calories in and calories out-please explain

cassiegose · Post by **cassiegose** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:58 am

Bossman... So should I not be eating ANY cottage cheese at all? I've cut it way back to only one serving maybe 2 times a week (I alternate between chicken and for meal 5). I understand that its not good to eat excessively, but didn't think it would hurt to eat it ever other day or so... just curious... thanks!

monnie32 · Post by **monnie32** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:25 pm

yes about ..when is a good time to have it? would it be ok to have it during your last meal of the day?

low fat plain yogurt.... should i be eating it during meals 1 & 2 as it still contains carbs?

protein shakes... should those only be consumed after weight training or can you still have it after cardio?

any good "on the run" protein sources?

thanks for the millionth time!

Christopheel · Post by **Christopheel** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:53 pm

monnie32 wrote:yes about ..when is a good time to have it? would it be ok to have it during your last meal of the day?

low fat plain yogurt.... should i be eating it during meals 1 & 2 as it still contains carbs?

protein shakes... should those only be consumed after weight training or can you still have it after cardio?

any good "on the run" protein sources?

thanks for the millionth time!

Well the best thing to do is a little meal during night (drink water before going to bed to when you go pipi take your litle meal that you made before going to bed.) And replace by low fat cheese ... Or any other kind of proteins if you have your night meal.

Shake after HIIT and Workout, after walking to grocery or something no require

If you have have money, a little amount of whey into a lot of water is the best (Or BCAA with little complexe carbs like dextrose or maltodextrin). In fact this is mostly the water that does the job. If you have your Shake the second after your last set then you could only take water during cardio/workout. Don't underestimate the water, it makes miracle

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:23 pm

I just think Low Fat Cheese is better than , and even low Fat , is not quite as good as Low Fat Cheese, (in opinion), as it may have slightly less Saturates, but it also has less Unsaturates, so Low Fat Cheese will give you more Unsaturates which should partly negate some of the Saturates.

Cutting is okay, but I'd still try things like Low Fat Cheese. The less Saturates, means less Nitrogen to Uric Acid conversion, which is good for the Kidneys.

The body does need saturates, well natural saturates, not processed ones obviously, but I just think Low Fat Cheese has a bit more Unsaturate than , so it's slightly favourable.

You've cut back , so tha't okay, but by all means if you think low Fat Cheese might work better for you, then give it a try.

cassiegose · Post by **cassiegose** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:59 pm

Thanks for your help Bossman!

cassiegose · Post by **cassiegose** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:33 pm

Monnieâ€¦. I donâ€™t think there are any fruits or veggies that you should necessarily â€œstay away fromâ€

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:53 pm

Some people might possibly have to stay away from some Veggies, if they have PKU, (Phenylketonuria), as any Vegetable Proteins that contain Phenylalanine, may be a slight issue for people with PKU.

Also spicy Fruits like Chillis, and other Peppers, may be best avoided for some, (temporarily at least), if they have Inflammation of the mouth, like Gingivitis, or inflammation and swelling of the tongue, (Glossitis), as things like spicy foods are potential irritants, and might hinder the bodies ability to recover properly.

Some people can also be born without an ability to produce Fructase, which means they are Fructose intolerant, which can cause digestive issues, and a few other things potentially too.

So some Fruits would need to be avoided in that case.

I also read someone where once that Citrus and Cereals, may contribute to Hyperacidity, because the two Enzymes that break them down compete, Hyperaciditiy potentially causing reduced digestion, possible irritation of the Duodenum, (the digestive section between the Stomach and the Intestines), and also increased Acid Reflux, (GERD), that can cause Heartburn.

Though this was only something I read, (about the Citrus and Cereals), I can't say with any certainty it's a fact.

I don't know of any other reasons for Fruit and Veggies, to be heeded with caution, or avoided, except those, unless you count Fructose utilisation in Diabetics, and also high GI F and V's like Potatos, Parsnips, Dates etc etc, for the same reason.

