Cardio before or after breakfast
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Cardio before or after breakfast
I've read several different entry's/article/forum posts saying that cardio in the morning (in case 30-45 minutes of biking) actually lets you burn more fat than if you did it after breakfast. Does anyone know for certain if its better to do it before or after?
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Re: Cardio before or after breakfast
*Cracks knuckles*Ragnarxxx wrote:I've read several different entry's/article/forum posts saying that cardio in the morning (in case 30-45 minutes of biking) actually lets you burn more fat than if you did it after breakfast. Does anyone know for certain if its better to do it before or after?
This one is going to require a bit of typing:
The idea behind fasted cardio is that since you have been fasting for around 8 or so hours your body is now low on glycogen and insulin. So when you go and jog for 30 mins, your body is "running on fumes."
This state is EXTREMELY catabolic, and thus is thought to directly fuel weight loss. Notice I said weight loss, underlined it, and then wrote a redundant sentence afterward to emphasize it, and not fat loss.
You will be catabolic, and thus your body will be breaking itself down for fuel. Sadly, not everyone's body is tweaked the same way, so what decides how much fat/muscle and the ratio of this is found in your genetics.
On the other end of the spectrum, people will argue that this state is TOO catabolic. Your body will indeed be freaking out since it starving, low on available fuel, and is resorting to breaking down tissue to fuel itself. Your body is not in a happy place, to save myself a paragraph, and this is why your fasted cardio should not be at a HIGH heartrate, and not be for extended periods of time. A fasted brisk walk for 30-45 mins is termed acceptable if you refuse to avoid fasted cardio sessions.
Personally, fasted cardio has been working for me, and many of friends who compete in bodybuilding (are around 5% during precomp and never hit 14% during bulks with lifts that put mine to shame) SWEAR by it during their cut cycles. Others do cardio in the evening.
There are articles that also claim there really is no difference between fasted and non-fasted cardio. Basically saying that if you fast and burn muscle in the morning, your sneaky body will simply burn weight for the cardio, and then laugh in your attempts to trick it by using the glucose in your body for the rest of the day (after you eat). And if you do cardio with food, it will burn your glucose during the cardio, and the fat during the day.
To be honest this makes the most sense, since I am sure we have all discovered our bodies are far too smart to be tricked with little things like this. (Carbing for example... your body just turns proteins/fats into carbohydrates)
In the end, all we really have is what other people tell us, and what we experience. Some people have excellent gains on creatine, others just pee it out. Every body is different, and will respond differently to stimulis.
Which is why the best advice anyone can possibly give you in regards to a question like this is:
Do what works for you.
bbérs usually consume adequate cal's and also have enough musclke in the first place to sustain it through fasted cardio, most regular trainer's are no where near any of those
also fat loss is more a product of intensity more so than anything else either during the actual exercise or from elevated metabolism from epoc effect post training
also fat loss is more a product of intensity more so than anything else either during the actual exercise or from elevated metabolism from epoc effect post training
Carbs and Proteins are sometimes converted to Fat.
Fat is not often converted to Carbs, unless you meant energy, which can happen with things like Leptin, where the Leptin burns Fat for fuel, though this process is more redundant in obese people whos bodies can become pretty Leptin resistant.
Also something like Adiponectin can be a player in Fat and Glucose management, however Ghrelin, can convert energy to Fat, but all three are classed as Cytokines, I think largely for the effects they exert on Carbs and Fats.
Carbs can also be converted into Fats, in part by the Pancreas I believe. Though of course the storage into Cells of such substances, is largely controlled by the Isle of Langerhans, the Insulin producer in the Pancreas.
If any Protein was converted to Fat, I would think, it would be facilitated by Trypsin, as Trypsin is a Pancreatic Juice Protease, unlike Pepsin which is a Stomach Acid Protease, although both are obviously responsible for the Proteolytic reaction, needed to break the Amino Acids off the bonds for use, I would say Protein to Fat conversion if occuring, would be more Trypsin connected.
Fat is not often converted to Carbs, unless you meant energy, which can happen with things like Leptin, where the Leptin burns Fat for fuel, though this process is more redundant in obese people whos bodies can become pretty Leptin resistant.
Also something like Adiponectin can be a player in Fat and Glucose management, however Ghrelin, can convert energy to Fat, but all three are classed as Cytokines, I think largely for the effects they exert on Carbs and Fats.
Carbs can also be converted into Fats, in part by the Pancreas I believe. Though of course the storage into Cells of such substances, is largely controlled by the Isle of Langerhans, the Insulin producer in the Pancreas.
If any Protein was converted to Fat, I would think, it would be facilitated by Trypsin, as Trypsin is a Pancreatic Juice Protease, unlike Pepsin which is a Stomach Acid Protease, although both are obviously responsible for the Proteolytic reaction, needed to break the Amino Acids off the bonds for use, I would say Protein to Fat conversion if occuring, would be more Trypsin connected.
alright then. So how do you folks go running/biking in the morning after breakfast? I tried it this morning after having a bowl of cereal and I almost vomited all over neighbors lawn (When I run after a meal the food wants to come back up, but I remember that being pretty normal from back in high school). Is this the reason why people on these forums seem to love oatmeal? Since its mushy it doesn't come back up when doing morning cardio?
By the way, thanks for the responses. I'm not really knowledgeable on the subject and I just don't want to hurt myself or inhibit goals.
By the way, thanks for the responses. I'm not really knowledgeable on the subject and I just don't want to hurt myself or inhibit goals.
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Did anyone read post completely? Seems like you only read the first couple lines.Ragnarxxx wrote:alright then. So how do you folks go running/biking in the morning after breakfast? I tried it this morning after having a bowl of cereal and I almost vomited all over neighbors lawn (When I run after a meal the food wants to come back up, but I remember that being pretty normal from back in high school). Is this the reason why people on these forums seem to love oatmeal? Since its mushy it doesn't come back up when doing morning cardio?
By the way, thanks for the responses. I'm not really knowledgeable on the subject and I just don't want to hurt myself or inhibit goals.
You do not want to exert yourself in morning cardio due to the extreme catabolic state you're in. That was that bit about brisk walking.
you don't have to have a banquet before morning exercise...
option 1 - whole breakfast and wait for it to fully digest then do it
option 2 - have 1/2 of your breakfast, train, then have other half
the intensity of your morning session will dictate what you'll eat and how much..if it is sprints then go option 1...if it's medium speed/duration cardio then go option 2...if it's simply walking then have some fruit (1/2 or full piece, some protein powder and off you go
option 1 - whole breakfast and wait for it to fully digest then do it
option 2 - have 1/2 of your breakfast, train, then have other half
the intensity of your morning session will dictate what you'll eat and how much..if it is sprints then go option 1...if it's medium speed/duration cardio then go option 2...if it's simply walking then have some fruit (1/2 or full piece, some protein powder and off you go
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