*** I am fed up of Smoking *** - help needed

[mrintech]

friends,

due to smoking health is constantly going down and down and cheeks are shrinking/drowning


plz suggest how to improve health and avoid shrinkage of shrinks?

what type of exercise i must do to increase stamina and clear lungs

regarding diet i am a vegetarian and can eat egg (eggitarian)

plz suggest best diet and exercises as a beginner

i am 20 and have 5 ft 11 inch height

earlier i had 12 inch muscles.... but now it has been reduced due to excessive smoking...... around 9 inch

smoking really suck hard....

plz help

plz

[Boss Man]

Are you for real?

You lost 3" of muscle because of that, and you're only 20. So I suppose people who have, (but shouldn't have), done it all their life for about 60 years, have muscles the size of a new born baby?

No offense but that sounds whack, big time.

P.S. there's no such thing as an Eggitarian to knowledge, you're either Vegitarian, Carnovorous, which is not an ideal diet lifestyle for humans, or Omnivorous, better I think than Vegitarian, but not essential.

This has got to be a complete and utter windup surely.

[bigiz123]

maybe you made miscalculations on the whole muscle inch thing, but yes muscle bellies can shrink if u stop lifting for a LONG time, your strength will be the same but the muscles will shrink, i dont think smoking is the problem, just perhaps a lack of exercise/maybe diet as well. as for the whole lung thing, your 20 right?? so try to get out there and do some cardio, i used to smoke and i did cardio everyday and trust me it will pay off, no one said itd be easy but you will do yourself a big favor by doing so. also as for the muscles, start lifting intensely and up the protein intake and trust me they will get bigger

[Boss Man]

If he's for real, and I'm still not convinced, then he may have miscalculated like you say, but probably hasn't lifted. I'd be worried about someone who's 20, and only has 9" Biceps. I'm no Physiologist, Doctor, or anything like that, but I'd expect 9" Biceps would probably be on someone about 15, who is sedentary.

Unless he has seriously crappy diet habits, and is heading for Anorexia. I don't think even things like Motor Neurone or Muscular Dystrophy, would yield such severe muscle wasting, in a few short years, even with an average Protein / calorie intake.

[mrintech]

maybe you made miscalculations on the whole muscle inch thing, but yes muscle bellies can shrink if u stop lifting for a LONG time, your strength will be the same but the muscles will shrink, i dont think smoking is the problem, just perhaps a lack of exercise/maybe diet as well. as for the whole lung thing, your 20 right?? so try to get out there and do some cardio, i used to smoke and i did cardio everyday and trust me it will pay off, no one said itd be easy but you will do yourself a big favor by doing so. also as for the muscles, start lifting intensely and up the protein intake and trust me they will get bigger

dude i think i miscalculated the size of bisceps..... may be it was mistake while measuring....

let me know what is cardio?

and here at India those who are vegetarian and eats egg only are known as eggetarians....

probably you are not familiar with the words....

[mrintech]

If he's for real, and I'm still not convinced, then he may have miscalculated like you say, but probably hasn't lifted. I'd be worried about someone who's 20, and only has 9" Biceps. I'm no Physiologist, Doctor, or anything like that, but I'd expect 9" Biceps would probably be on someone about 15, who is sedentary.

Unless he has seriously crappy diet habits, and is heading for Anorexia. I don't think even things like Motor Neurone or Muscular Dystrophy, would yield such severe muscle wasting, in a few short years, even with an average Protein / calorie intake.

dude i think i miscalculated the size of bisceps..... may be it was mistake while measuring....

let me know what is cardio?

and here at India those who are vegetarian and eats egg only are known as eggetarians....

probably you are not familiar with the words....

[Boss Man]

Okay, no offense meant . I just though you were messing with us big time. I've seen a lot of that before, hence why I was a bit defensive.

At least you're not one of those people that says, I'm 14 and can bench 400lb's, I'm super strong .

Cardio is usually what you do when you work aerobically. There perhaps is a more scientific pinpoint description of it, but it usually is where someone works to the point, where the Heart and Lungs are exercised to a pretty high level.

