Im also thinking of starting to go to the gym, how many times would i need to go a week if i did go. I said i might though as i don't know the price of it and stuff yet. Im really determined even more to do this now as for the 6 meals though, if it's a must i will try best, what foods are good that i can do myself which are usually normal household foods that people have. Sounds a bit awkard that but the usual foods people have, eggs, etc.
Also thinking of buying some protein powder incase i do start going the gym, anyone know some good types which aren't mega expensive and last a while?
Thanks
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ideas for meals:
example of typical day:
meal 1# bannanna, cereal(cheerios/weetabix) then some scrambled eggs.
meal 2# apple, 150-200g lean mince
meal3# 150g chicken breast,with veg(broccoli,cauliflower),yogurt.
meal 4# tuna sandwiches on wholegrain bread
meal 5#dinner,usually meat with veg.
meal 6# lean beef burgers or lean beef sausages with veg.
as for training, full body workouts 3x a week. i also get whey protein from discountsupplements.com 5kg of whey protein isolate for £45 which will last you months.
example of typical day:
meal 1# bannanna, cereal(cheerios/weetabix) then some scrambled eggs.
meal 2# apple, 150-200g lean mince
meal3# 150g chicken breast,with veg(broccoli,cauliflower),yogurt.
meal 4# tuna sandwiches on wholegrain bread
meal 5#dinner,usually meat with veg.
meal 6# lean beef burgers or lean beef sausages with veg.
as for training, full body workouts 3x a week. i also get whey protein from discountsupplements.com 5kg of whey protein isolate for £45 which will last you months.
See it looks like your calorie intake per day must look easyily over 2000 calories? I don't even eat 2000 calories a day and i still aint losing the fatttt.RK19 wrote:ideas for meals:
example of typical day:
meal 1# bannanna, cereal(cheerios/weetabix) then some scrambled eggs.
meal 2# apple, 150-200g lean mince
meal3# 150g chicken breast,with veg(broccoli,cauliflower),yogurt.
meal 4# tuna sandwiches on wholegrain bread
meal 5#dinner,usually meat with veg.
meal 6# lean beef burgers or lean beef sausages with veg.
as for training, full body workouts 3x a week. i also get whey protein from discountsupplements.com 5kg of whey protein isolate for £45 which will last you months.
If i was to use protein powder which im still not too sure on, where i weight 154 pounds would i need 154 grams a day of it? Wouldn't that have side effects? And run out after like a week? If i did use protein powder would it benefit me whereas i don't have access to all the foods or doesn't it work like that. If anyone can tell me if it can benefit meals to lose the fat get a bit of muscle then please tell me, would it make me ill using that much?
Grrr it's making me so frustrated and angry 13 days.. i would of thought id notice a difference even if it's small.
Im very sorry if it seems like im avoiding it all, im really not i really want this but please take a look at it from point of view at the age of 17, im not making exscuses im just trying to make the most of what ive got.
your 154g of protein would be coming from the food you eat throughout the day not solely the shake (which you should only have after your workout, and maybe at breakfast.) its really not that hard to eat that much protein when you think about it, your average chicken breast will have around 30g protein in it which is all the protein you would need for a typical meal if spread out over 5 or 6 meals,you following me? throw in some veg with that chicken and youve got a meal which isnt huge but is all you need.
an egg has around 7ish grams of protein- 3 scrambled eggs with beans and wholegrain toast, thats another meal with your 30 odd grams of protein in it. simple eh? and you cant get cheaper than bread, eggs and beans!
it really isnt rocket science, just a little planning is needed.
an egg has around 7ish grams of protein- 3 scrambled eggs with beans and wholegrain toast, thats another meal with your 30 odd grams of protein in it. simple eh? and you cant get cheaper than bread, eggs and beans!
it really isnt rocket science, just a little planning is needed.
I seeRK19 wrote:your 154g of protein would be coming from the food you eat throughout the day not solely the shake (which you should only have after your workout, and maybe at breakfast.) its really not that hard to eat that much protein when you think about it, your average chicken breast will have around 30g protein in it which is all the protein you would need for a typical meal if spread out over 5 or 6 meals,you following me? throw in some veg with that chicken and youve got a meal which isnt huge but is all you need.
an egg has around 7ish grams of protein- 3 scrambled eggs with beans and wholegrain toast, thats another meal with your 30 odd grams of protein in it. simple eh? and you cant get cheaper than bread, eggs and beans!
it really isnt rocket science, just a little planning is needed.
But im unsure of what 6 meals to eat as i dont usually have like chicken breast here. Another thing is where ive been doing a little bit of weight training right shoulder on the top of it, feels like glands or something? are aching badly, and ive only done a little bit of weight training if any. It seems i get aches and a bit of pain very easily.
