Showing reasoning for going on the V-Diet.

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:52 pm

So I am on the V-Diet right now, just the limiting calories and lifting schedule parts not necessarily the liquids only thing, and this is why. I need to tone up a lot more I think before I go on trip to Peurto Rico, what do you think?

Front relaxed.

http://www.putfile.com/pic/7883476

Back

http://www.putfile.com/pic/7883477

I'm 17 and weight right now is 180-182lbs which is a lot better than 236lbs a year and 3 months ago.

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:11 pm

What the heck is a V diet, it sounds a bit weird?

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:18 pm

http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do? ... 5-009-diet

That is the article.

ballas38 · Post by **ballas38** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:09 pm

i think this gives me a chance to ask this: Diets such as the velocity may help most people have very good results. On the other hand, it is very difficult to follow. So the question is: "The point of getting somewhere is being able to maintain, so you would need to progress with a diet you will be able to turn into a lifestyle. Do you agree??"

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:12 pm

Well I have been on it for two weeks and only slip up is a couple slices of pizza one day.

Christopheel · Post by **Christopheel** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:36 pm

with that kind of shape you don't need V-diet ...

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:46 pm

Christopheel wrote:with that kind of shape you don't need V-diet ...

Then what do you suggest?

Christopheel · Post by **Christopheel** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:07 pm

you want to loose fat ?

2200 cals a day, time your carbs, meat veggies, healthy fats

training, FB workouts and add HIIT every other day ...

But looking at you, you could gain muscles, then after a year or two cut the fat you want, the job will be even more easier !

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:12 pm

- the v diet, get shreded diet etc are all geared towards those who are already lean but want to get superlean so you'd need to be no higher than 10% if that for them to really do justice
- as soon as you start limiting caloris you're in trouble
- as stated full body workouts, HIIT, carb timing is a far better option at this time

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:27 pm

I copied this from t-nation post. If this helps you any let me know.

I am first going to start out by apologizing for all the stupid things I said on this forum, I will actually take what you guys say seriously, I was acting like a dumbass and I am seriously sorry. I started on the v-diet two weeks ago and have stuck to it except for last Friday when I slipped up and had 3 slices of pizza.

I am going to tell the honest truth. I am 17 years old 6' 180-182lbs and I have been lifting since I was 14 doing the basic lifts, squat, deadlifts, and bench press so maxes should be understandable if that is a word. I dropped from 236lbs the past year so I am an FFB. I don't have a video camera to prove and I don't think gym would allow one in the first place. I go to the YMCA. I tested lifts before going on the v-diet and they were....

Bench - 315lbs
Squat - 550lbs
Deadlift - 430lbs

Pics are below

Front relaxed

http://www.putfile.com/pic/788...

Back semi-relaxed

http://www.putfile.com/pic/788...

Wheels

http://www.putfile.com/pic/788...

Arm Flexed

http://www.putfile.com/pic/788...

lift days consist of the following

Day #1: Monday

Pull-up: 10 x 3 weighted
Bench Press: 10 x 3
Squat: 3 x 8
Hamstring Curl: 3 x 6
Calf/Biceps/Triceps exercises: 1 set each 6-10 reps
Ab exercise: A1 4x8 serratus crunch straight to A2 swiss ball crunch until failure.

Day #2: Wednesday

Deadlift: 10 x 3
Rack Pull: 3 x 3-5
Flyes: 3 x 8
Overhead Press: 10 x 3 standing, cleaned from floor
Calf/Biceps/Triceps exercises: 1 set each 6-10 reps
Ab exercise: a1 kneeling cable crunch 4x8, ball exchange double crunch until failure, seated knee ups until failure

Day #3: Friday

Dips: 10 x 3
Rows: 10 x 3
Lateral Raises: 3 x 8
Lunge variations: 3 x 6-8
Calf/Biceps/Triceps exercises: 1 set each 6-10 reps
Ab exercise: a1 pullover crunch 4x10, side bend 4x10, modified russian twists until failure

diet right now is very low calorie 1500 or so.

I am on creatine monohydrate and 100% whey.

goals are to be big and ripped, and strong if that helps.

diet is as follows

Breakfast at 6 - Multivitamin, high fiber/protein cerial, banana

Lunch - deli meat sandwitch

two scoops of whey before working out, one after.

2.5gs of creatine before and after working out.

Dinner - whatever mom is making, 99% of the time has meat which I go for before anything else and I eat until I feel any sort of fullness. mom is one of those people who would feel disrespected if I didn't have her dinner so there is nothing I can do about that.

I know I should be eating 6 meals a day so please help where I can fit certain things in, here is schedule.