So things like running, Jogging, Skipping etc etc all count as Cardio, as most people would see it.

You would definitely be advised to do this in your situation, but for you I would exercise caution given your history.

I would suggest possibly something like 10 minutes light Cardio work, 6 times a week, to adjust the Heart and Lungs to its new work ratio, and then at the end of each month, increase it by 5 minutes a time.

This could be restricted to moderate walking, until you hit the end of month 4, and you've been working for 30 minutes a time, then you could try something a little more strenuous I think, but that's a while away.

I think that would be an adequate and steady start for you, as you need to take it softly, softly, because of what you've done, and what your body is going to be like.

10 minutes 6 times a week won't be too hard on you, but I would say if possible, do it first thing before eating, as walking with any extra food weight inside of you, could make you tire a bit quicker, if you push yourself.

You should be walking quite quickly, don't walk like you're admiring the view, that won't do much, but don't walk like you're late for something, or you'll burn out.

It's going to be a combination of pace and being sensible, but you should be able to manage that, for about 10 minutes a day, and if you get home before 10mins, just walk down the other end of the street and back, to make the time up. You'll soon get used to walking a fixed route.

Tell us how you get on after the first 1 or 2 times, so we know something like this is not doing anything it shouldn't.

[mrintech]

Okay, no offense meant . I just though you were messing with us big time. I've seen a lot of that before, hence why I was a bit defensive.

At least you're not one of those people that says, I'm 14 and can bench 400lb's, I'm super strong .

Cardio is usually what you do when you work aerobically. There perhaps is a more scientific pinpoint description of it, but it usually is where someone works to the point, where the Heart and Lungs are exercised to a pretty high level.

So things like running, Jogging, Skipping etc etc all count as Cardio, as most people would see it.

You would definitely be advised to do this in your situation, but for you I would exercise caution given your history.

I would suggest possibly something like 10 minutes light Cardio work, 6 times a week, to adjust the Heart and Lungs to its new work ratio, and then at the end of each month, increase it by 5 minutes a time.

This could be restricted to moderate walking, until you hit the end of month 4, and you've been working for 30 minutes a time, then you could try something a little more strenuous I think, but that's a while away.

I think that would be an adequate and steady start for you, as you need to take it softly, softly, because of what you've done, and what your body is going to be like.

10 minutes 6 times a week won't be too hard on you, but I would say if possible, do it first thing before eating, as walking with any extra food weight inside of you, could make you tire a bit quicker, if you push yourself.

You should be walking quite quickly, don't walk like you're admiring the view, that won't do much, but don't walk like you're late for something, or you'll burn out.

It's going to be a combination of pace and being sensible, but you should be able to manage that, for about 10 minutes a day, and if you get home before 10mins, just walk down the other end of the street and back, to make the time up. You'll soon get used to walking a fixed route.

Tell us how you get on after the first 1 or 2 times, so we know something like this is not doing anything it shouldn't.

really quitting smoking is very hard dude....

let me know one thing that 2-3 cigg. a day at starting will not effect anything naaaaaa....

slowly and slowly i will quit......

[Boss Man]

I can't answer your question, except to say that not stopping altogether, may make your physical improvement take longer.

To give a definite answer is not something I can do. I'm not a Doctor, all I can say, is what I just did say.

[bigiz123]

if you really want to stop, then just do it. dont make what appears to be a half hearted attempt and just STOP smoking altogether, perhaps try going for a walk whenever you get urges to smoke, youve got to get more serious

[Boss Man]

You're young, so the best thing to do is keep the money you'd normally spend on it, and save it for things like Music, or other stuff, or maybe to spend if you go on a holiday sometime.

Or if you decide you want to find a girl, you could spend some of the savings on her, occasionally.

Cold turkey is your best bet. People who start it like you do, and this is not meant to offend you, have a slight weakness.

If you had been more mentally, or emotionally strong, you'd have said no, I don't think I'll try that, it's bad for your health.