Also we usually just have normal bread and stuff, i really would like this to work but im limited as to what i can eat. As long as i loose the fat on the stomach which is the main objective than il be happy, if i can get a bit of muscle on arms and tone chest where nipples are then that'll be great but yeah the main objective is to lose the rest of the fat it seems all the fat has gone to there, do i need to be eating so much protein in order to just lose the fat?
It might, but as I said before, you've had suggestions, ideas and things to mull over. You're still over-analysing stuff, which you need to stop doing.
You're getting compulsive with this, not giving yourself a solid strucutre to settle into, and you're being critical of practically every day, in some way shape or form.
The ideas and suggestions you have had, you need to work into some form of plan, which it looks as if you were doing, but you need to stick to it, and take time.
You're getting compulsive with this, not giving yourself a solid strucutre to settle into, and you're being critical of practically every day, in some way shape or form.
The ideas and suggestions you have had, you need to work into some form of plan, which it looks as if you were doing, but you need to stick to it, and take time.
Ok, i'm going to make out some sort of plan and routine to keep me going for the next few weeks seeing how i do, i will post everyday foods and routine so please feel free to comment and tell me how im doing. I will also respond to every post i can thank you.
Also for the weight training days, is it best to do them after ive eaten food, so that i would of eaten as much protein rather than doing it halfway through? As im not sure on this yet il just do whenever. And whatever excercises come into head with the weights, please feel free to suggest some
So if i continue to help reletively healthy and eat as much protein as i can i should see results soon right? And to eat 2000 calories a day?
Day 14
Woke up, done 40 crunches, sets of 20
Done 40 reverse crunches, also in sets of 20 however where your back aches from doing these ive put a pillow underneath back and i realise it isn't as flat as a mat or something so isit normal to woodle a little bit?
Also done some minor excercises like 10 sit ups, 20 push ups.
Breakfast - ate 2 wheatabix with milk and have had about 2 cups of water so far.
Just before lunch, snacked on a handfull of peanuts.
Lunch - 2 Slices of bread with 2/3 a can of tuna.
Couple of peanuts after.
About 4 crabsticks/ocean sticks/fish sticks whatever you like to call them just before dinner.
Dinner 2 egg muffins, each muffin was 160 calories eggs 100 each? so bout 520 calories but that's dinner.
After dinner i ate a plum. Going to work out soon too.
Thank you and thanks for being intrested
Also for the weight training days, is it best to do them after ive eaten food, so that i would of eaten as much protein rather than doing it halfway through? As im not sure on this yet il just do whenever. And whatever excercises come into head with the weights, please feel free to suggest some
So if i continue to help reletively healthy and eat as much protein as i can i should see results soon right? And to eat 2000 calories a day?
Day 14
Woke up, done 40 crunches, sets of 20
Done 40 reverse crunches, also in sets of 20 however where your back aches from doing these ive put a pillow underneath back and i realise it isn't as flat as a mat or something so isit normal to woodle a little bit?
Also done some minor excercises like 10 sit ups, 20 push ups.
Breakfast - ate 2 wheatabix with milk and have had about 2 cups of water so far.
Just before lunch, snacked on a handfull of peanuts.
Lunch - 2 Slices of bread with 2/3 a can of tuna.
Couple of peanuts after.
About 4 crabsticks/ocean sticks/fish sticks whatever you like to call them just before dinner.
Dinner 2 egg muffins, each muffin was 160 calories eggs 100 each? so bout 520 calories but that's dinner.
After dinner i ate a plum. Going to work out soon too.
Thank you and thanks for being intrested
Last edited by MartinBoy on Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Martin,
Will you do me a HUGE favor please? Go back to the very beginning of this thread (page one) and re-read every post for me. I have answered your questions over and over. I have given you ideas for food and have spent a great deal of time finding exercises for you. If you go back through the thread you will find that I have already copy and pasted links that show some exercises for you. Go back, re-read those posts, and look at those exercises. A few posts back you asked what exercises you should be doing. Please keep in mind that most of us who write on this stie have jobs and lives of our own. It is EXTREMELY frustrating when we commit the time and effort to help you and you continually ask the same questions over and over... its almost as if you aren't even taking the advice that you've been given.
As for food... I'm going to ask you do to me another favor here.... Will you please go through your fridge and freezer and write down all of the meats and dairy products that you can find. I really want to help you here and i'm hoping that if you can tell me what foods you have in your home I will be able to offer suggestions for you.
As for your question about how many times per week you'll need to go the gym... I'm sure i've already answered this question atleast 2 times already but i'll answer it again... The gym will be no different from working out in your home. If you go the gym you'll want to lift weights 3 days a week and do cardio 3 days a week... alternating between weights and cardio every other day. Take one day off per week.
YES you need to be eating "so much" protein in order to loose the fat. Isn't that what we've been saying throughout this whole thread? You've been saying that you want to lose the fat on your stomach and we've been telling you to increase your protein.