5:45 - wake up shower
6 - breakfast
7:25-9 - 1st period computer class can't eat in there, and to go to the bathroom you have to use a pass that gives you extra points on your grade so no eating in the bathroom
9:08-10:43 - I can eat in 2nd period
10:51-12:25 - I can eat in 3rd period
I leave after 3rd for early release then I workout 12:45 until workout is done.

I don't have a job so anything goes after that.

Once again I would like to apologize for being a dick and not taking you guys' advice. You know so much more than me and I was acting like a typical teenager thinking I knew everything.

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:45 pm

- i struggle to beleive a 17yr old could squat 500+ pds, ecspecially at 180pds...you'd be a world record holder but then again i still can't fathom Chris's 400pd deads (it still doesn't look 400 to me!!!!)...not that i don't beleive you though...
- is that one of CW's programs or is it a bit of one and some of another? the worse thing you can do is to mix programs
- otheerwise program looks fine except for a few shitty exrcises that can be taken out (ham curls, calves, bi's, flyes, crunches, tri's, shoulder raises etc)
- 1500 is far too low ecspecially with your training load...you'd be using 500 cal's or do per workout so there's no where near enough cal's left over to recover with, coupled with cal's required for basic function which is 1500ish anyway
- why are you on creatine?
- you need a mid morning fruit and solid protein snack
- add veg and salad to luch
- solid protein and veg meal before training
- cut dinner in half and have 2 meals about 2hrs apart, you'll end up eating more overall which is good
- have breaky as soon as you get uo than shower i'd say
- not aloud to go to the toilet?? what the is that? in that case then have half of your second meal before 1st class than half when it finishes
- no need to apologize

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:06 pm

swanso5 wrote:- i struggle to beleive a 17yr old could squat 500+ pds, ecspecially at 180pds...you'd be a world record holder but then again i still can't fathom Chris's 400pd deads (it still doesn't look 400 to me!!!!)...not that i don't beleive you though...
- is that one of CW's programs or is it a bit of one and some of another? the worse thing you can do is to mix programs
- otheerwise program looks fine except for a few shitty exrcises that can be taken out (ham curls, calves, bi's, flyes, crunches, tri's, shoulder raises etc)
- 1500 is far too low ecspecially with your training load...you'd be using 500 cal's or do per workout so there's no where near enough cal's left over to recover with, coupled with cal's required for basic function which is 1500ish anyway
- why are you on creatine?
- you need a mid morning fruit and solid protein snack
- add veg and salad to luch
- solid protein and veg meal before training
- cut dinner in half and have 2 meals about 2hrs apart, you'll end up eating more overall which is good
- have breaky as soon as you get uo than shower i'd say
- not aloud to go to the toilet?? what the is that? in that case then have half of your second meal before 1st class than half when it finishes
- no need to apologize

-Yeah, I am stronger than I look, I guess I'm just a factory freak.
-No, it is by Shrugart, mixed with CW ab training
-I figured why get rid of the beach muscle exercises when you only do one set
-So I should be eating more to lose fat?
-I'm on creatine so I can maintain muscles while on a low calorie diet.
-What do you recommend for solid protein? I am going to the grocery store tomorrow.
-Can be done easily.
-Can be done.
-Yeah I know its bullshit, what do suggest for a second meal?
-Yeah that was for the t-nation people I was kinda more of a dick to them than to you guys.

And as far as cardio goes, I was doing HIIT every day on the elliptical 10sec sprint 30sec "walk" for 20 mins.

And do you think it would be a good idea to get rid of 10x3 for something more mass oriented?

Christopheel · Post by **Christopheel** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:20 pm

Creatine won't help you maintain muscle, proteins and calories will ...

For swanso when I'll do comp, I'll just tell you name you will google " name" festival sportif ste-marie, you will see lifts, and deads will reach 500 (I am ambicious but let's say 440 lol)

to come back on craetine one word : OVER motherf88ing rated ... There's creatine in meat btw so don't waste too much money

not aloud to the toilet ... that teacher would have an honor finger from me, I,m pretty rude some times ...

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:27 pm

For solid protein could I have some cold cut turkey with a half slice of whole wheat bread?

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:36 pm

I think this is how I am going to do meals.

5:45 have high fiber/protein cerial with banana and multivitamin

7:10 Have half of a turkey sandwitch on wholewheat bread and fruit.

9:10 Have other half of turkey sandwitch on wholewheat bread.

11:00 Have normal deli sandwitch with carrots.

12:30 pre workout meal? Not sure on that one yet. But protein shake and 2.5gs of creatine for sure.

1:30-2:30 Post workout meal? Not sure about that one yet. But protein shake and 2.5gs of creatine for sure.

6:30-7:30 Dinner, whatever mom is cooking again but I will eat very littl of it.

How am I so far? I need help with pre and post workout meals.