Is this OK?

Discuss anything related to dieting, nutrition, recipes and food facts.

Moderators: Boss Man, cassiegose

Post Reply
reymysterio
SOCIAL CLIMBER
Posts: 61
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:44 pm

Is this OK?

Post by reymysterio »

Is this diet ok for me to lose weight?

7.45 am-- Oatmeal sometimes with fruit
1.30 pm-- Egg baguette, fruit salad
4pm-- Whatever mum cooks
7.30pm-- Tuna sandwich / sometime peanut butter sandwich

And also I drink about 1.5 litres of water a day
swanso5
VETERAN
Posts: 10658
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:25 pm
Location: melbourne, australia

Post by swanso5 »

no it isn't

not enough cal's, you'll lose muscle

all you need to do is have 3 x fruit and protein meals followed by 3 x protein, veg and salad meals

start out eating 14 cal's per pd og bodyweight than decrease as required to continiue losing fat

what training plan are you using?
reymysterio
SOCIAL CLIMBER
Posts: 61
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:44 pm

Post by reymysterio »

swanso5 wrote:no it isn't
not enough cal's, you'll lose muscle
But the thing is even when i am not eating enough calories i still am gaining weight. I can feel biceps but it isn't proper visible due to fat
swanso5 wrote: what training plan are you using?
Full body workout: Tuesday,Thursday and saturday:
Bulgarian split squats
Dumbbell upright row
Dumbbell front raise
Dumbbell floor press
Dumbbell hammer curl
Dips

Mondays I go soccer training
Wednesday,Friday and sundays I go on the treadmill for 30 minuters minumum and on the eliptical cros trainer 20 minutes
swanso5
VETERAN
Posts: 10658
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:25 pm
Location: melbourne, australia

Post by swanso5 »

if cal's are too high or tyoo low tou'll gain fat...you need to find the balance to maintain muscle and lose fat, not wt, fat

you may need to change up your training...i would go for 3 different programs for each session of the week...after 6 goes at one program you've adapted to iot so not much will happen after that...

each day use an exercise from each section

deadlift
squat
row
bench press
pull up
shoulder press
core

for each day use a set like this

pair 1 - 4 x 6
pair 2 - 3 x 8
pair 3 - 2 x 15

rotate the pairs through so each pair gets trained with each set/rep scheme...try as best you can to match up the best exercises with the right reps so don;t do havy deadlifts for 15 reps than single leg deadlifts for sets of 6

what days is actual soccer?

do sprints, not shitty cardio
User avatar
Boss Man
SITE ADMIN
Posts: 15458
Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:27 pm

Post by Boss Man »

The biggest hinderance to muscle, and possibly Fat reductions too, is the gap between meals 1-2. You can't go that long between meals, and expect to stay nourished, it's just not going to happen.

When you use up what you eat in meal 1, the body WILL look to other resources for energy, and if muscle is seen as a contingency measure, the body WILL use it.

The spaces between meals 2-4 are better, but as expressed earlier in this thread, calories are not sufficient, and calorie intake is not well placed enough either.

P.S. meal plans should only have words like "sometimes" in, when you have food options, or substitute choices that are comparable, (I.E. 7:30 PM meal), they shouldn't be the option, of whether to add some more calories to an existing meal, like in meal one, in opinion.

You're just calorie cycling, and your Metabolism would benefit from regulated calories per day, not up and down amounts. If you were training for a contest, and ate say 2x the calories for just one day, in a 3-4 month diet period, perhaps as a shock to the system yes, when results are flatlining, (I've read that before, it seems to work), but as you appear to be fluctuating calories first thing, adding and taking away some Fruit sometimes, (as possibly a regular / semi-regular thing), your body is not getting consistant calorie intake, and I think you're not helping yourself, having a potential caloric yo-yo type approach, even if it is with just one meal.

One choice substituted for a similar choice sometimes, yeah, but adding extra food to a meal sometimes, and other times leaving it out, is something I'm not wholey believing of. I think Metabolic functions work better with a regulated calorie intake, that's consistant daily, and it's easier to stick to as well.
reymysterio
SOCIAL CLIMBER
Posts: 61
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:44 pm

Re: Is this OK?

Post by reymysterio »

reymysterio wrote: 7.45 am-- Oatmeal sometimes with fruit
11 am-- Tuna salad baguette
1.30 pm-- Egg baguette, fruit salad
4pm-- Whatever mum cooks
7.30pm-- Tuna sandwich / sometime peanut butter sandwich
is this better?
actual soccer is sundays
swanso5
VETERAN
Posts: 10658
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:25 pm
Location: melbourne, australia

Post by swanso5 »

you definatley don't want to be doing soccer and 60mins on the same ay then...

soccer only than rest
reymysterio
SOCIAL CLIMBER
Posts: 61
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:44 pm

Post by reymysterio »

i ate 5 meals yesterday and exercised on the treadmill, and i gainded 2 extra kg how comes
(Rage)
HIGH FLYER
Posts: 322
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:39 pm
Location: UAE

Post by (Rage) »

Yes, listen to thes guys, they know what they're talking about!
reymysterio
SOCIAL CLIMBER
Posts: 61
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:44 pm

Post by reymysterio »

reymysterio wrote:i ate 5 meals yesterday and exercised on the treadmill, and i gainded 2 extra kg how comes
Forget about this, i easily lost this in the afternoon
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

7.45 am-- Oatmeal
11 am-- Tuna salad baguette
1.30 pm-- Egg baguette, fruit salad
4pm-- Whatever mum cooks
7.30pm-- Tuna sandwich / sometime peanut butter sandwich
is this better?

Also which is better and more effective to burn large amount of calories & fat
Jump rope for 20 min or using the treadmill for 40 mins alternating between walking and jogging
Last edited by reymysterio on Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:12 pm, edited 2 times in total.
reymysterio
SOCIAL CLIMBER
Posts: 61
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:44 pm

Post by reymysterio »

Are Special K Protein Meal Bars(10g of protein in each bar) ok for before and after workouts and snacks
swanso5
VETERAN
Posts: 10658
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:25 pm
Location: melbourne, australia

Post by swanso5 »

- special k for after training
- protein bars never
- fruit, solid protein, veg, salad before training depending what time you train
cancersurvivor
STARTING OUT
Posts: 1
Joined: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:39 am

looking for a weekly diet

Post by cancersurvivor »

I’m looking for a weekly diet I need it to include a lot of fiber less calories and vitamin B. The most important thing is that its foods that will be cheap and can easily be found and or made because I know the sometimes diets include these fancy foods that r expensive or hard to find. I do exercise and run and play soccer but that alone isn’t going to help without a good diet. So if any of you have this diet or know where I can get this exact diet, please let me know.

buy celebrex
Last edited by cancersurvivor on Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
swanso5
VETERAN
Posts: 10658
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:25 pm
Location: melbourne, australia

Post by swanso5 »

if you need VB for your condition then you're better off supplementing it to make sure you get what you need...also get some from food obviously though

easy plan...doesn't matter what food choice you have, just make it from the nutrient that is listed for each meal

meal 1 - fruit, high fibre cerial
2 - fruit, solid protein
3 - solid protein, veg, salad
4 - solid protein, veg, salad
5 - solid protein, veg, salad
6 - solid protein, veg, salad

fruit - any
high fibre cerial - oatmeal, porrige, museli...not sure what brands you have where you are but we have all bran, sultan bran, special k etc
solid protein - chicken, turkey, pork, eggs, fish, tuna, sardines, beef, lamb
veg - any
salad - any
Post Reply