Supplement Cycles

Andrew113 · Post by **Andrew113** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:19 am

Does anyone know of any good cycles/stacks to build muscle??? i have been working out for awhile without taking any supplements except protein and i feel like i am at a dead end. Any suggestions????

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:18 pm

Up carbs and up the weight.

Andrew113 · Post by **Andrew113** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:42 pm

i take in enough carbs and plenty of protein throughout the day, and i havnt gain any strength or muscle within the last 6 months, i train very intense 6 days a week.

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:10 pm

Well that's your problem right there. If you are training INTENSE 6 days a week you won't gain strength or muscle.

How man carbs are you taking in daily? Protein?

Andrew113 · Post by **Andrew113** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:26 pm

i dont count carbs and protein intake but i strickly eat high protein foods and whole grain and try to keep fat intake low. I eat two full meals a day including 2-3 protein shakes that have 60g+ protein each...

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:08 pm

Eat. More. Solid. Food. Get more calories if you want to gain more muscle. Start counting your carbs, guarantee you get less than you should for a bulk.

vamp · Post by **vamp** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:30 pm

2 meals a day? Tex your at about 5 or 6 aren't you? Me I'm between 6 and seven.

6 days on weights? Your body is not gunna grow like that. You grow outside the gym because of what you do in the gym. The rest is as important as the lift! If not more so.

Cheers

Andrew113 · Post by **Andrew113** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:34 pm

I only work one body part a day chest, bicep and tricep, back, shoulders, legs. i get plenty of rest between working each muscle.

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:00 pm

vamp wrote:2 meals a day? Tex your at about 5 or 6 aren't you? Me I'm between 6 and seven.

6 days on weights? Your body is not gunna grow like that. You grow outside the gym because of what you do in the gym. The rest is as important as the lift! If not more so.

Cheers

I'm bulking so I pretty much never stop eating

vamp · Post by **vamp** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:23 pm

oh, more body part splits. So you do chest, then the tris/bis then back.

so tri's are recovering from chest workout the day before, bi's are recovering during back routine so can't lift as heavy for good growth. If you did an upper/lower/cardio-sprint type split I think you would find better results, still workout 6 days and get better rest for your muscles. Just a thought for you to chew on with the more meals your starting to eat.

Cheers

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:53 am

Eat smaller meals. DO count your calories to some extent.

Add a bit more Fat from suggested sources, or other possible ones like Almonds and other Nuts, Avocado, Low Fat Cheese, Fish, Soybeans etc etc.

Don't have protein shakes with 60g Protein in them, it's a waste of Protein. As suggested you only need about 30-40, and you could have one with high GI comple Carbs in it, but the only time you need shakes are post-workout, possibly before bed, and maybe 1/2 a scoop with a proper breakfast, if you find getting good Protein levels at Breakfast a bit tricky.

If you want to do bodypart stuff change it up.

So do things like Chest / Tris. Back / Shoulders. Legs / Bi's or something like that, so you're not doing 6 workouts a week, and possibly overtraining.

vamp · Post by **vamp** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:26 am

Andrew, sorry if we sound harsh and critical of you, we don't mean to beat you down or ridicule you but help make sure you are doing what's best for you.

Sometimes we tend to jump a little hard when we see someone doing less than the ideal especially when they have so much potential and motivation. I hope you take our words seriously but take the tone with a grain of salt.

Cheers