If you want to prove you're strong enough to try getting fitter, and stick to it, not start to slip up after 2-3 weeks, and end up after 6-8 months, doing Cardio 1-2 times a month, then cold turkey proves that mental strength is there, and you're learning to use it.

Wanting to do Cardio is good, but trying to slowly cut something bad out, probably makes cutting it out harder, because you try to do it less, but then when do you go even lower?

When do you make that choice to have 1 a day?

After 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 2 months?

When do you take that decision to go without altogether? You make it harder by prolonging the cut off point, where you say, no more I'm through with this darned habit.

Cold Turkey, means making that choice, a cold hard choice, getting rid of the habit right there and then, and toughing it out.

If you can tough it out without caving in, and lighting up supposedly just the once, to get you through a "moment", you prove you can be tough enough to do the Cardio long term, and then build the Cardio up to more challenging levels.

This lifestyle is better than the one you've been living, but if you don't control your mind, and believe you can give this a lot of yourself, you could end up giving 80%, and then soon 70%, until you just can't be assed doing it much anymore, like Cardio or any exercise form becomes a bore, and a nuicance, when it shouldn't.

So I would definitely agree with Bigiz. Find the stuff you've got left, get rid of it all, so you can't be tempted to have it.

When you go into shops selling it, ignore them. Nobody gives you free stuff lke that, you have to want to ask for it, and pay money for it, it's a mental process, so change that process.

How enticing can they be in the packet, when you can't see them. You then can't want them as much.

It's surely not like when you go into a shop, and see all those packets with company names on them, you think, ohh I feel special, look at all these packets of crud I can have, waiting to be lit and enjoyed.

Just basically walk into a shop, and if you see those packets, have a different image. Imagine the packets are filled with something horrible, you wouldn't dare put in your mouth.

Cold turkey will be tough dude, and at 16, it's a tough ask, but starting the Cardio, and just binning all the stuff you like to have, and telling yourself, I won't by more packets, could take you another step closer to being a man.

If you can turn round to someone and say, I haven't had one of those dirty little suckers for 4 weeks now, you can feel proud of yourself.

We can help you to rediscover your healthy future, while you're still very young, and won't need as long to correct your health mistakes, and start to improve more.

If you need to come here every day, and tell us of times when you felt like having a light but didn't, and perhaps what you did instead, fine, tell us, I won't mind, or even if you tell us once a week, I don't mind.

It could prove you've got what it takes, to stand up and say I wanted to do something bad again today, but I didn't, and I feel good about that.

So yeah, don't say I'll only have 2 or 3 a day, have 0 a day, ditch what's left, and be strong about not buying more, then you'll only have to worry about friends offering you one, but if you're strong enough, you'll say no to that too.

Then if your friends get offended, that you didn't want a light, and think you're getting dull or no fun, they will prove they aren't real friends, if they want to encourage you to mess your health up, and they'll probably never understand your Cardio goals, or think anything bad will happen to them because they light up.

When you're 14, 15, 16+, nobody who trys it thinks it will mess them up, or they wouldn't try it.

You can do it man yeah. You can be strong, and have 0 a day from now until forever.

Trust us, we won't B.S. you on this okay .

[bigiz123]

couldnt have said it better myself boss man

[mrintech]

You're young, so the best thing to do is keep the money you'd normally spend on it, and save it for things like Music, or other stuff, or maybe to spend if you go on a holiday sometime.

Or if you decide you want to find a girl, you could spend some of the savings on her, occasionally.

Cold turkey is your best bet. People who start it like you do, and this is not meant to offend you, have a slight weakness.

If you had been more mentally, or emotionally strong, you'd have said no, I don't think I'll try that, it's bad for your health.

If you want to prove you're strong enough to try getting fitter, and stick to it, not start to slip up after 2-3 weeks, and end up after 6-8 months, doing Cardio 1-2 times a month, then cold turkey proves that mental strength is there, and you're learning to use it.

