on overhead press.Tried working around it with standing dumbell presses and some seated dumbbell presses.
Came back to it about 3-4 weeks later and it's the same as when I left or maybe even worse.I put it in the same order as before say after DL/squat,a row and a horizontal push.I am lifting heavier on those lifts but shouldn't that all be relative.All other lifts are progressing is this a cause for concern??I know it's supposed to be the lift that will reach plateau 1st but the weight doesn't seem to be proportionate to other lifts.
i'm doing the full body workouts sooooooo if you tell me to lay off of it for a while what do I substitute for vertical push.
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either of these may be happening:
1 - doing them too late in your workout so too much fatigue builds up an you can never increase the wt...if it's a priorty then do main max effort 1st on 1st day of the week after a rest day
2 - too much combined shoulder press / bench press in the same cycle so shoulder joint is taking a beating with limited recovery time...if you wanna increase shoulder press limit bench press for that phase and vice versa
3 - technique
4 - exercise selection...you could put in some push presses and o lift type exercises that use legs to "overload" the muscles...another way is to use a flat bench db press wt and each week increase the bench incline but keep the same wt so eventually you'll shoulder press your bench press wt..it won't work out perfectly but it will still work in the end i'd say
5 - not lifting heavy enough...the more reps you are doing each week then the less you'll progress...it's easier to increase 1rm each session then 10rm
1 - doing them too late in your workout so too much fatigue builds up an you can never increase the wt...if it's a priorty then do main max effort 1st on 1st day of the week after a rest day
2 - too much combined shoulder press / bench press in the same cycle so shoulder joint is taking a beating with limited recovery time...if you wanna increase shoulder press limit bench press for that phase and vice versa
3 - technique
4 - exercise selection...you could put in some push presses and o lift type exercises that use legs to "overload" the muscles...another way is to use a flat bench db press wt and each week increase the bench incline but keep the same wt so eventually you'll shoulder press your bench press wt..it won't work out perfectly but it will still work in the end i'd say
5 - not lifting heavy enough...the more reps you are doing each week then the less you'll progress...it's easier to increase 1rm each session then 10rm
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barleycorn428
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It's not a priority.
I was doing a steady 4x6.
2 weeks ago I got them all in but the last 3 times I've been like 6/4/6/4 and then a 6/4/5/5 but today was a 6/4/4/4.I've been alternating it with something else so I'm getting the full 2 min rest.Today it came after DL singles(12).I did pull ups alternating with dips 3/F(only because I can only do like 3 pull ups and maybe 7-8 dips all bodyweight so that is failure.then went to do the OH presses and that was the result.I actually had about 4 days off because working OT so I thought the extra rest(which seemed to help the DL)would also carryover to the press but it didn't.
I was doing a steady 4x6.
2 weeks ago I got them all in but the last 3 times I've been like 6/4/6/4 and then a 6/4/5/5 but today was a 6/4/4/4.I've been alternating it with something else so I'm getting the full 2 min rest.Today it came after DL singles(12).I did pull ups alternating with dips 3/F(only because I can only do like 3 pull ups and maybe 7-8 dips all bodyweight so that is failure.then went to do the OH presses and that was the result.I actually had about 4 days off because working OT so I thought the extra rest(which seemed to help the DL)would also carryover to the press but it didn't.