How can I get big Big?

queball · Post by **queball** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:08 pm

A couple of years ago I saw Dr. Dre at an awards showing looking like his usual overweight self slumped over in baggy clothes, then I didn't see him for like a year or two, and then out of no where this diesel truck came out for another awards show. question is "What is he taking?" I've been working out for two years and I am still skinny, lifting heavy weights and eating lots of calories, shakes, etc. I'm like the skinniest strong person in gym-which is good in a way. But I want to know what some of these people are taking to get extremely big, quick. I know its not just steroids. There's some other supplements out there. What are they?

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:53 pm

Probably was Steroids. Some do allow for shredding whilst preserving mass, that normally dieting would partly sacrifice.

That's why you can sometimes see 200lb guys with 10%bf, (Steroids), and 200lb guys 18% bf, (possibly natural).

There are other intermediate things people use between cycles, like 6-oxo, but I don't know alot about those. They are some kind of legal hormones, or some such thing.

He might simply have been changing his Steroid regime, and nothing more than that.

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:14 pm

well you don't have millions of dollars to spend on the best trainer money can buy nor the time to train and eat whenever you need to...that's a big factor really....post training and food and we can help you

Christopheel · Post by **Christopheel** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:05 pm

One thing to remember :

You goals must be based on yourself,

I want to deadlift 540 until november, I don't care about the others. Aplly this principle when training and do not worry about others.

and for the factor that affects muscles growth one that we must not forget is genetics ... Some peoples are gifted ( not a lot but they exist) and they will gain a tons of mass when entering seriously weightlifting. One of friend passed from 150lbs to 220 in a year, he's tall and was skinny, he didn't took steroids for sure, but still he could in a future compete as a BBer. One things that make little 180lbs feel safer is that I'm stronger than he does.

But if you are still skinny after 2 years of training, we can help you.

Post your diet and workout plan and we will make you gain weight.

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:01 pm

Something isn't right if your mate gained 70lbs of mass in 1 year, and isn't as strong as you, weighing 40bs more.

guess , (purely based on that story), is he was sill,y enough to start eating like a 200lb guy early on, got loads of calorie to Fat conversion, and got very chubby bulk, or possibly also took some PH's and maybe a Test booster as as well, and maybe a weight gainer with a whackload of bulking calories.

Christopheel · Post by **Christopheel** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:31 pm

Boss Man wrote:Something isn't right if your mate gained 70lbs of mass in 1 year, and isn't as strong as you, weighing 40bs more.

guess , (purely based on that story), is he was sill,y enough to start eating like a 200lb guy early on, got loads of calorie to Fat conversion, and got very chubby bulk, or possibly also took some PH's and maybe a Test booster as as well, and maybe a weight gainer with a whackload of bulking calories.

Well I don't see him without his shirt everyday but he didn't seems to put on fat. For sure he start REALLY skinny so if he gained something like 2-3% of fat or even 5% with the muscles he put on we can't see the fat difference with cloths.

For supplements nothing unusual, something like 300$ of whey and other supps per month (crazy I know) His diet wasn't that good too many supplement to fill the proteins/calories lack and minerals/vitamin too.

But still, unless he's so dumb to even lie to me, he did this naturally.

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:56 pm

Could possibly have been PH'ing though but obviously I don't know. Might have thought you wouldnt approve even of PH's, but being legal, there'd be no necessary change in his attitude or personality, unlike Steroids where you might have to act cagey, and possibly socialise behind others backs, with people who might be potentially very bad.

Christopheel · Post by **Christopheel** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:42 am

Well, I still don't think so, he his and was doing exactly what I was doing, we were following the same line of conduct on diet and training.

We are both not rich, so roids or PH would be too much overpriced for us anyway.

Still, he did a REALLY nice job getting big, natural or not.

Even if I had cycle roids or PH i wouldn't have gained that much weight.

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:26 pm

I wouldn't have thought so. Then again, I wouldn't condone or condem Steroids anyway, regardless of the law, and I don't have issues with PH's necessarily either.