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Hi...wow I have been here for a long long times..hello everyone...

I started at the guy since January...I really feel that I am not going anywere in the lose weight battle...

For a while now I was not eating much anyway I lost lots of weight...In December I was 148 but from December to end of January I gain...cause was that in December I drank lot of beer I had a 24 years break up I felt pretty depress too so eat lots of chips, cookies..and it seem that in 1 month I gain like 12lbs

Now since I go to the gym I feel like I am getter fatter...I have been told by a trainer that it because I muscle mass and the in a few month body will reajust and the muscle will burn the fat...

Is it possible to lose that 12 lbs and a bit more by mai...???

When I am at the gym I do weight...machine for legs, arm, shoulder ect...and after i do cardio I jump on the bike for 45 to 60 min...

But I have no clue what to eat, how much calorie I really need in a day....also work (daily work) is sitting in a office basically on butt all day long...

Thanks so much for your help...and I am happy to be back here.. :D
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oh and I forgot the trainer I had told me to...do (3 set) 10 to 12 reps of the exercices he gave me...and daughter is studing for being a personal trainer and she told me that it was not right that by doing this I will just get bigger that I should do unstead 6 reps but use heavier weight until I can't lift anymore..so now I am pretty mixt up..lol.....I need some tips...

thanks...
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10 rep sets are workable if you're going almost as heavy as you can.

However failure training is not all that. Many people have been there and done that, but ultimately I know the difference between going to the point of no return on every set pretty much, as compared to what I do now, which is not go there much and it makes a difference and you don't feel so wasted afterwards.

Gaining muscle is not a bad thing, as an extra lb of muscle burns an extra 45-50 calories a day, but 6 rep sets will also help, as many females try to lose weight on the basis of doing a load of reps, with little weight for 1-2 sets on a machine, which has virtually no real long-term effect at all, but I think it's done under the assumption that lifting bigger creates a manly appearance, but it doesn't bulk unless you eat a considerable anmont of calories with a protein rich intake and i've seen picture of woman weighing in excess of 130lbs of mass that don't look manly.

If someone lifts heavier, but eats less than 2,000 calories a day, muscle building is very insignificant, particualrly if the protein percentage is around 20-30% of that.

I would suggest you compromise on the sets and go for 8-10 reps and don't go for failure. If you're struggling to get the number of reps and it feels like the working area is about to give out on you, then don't try to lift that many reps again, stay around 1-2 reps lower than that, because the additional use of energy and effort, will just wear you out more for very little additional benefit if any.

Failure training is something people just get used to over time and assume it's a way to maximise what they do, but the extra 1-2 reps on each set, uses more energy expenditure and the long-term returns relative to what they are doing, are probably not worth it.

However it needs to be made clear, that even if you trained in a way that could put 10lbs of muscle on you, in around 18-24 months; if you didn't eat in a way that would support such change, it would never happen.

The juxtaposition is between having more muscle and physical conditional for the long-term, coupled with the potential fat burning benefits, versus your perception of how you may feel about it.

The other thing is if you cut out what was causing the weight gain, then obviously you'll drop some weight, because what you no longer eat, above what is reasonably required by the body, cannot have the same effects anymore.

The exercise routine you use will also play its part in how you lose weight as well, as 3 sets of 10-12 reps might work, if you lift close to failure, but if you use half of what you can lift, then the potential is cut significantly.

Hopefully that all makes sense. Apologies if it doesn't.
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yes it make sense....

So 8-10 reps...3 sets! And dont go until i can't lift anymore..but if its too easy pass the 8 - 10 I guess just increase the weight
until its hard but not to the point of no retur...

About the calorie well she told me 1 200 a day to lose weight...I have not count calories intake...but I will...she condider that 1 200 will make me lose 1 to 2 lbs a week if I add the weight training and cardio..what to you think?

Once someone at work told me 2000 ouff I taught that was lots I could not eat all those calories...!!!
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oh and I forgot... friend told me that I should eat lots of carb before training (pasta, bread ect) and after protein....(chicken, egg, fish) is this true...or I should not bother with that...???
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Yes do the 8-10 reps, but that shouldn't be to failure. You want to feel like you're working to around 90%-95% of failure, as going to failure all the time, uses more energy and potentially has poor additional rewards attached.

2,000 calories is not a lot. If you split it into 6 meals with roughly equal calorie amounts per day, then around 333 calories per portion doesn't seem too bad.

