i think i got it, but

[bigiz123]

i do cardio first thing in the morning now! but im wondering if im doing enough to lose fat ( i jog 5/6 of a lap around the track and at the remaining 1/6 i sprint, and i do this for 4 laps, then i jog 1 more completely), so the question i have is, would this be enough for me to lose fat?? if so, is it ok if i do this every morning even though its still sprinting?? and finally, why do i not feel as sweaty as i do when i perform cardio immediately after working out? i just dont feel like i sweat as much, although i do still sweat

[swanso5]

hope your not doing this before breakfast...during wts you are already warmed up and have depleted most if not all of youtr energy stores so the body needs to work harder to keep going which is why you sweat more...for fat loss i even think that there is a difference in "sweating"...it's a bit hard to explain and this is just what I've found but when i sweat heaps i generally think that i'm not burning fat and i'm just losing fluid (which i am) but i know I'm burning fat when i have a "hot sweat" like when you walk into a warm room from out in the cold...it's hard to explain but i know what i mean...i would start with 2 mornings and as fat loss stalls, add another sesion...don't start off with too much or what are gonna do to get more resuklts if your already doing 5 morning sessions and 3 - 4 other sessions, do more???? if food iis in order 3 x wts and 2 x cardio sessions are plenty

[bigiz123]

what do u mean?? i shouldnt do cardio before breakfast??? but why, isnt that the best way to burn fat?

[swanso5]

it's the best way to lose muscle, not fat...you should at the very least have a protein shake before it...it doesn't really matter when you do exercise, as long as you just do it...it's calories in vs calories out so if you eat more than you put out (cals), you'll increase wt...if you put out more than what you take in, you'll lose wt...that being said the wt you should be losing should be fat

[mins]

if exerising first thing in the morning, the body will only use muscle as fuel if there is no fat left on the body...for someone who ha aroun 12-15% body fat etc, it is beneficial to do cardio on an empty stomach - i speak from experience

M

[sameey70]

if exerising first thing in the morning, the body will only use muscle as fuel if there is no fat left on the body...for someone who ha aroun 12-15% body fat etc, it is beneficial to do cardio on an empty stomach - i speak from experience

M

If you exercise first thing in the morning, it is best to have a snack consisting of carbohydrate and a little protein. After an overnight fast, glycogen (carbohydrate) stores are somewhat depleted. Without replenishing them, the body resorts to burning protein for energy if carbohydrate stores are not adequate. Even the leanest person has enough fat to run for days, but carbohydrate is the limiting factor and it's needed in order for fat to be burned. Fat is never the only source of fuel used by the body unless you are in a severe state of starvation. Fat burning produces ketones in the blood which changes the PH balance and causes acidosis. Not a good thing.

[Boss Man]

One thing I would point out at this point is, if someone were to consume something like Glutamine, before sleeping, wouldn't that elevate Glycogen stores, back to a more regular level, as that's one of Glutamines abilities?

Or would Glutamine, just reduce Glycogen depletion during sleep, as a couteractive measure?

Obviously I'm throwing a variable in here, which the person may or may not be currently factoring into their daily schedule.

Should something like that, affect the scenario, then it's pheasible to say, the early morning nutrition intake you mentioned, might possibly be altered slightly, to reflect the higher Glycogen level.

I'm also a little confused by this comment.

"if exercising first thing in the morning, the body will only use muscle as fuel if there is no fat left on the body"

Presumably the person isn't talking about a 0% bf level.

[swanso5]

i think they're referring to no glycogen in the morning so you might use muscle as fuel after fat store deplete...really it's cal's in vs cal's out and when you train might have a 5% bearing, if that, on your rsults...as long as you do it something will happen and besides without some form of amino acids and / or carbs before training, your int will shit house anyway

[sameey70]

i think they're referring to no glycogen in the morning so you might use muscle as fuel after fat store deplete...really it's cal's in vs cal's out and when you train might have a 5% bearing, if that, on your rsults...as long as you do it something will happen and besides without some form of amino acids and / or carbs before training, your int will shit house anyway

Fat stores are never depleted. If glycogen stores are depleted or very low, the body will use protein for energy.

[sameey70]

One thing I would point out at this point is, if someone were to consume something like Glutamine, before sleeping, wouldn't that elevate Glycogen stores, back to a more regular level, as that's one of Glutamines abilities?

Or would Glutamine, just reduce Glycogen depletion during sleep, as a couteractive measure?

Obviously I'm throwing a variable in here, which the person may or may not be currently factoring into their daily schedule.

Should something like that, affect the scenario, then it's pheasible to say, the early morning nutrition intake you mentioned, might possibly be altered slightly, to reflect the higher Glycogen level.

I'm also a little confused by this comment.

"if exercising first thing in the morning, the body will only use muscle as fuel if there is no fat left on the body"

Presumably the person isn't talking about a 0% bf level.

Glutamine is used to replenish amino acids, not glycogen.

[Boss Man]

Oh right. I do use Glutamine, and in original research, I read somehwere it sped up Glycogen recovery post workout.

Which is why I said what I did, as I thought it had an effect on Glycogen

I know it assists in Protein synthesis, as one of its functions, which would kind of tie in with your comment about Amino acids, as it is one itself.

Additional.

I've just been looking into this further, and all I could find was a connection to Glutamine and Glycogen in Rats, except on sites that sell Glutamine, where they all seem to mention the Glutamine, Glycogen connection I mentioned .

I've been using Glutamine for about 3-4 years now, and I'm pretty sure I never sourced any research from such sites, as I never trust the accuracy of supplement info, from sites linking to on-line stores, or indeed said stores.

I usually research from independant sites, stating the research is done by a knowledgeable person, or independant scientist, and have advocated such research methods before to people.

However I respect your comment about it not being so, so I'm happy to defer to that statement, as I respect your judgement.

[tyciol]

Have some simple carbs before you go running. Running before breakfast might burn more fat, but it burns more muscle too. Also, since your glycogen stores are starting to get depleted, your endurance will be limited.

It's better to eat first, so you can do harder cardio.

[sameey70]

Have some simple carbs before you go running. Running before breakfast might burn more fat, but it burns more muscle too. Also, since your glycogen stores are starting to get depleted, your endurance will be limited.

It's better to eat first, so you can do harder cardio.

Simple carbs are absorbed into the bloodstream more quickly than complex carbs which cause insulin levels to spike resulting in rebound hypoglycemia (crash). You may want to try complex carbs (starch) prior to running since they are released more slowly and sustains energy for a longer period of time. Simple carbs are good after running for quick replenishment. Running before breakfast does not necessarily burn more fat. The presence of carbohydrate is needed to burn fat. When glycogen levels are low, the body is prone to burning predomiately protein for energy than fat.