that I've read on here to AVOID eating too many carbs.
A lot of diet plans that you'll look at online will not include a laundry list of carbs on them. point is that a lot of people don't really understand how truly frustrating it can be being a hardgainer. There are people out there like myself who need to going above and beyond your typical weight gaining diet. Then again, I was recently diagnosed with NF1 and there are a lot of digestive problems associated with that condition, so tthat could also be playing a role.
I will try switching to water though with shakes. Thats actually how I started drinking them and then realized they just taste amazing with the whole milk.
Protein poweders for hardgainers???
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I don't know how people decide that they are "hard gainers", and I don't know how people not knowing a workout can declare someone not a hard gainer and simply not a hard trainer.
You have to be smart about training or you will waste a lot of time and effort and you will end up being disappointed.
The basic concept of training is that you have become essentially an infant, with all the requirements for growth that an infant has.
You need to "play", i.e., to work out.
You need to sleep (and infants sleep a lot) and you will need to also.
You need to rest between play periods--so you need to make sure that you are fully recovered from your previous workout or your progress will either stall or you will regress.
And finally you need good nutrition.
When you are training you are growing. It is just like becoming an infant all over again.
You need to address all of these or else your progress will be substandard.
Like Boobster I prefer food to protein drinks (though I sip one during workout). I don't look at the cost, but rather the pleasure of having a nice dinner. You still have to live while you are training. And that means your meals must be 'livable" too. You can get plenty of protein from conventional foods if you plan well. Only the elite lifters really, really need all the supplements in opinion. Some great body builders did not have these available to them and they excelled. Google: Frank Zane or Steve Reeves for examples of body builders who did not have these supplements available.
See: http://www.frankzane.com/
see: http://www.iballer.com/malecelebs/reevessteve/index.htm
You have to be smart about training or you will waste a lot of time and effort and you will end up being disappointed.
The basic concept of training is that you have become essentially an infant, with all the requirements for growth that an infant has.
You need to "play", i.e., to work out.
You need to sleep (and infants sleep a lot) and you will need to also.
You need to rest between play periods--so you need to make sure that you are fully recovered from your previous workout or your progress will either stall or you will regress.
And finally you need good nutrition.
When you are training you are growing. It is just like becoming an infant all over again.
You need to address all of these or else your progress will be substandard.
Like Boobster I prefer food to protein drinks (though I sip one during workout). I don't look at the cost, but rather the pleasure of having a nice dinner. You still have to live while you are training. And that means your meals must be 'livable" too. You can get plenty of protein from conventional foods if you plan well. Only the elite lifters really, really need all the supplements in opinion. Some great body builders did not have these available to them and they excelled. Google: Frank Zane or Steve Reeves for examples of body builders who did not have these supplements available.
See: http://www.frankzane.com/
see: http://www.iballer.com/malecelebs/reevessteve/index.htm
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Hard gainers
Like someone else said EAT TRAIN SLEEP REPEAT it will take you a while to figure out what your body best responds to, you also have to look at what kind of body type you have if you are very ectomorphic (which means skinny can eat what they want and not gain, if you didnt know ) usually you respond better to training lower reps high weight, less cardio. You will grow with time be patient.
Well I'd blame it on a typo, but I just read "boob" instead of "boop".amatlack wrote:lolkatiesuarez wrote:Packard wrote:
Like Boobster I prefer food to protein drinks (though I sip one during workout).
I'm not trying to pick on you, but I think she prefers to be called Boopster.
I would not normally think someone would be a "boopster" as it brings to mind someone with chronic pnemonia. "Boobster" does not bring to mind pneumonia... (ah, I'm getting myself in trouble again...).
But apologies.
I didn't think of dearest Betty. I thought of "boop disease". I would guess that most would think of Betty. I'll try to keep this straight in the future.amatlack wrote:I always think Betty Boop. But I might be way off too.Packard wrote:Well I'd blame it on a typo, but I just read "boob" instead of "boop".amatlack wrote: lol
I would not normally think someone would be a "boopster" as it brings to mind someone with chronic pnemonia. "Boobster" does not bring to mind pneumonia... (ah, I'm getting myself in trouble again...).
But apologies.
See: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bronch ... ns/AN00307