Carbs before a workout is always a good thing, as long as you're not eating too many, but carbs after is always good too and complex ones elevate bloodsugar and muscle glycogen levels, so things like bread, pasta, beans, rice, mushrooms, veggies, etc are good for recovering with, but protein helps too, as about 40% of protein intake can be converted into muscle glycogen and insulin can help this and by triggering insulin production through carb consumption, you can recover muscle glycogen moreso with protein in the mix not just carbs and therefore you should be able to generate more stored energy.

1,200 calories as an intake for losing weight is not reccomended. it's about 2/3 of what sedentary females need let alone active ones and if you don't get enough nutrients in the diet, that contribute directly and indirectly to bone health, I.E. Calcium, Vit K2, Vit D, Vit C, Copper, Magnesium etc, then you could promote Osteopenia, (thinning bones) and this would increase the risk of hairline fractures, or possibly worse than that, from the bones possibly becoming intolerant to cardiovascular impact shocks, or the flexing of the bones caused by weight training.

This would depend on what level of such nutrients you consumed, in that 1,200 calorie a day diet and their cumulative effects on bone condition.

The 2,000 calories a day approximately, would be more beneficial and not least for consuming more nutrients beneficial for cell protection, immune system function, cholesterol management etc.

A large part of the calories could come from sources of good fat, particularly things like edible oils butters and spreads, nuts, peanuts, avocado, flaxseed, omega 3 eggs, (chickens fed some flax), soy products like soybeans, tempeh, tofu, edemame, nattokinase and miso, low fat cheese and olives, as fats contain 9 calories per gram, so if they contribute around 30%-40% of the calories, then you'll be able to have a good chance of consuming your 2,000 a day.

You body may take time to adjust, so you may find a slight amount of weight gain is possible, depending on the difference between current calorie intake and increased intake, but after about 1-2 weeks or possibly more, you should settle into a new metabolic rythmn and coupled with the exercise you should start moving in the right direction.

Hopefully that all makes sense :).
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Yes it make sense...

But how you manage to loose weight in a 2 000 calories a day...???

I was looking this weekend on the internet how to calculate BMR and I got really confused....for exemple..like this one

On this site its said that BMR is 1440.3 and they say in order to lose weight you find your bmr then substract 500 calories a day...well if I do that I get nothing as calorie it makes no sense...some other one was gaving me a BMR of 1,200 cal a day...well...
So If I am


You have a BMR of 1440.3.

So if I am 5'3 and weight 160 and I am 44 what would it be Bmr...IF i am right the BMR is how much calorie your body need to survive like at rest right....????

Sorry If I ask so much questions??
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Don't apologise it's quite alright.

I'm not sure why the site would tell you to eat 500 calories below BMR to lose weight.

Basal Metabolic rate, is considered the low point at which you can consume calories per day, but still have effective metabolic functions. Anything lower than that could increase metabolic damage or at least stunt metabolic performance.

The 2,000 calories a day would be fine, as sedentary females need 1,800 calories a day, but you'd be getting some more calories to burn for the workouts.

If you undereat and especially when adding exercise into the equation, you can cause something called a starvation mode, where the body hangs onto fat and refuses to part with it, which means you'd be stuck with what excess was still there, until you increased your calories and gave your body a reason to shed more fat.

It does confuse some people when they get told that eating more is better, but people eating healthy food in low portions do themselves less favours.

I can tell you that a chicken salad is less fat and calorie laden than a 1,500 calorie pizza obviously, but depending on the contents of both, the pizza could contain more nutrients than the salad, particularly for the full compliment of fat soluable vitamins and for omega 3 and 6, which would not be present in a salad, unless you added something like olive oil to it, or avocado or nuts or some other healthy fat source.

I'm not trying to decry salads, they're fine, so eat them if you want, but the point is that the additional calories I'm suggesting, would provide more nutrients and could be burned for energy when you exercise, so they make sense.

I think it wouldn't harm to try this for about 6-8 weeks and see how you get on, but obviously it's your call :).
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Hi Boss...

oK I will try this....but on a day that I don't go to the guy should i eat like this too...!!!

So 1 800 to 2000 cal a day...
6 to 8 reps with weight but not to the exaustion with 3 sets...

When I eat salad I usually put Chicken or avocado and almond in them...is this too much?

How long do you see result..well I mean how long before I notice on the scale that I am loosing weight...

If you respond tomorrow I probably won't be able to respond I am going to Cuba for 10 days..but I will recheck the site later...thank so much!!!
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Avocado or almonds are good with salad, just don't go over board.

You can cut the calories back a bit when you don't workout, so take about 10%-20% out on days when you're not training.
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