Wanting to do Cardio is good, but trying to slowly cut something bad out, probably makes cutting it out harder, because you try to do it less, but then when do you go even lower?

When do you make that choice to have 1 a day?

After 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 2 months?

When do you take that decision to go without altogether? You make it harder by prolonging the cut off point, where you say, no more I'm through with this darned habit.

Cold Turkey, means making that choice, a cold hard choice, getting rid of the habit right there and then, and toughing it out.

If you can tough it out without caving in, and lighting up supposedly just the once, to get you through a "moment", you prove you can be tough enough to do the Cardio long term, and then build the Cardio up to more challenging levels.

This lifestyle is better than the one you've been living, but if you don't control your mind, and believe you can give this a lot of yourself, you could end up giving 80%, and then soon 70%, until you just can't be assed doing it much anymore, like Cardio or any exercise form becomes a bore, and a nuicance, when it shouldn't.

So I would definitely agree with Bigiz. Find the stuff you've got left, get rid of it all, so you can't be tempted to have it.

When you go into shops selling it, ignore them. Nobody gives you free stuff lke that, you have to want to ask for it, and pay money for it, it's a mental process, so change that process.

How enticing can they be in the packet, when you can't see them. You then can't want them as much.

It's surely not like when you go into a shop, and see all those packets with company names on them, you think, ohh I feel special, look at all these packets of crud I can have, waiting to be lit and enjoyed.

Just basically walk into a shop, and if you see those packets, have a different image. Imagine the packets are filled with something horrible, you wouldn't dare put in your mouth.

Cold turkey will be tough dude, and at 16, it's a tough ask, but starting the Cardio, and just binning all the stuff you like to have, and telling yourself, I won't by more packets, could take you another step closer to being a man.

If you can turn round to someone and say, I haven't had one of those dirty little suckers for 4 weeks now, you can feel proud of yourself.

We can help you to rediscover your healthy future, while you're still very young, and won't need as long to correct your health mistakes, and start to improve more.

If you need to come here every day, and tell us of times when you felt like having a light but didn't, and perhaps what you did instead, fine, tell us, I won't mind, or even if you tell us once a week, I don't mind.

It could prove you've got what it takes, to stand up and say I wanted to do something bad again today, but I didn't, and I feel good about that.

So yeah, don't say I'll only have 2 or 3 a day, have 0 a day, ditch what's left, and be strong about not buying more, then you'll only have to worry about friends offering you one, but if you're strong enough, you'll say no to that too.

Then if your friends get offended, that you didn't want a light, and think you're getting dull or no fun, they will prove they aren't real friends, if they want to encourage you to mess your health up, and they'll probably never understand your Cardio goals, or think anything bad will happen to them because they light up.

When you're 14, 15, 16+, nobody who trys it thinks it will mess them up, or they wouldn't try it.

You can do it man yeah. You can be strong, and have 0 a day from now until forever.

Trust us, we won't B.S. you on this okay .

Dear Boss Man....

You are really informative and kind hearted....

You really make me feel that smoking really sucks and i promise that I will leave it within a month.... true promise....

I will feel great if i have a friend like you.... so will you plz join me at Orkut!

profile link is: http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=8 ... 8460584852


Plz do join me... i will feel really gr8

and will not disturb you atlest with non-sense things/spam.... do join me yaaar.....

Wishes and thanks again

[Boss Man]

Not a month dude, I meant giving it up right now, as of today, not in a month. Delaying the act of giving up makes it harder to give up.

Though your offer of joining your site sounds intruiging, I must politely decline. Any further discussion about your situation, would be best conducted on this site, where myself and others can help you.

[bigiz123]

yeah seriously i dont kno how many times we can say it, NOW NOW NOW. stop making excuses and excuses, also i must politely decline your offer as well but come on, it sounds to me like you have no motivation whatsoever, and all i can say is this is last time saying it.. STOP SMOKING NOW, it may be easy for me to say this because i do not get addicted to things like smoking/drinking (dont ask me why i just dont), but STOP SMOKING.. if u cant do it here and now, well im done trying to convince you