However in Monnies case, save for the possible Citrus and Cereal interaction, I don't think there would be any problems, as the other mentioned things require an inflammatory response to be triggered, (possibly from things like consumption of very hot foods and drinks, or nutritional defects), or an with F I, an enzymatic deficiency.

monnie32 · Post by **monnie32** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:05 am

i've been seeing a lot of people on shapefit.com recommending to search the waterbury method and do a workout. is there a certain one that one should start with or is there one that you can suggest for women? can anyone give me some more information about these programs?
thanks!

monnie32 · Post by **monnie32** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:36 pm

hey swanso where can i access your meal plan?

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:27 pm

waterbury is great for everyone

go to journal section i'm in there..food has been a little shitty of late though...

monnie32 · Post by **monnie32** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:43 pm

How does this look?

wake up, 1/2 scoop of protein powder then Weights

Breakfast:
bod fortress whey protein powder, other 1/2 scoop (110 cal & 26g protein for 1 scoop)
country kitchen reduced cal. wheat bread, 2 serving
Hard Boiled Egg, 1 large
Morningstar Veggie Sausage Links (2 per serving),
Egg white, 3 serving
Tomatoes2 slice, thick/large (1/2" thick)
Honeydew Melon, 150 grams

Snack:

teddy natural peanut butter 1 tbsp
Apples, fresh, 160 grams

Lunch:

Chicken Breast, no skin, 150 grams
Asparagus, fresh, 150 grams
Peppers, sweet, red, fresh, 1 cup,
Zucchini, 100 grams
Olive Oil, 1 1tsp
some spices for flavor

Snack:

Almonds, 1 oz (24 whole kernels) 164
Cucumber (peeled), 200 grams

Dinner:

Chicken Breast, no skin, 4 ounces
Hard Boiled Egg, 1 large
Spinach, fresh, 1 cup
Tomatoes, 6 cherry
Romaine Lettuce (salad), 100 grams
Onions, raw, 50 grams
Cucumber (peeled), 100 grams
kraft roasted pepper italian with parmesan, 2 tbsp

* currently i am trying to eat btw 1400-1500 calories. i know that i should be eating more calories and then slowly cutting them but i am trying to eat around 1400 calories due to the fact that i have been eating below 1200 calories which then went below 1000 calories for maybe 2 years now. i am trying to metabolism. i got on the scale today and was up to 142 lbs

i know that the scale is not a good way to judge weight loss but i just want that number to go down!! i know that i have completely screwed up metabolism but i dont know how to it now!

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:30 pm

looks good except:

- PROETIN EVERYTIME YOU EAT...NUTS AREN'T PROTEIN
- add fruit to pre wts shake
- you need your metabolism running correctly before you'll lose any wt
- just keep slowly increasing cal's as you go untiul you're where you should be then we'll drop wt
- you've gotta crawl before you can walk

monnie32 · Post by **monnie32** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:28 am

unfortunately i wish it didn't take so long. but i know i did not gain over night so i should not expect to lose over night. who could have thought that eating too few calories would cause gain weight! i sure didn't. anyways, i got rid of the almonds and peanut butter and added 4 oz of chicken and i added an apple to the pre workout meal with the 1/2 shake.

are there any other solid protein sources that i could be adding to meal besides meat? i thought that i could add nuts because it contained some protein even though it was mostly made up of fats. i guess i was wrong. what about low fat string cheese and cottage cheese? any others?

and is there a reason why i am slowly gaining? could it just be water weight?

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:38 pm

I partly agree about the Nuts. Nuts are good for Fats, and other things like Copper, Magnesium, some have Calcium etc etc, but Protein can be a little wanting, unless you eat shed loads, and get about 700+ calories mostly from Fats.

So ideally you can have Nuts, but make sure they're low Salt, and try to boost protein in meals where you have Nuts.

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:31 pm

nuts are fine but not as a sole protein source in one meal...you want 15g at least everytime you eat and to get that much from nuts, you'd have to be an elephant i'd think...keep them in but add some other protein into those meals