As for the weight training... what time of the day are you planning on doing it? I do mine first thing in the morning (5am) and yes, I do have protein before working out. I usually myself a large protein shake and have a little before working out (about 1/4th of it). Then I drink half of it while i'm working out. Then RIGHT after working out i'll drink the rest.
Day 14-Is this supposed to be a weight day? Youre wasting your time with all of those crunches and ab exercises. If this is a weight day then go back and find where i posted you exercises to do for weight day. The links i gave you show what exercises to do and they show proper form.
Breakfast: Need protein here
Peanuts are good but you need more food there.
Lunch looks good. Add veggies.
Peanuts are good but add protein and veggies.
I hope this helps Martin. I REALLY want to help you succeed here but you MUST read the advice we are giving you and try your very best to apply it to your routine. Now, as I suggested, please go back to the VERY beginning of this thread and re-read every post for me.
You're doing well. Keep up the good work and keep your chin up!
Cassie
Will you do me a HUGE favor please? Go back to the very beginning of this thread (page one) and re-read every post for me. I have answered your questions over and over. I have given you ideas for food and have spent a great deal of time finding exercises for you. If you go back through the thread you will find that I have already copy and pasted links that show some exercises for you. Go back, re-read those posts, and look at those exercises. A few posts back you asked what exercises you should be doing. Please keep in mind that most of us who write on this stie have jobs and lives of our own. It is EXTREMELY frustrating when we commit the time and effort to help you and you continually ask the same questions over and over... its almost as if you aren't even taking the advice that you've been given.
As for food... I'm going to ask you do to me another favor here.... Will you please go through your fridge and freezer and write down all of the meats and dairy products that you can find. I really want to help you here and i'm hoping that if you can tell me what foods you have in your home I will be able to offer suggestions for you.
As for your question about how many times per week you'll need to go the gym... I'm sure i've already answered this question atleast 2 times already but i'll answer it again... The gym will be no different from working out in your home. If you go the gym you'll want to lift weights 3 days a week and do cardio 3 days a week... alternating between weights and cardio every other day. Take one day off per week.
YES you need to be eating "so much" protein in order to loose the fat. Isn't that what we've been saying throughout this whole thread? You've been saying that you want to lose the fat on your stomach and we've been telling you to increase your protein.
As for the weight training... what time of the day are you planning on doing it? I do mine first thing in the morning (5am) and yes, I do have protein before working out. I usually myself a large protein shake and have a little before working out (about 1/4th of it). Then I drink half of it while i'm working out. Then RIGHT after working out i'll drink the rest.
Day 14-Is this supposed to be a weight day? Youre wasting your time with all of those crunches and ab exercises. If this is a weight day then go back and find where i posted you exercises to do for weight day. The links i gave you show what exercises to do and they show proper form.
Breakfast: Need protein here
Peanuts are good but you need more food there.
Lunch looks good. Add veggies.
Peanuts are good but add protein and veggies.
I hope this helps Martin. I REALLY want to help you succeed here but you MUST read the advice we are giving you and try your very best to apply it to your routine. Now, as I suggested, please go back to the VERY beginning of this thread and re-read every post for me.
You're doing well. Keep up the good work and keep your chin up!
Cassie
Yes i will look at the posts again cassie, sorry that im bothering you lot im just really determined to lose the stomach fat. I will keep updating the post above after dinner and at the end of the day, i was doing 40 crunches and 40 leg crunches in order to help me before i go to bed and when i wake up in the morning, build some more muscle?
Im trying to eat alot more protein and am reading labels of every foods. I will do weight training after ive had dinner that way ive eaten most of the protein from the day?
Thanks
Im trying to eat alot more protein and am reading labels of every foods. I will do weight training after ive had dinner that way ive eaten most of the protein from the day?
Thanks
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Oh youre not necessarily bothering me Martin... Its just frustrating when you ask the same questions over and over again... and its frustrating when I answer them over and over again. I want to help you but need you to actually read the advice that i'm giving you. ;)
Yes, do post an update for dinner so advice can be given.
As for weights, no you dont necessarily need to wait until the end of the day to do weights to ensure that you get in most of your protein before weights. You can do the weights whenever you want. I prefer doing them in the morning when i have the most energy and muscles are fresh. Thats just me though...
Cassie
Yes, do post an update for dinner so advice can be given.
As for weights, no you dont necessarily need to wait until the end of the day to do weights to ensure that you get in most of your protein before weights. You can do the weights whenever you want. I prefer doing them in the morning when i have the most energy and muscles are fresh. Thats just me though...
Cassie
Ok cassie thanks il keep that in mind. Ive just finished doing weights, arms are aching a bit which i suppose is good? The thing is, im not sure how long im ment to be doing weights for, ive probably done about 15minutes then. I don't want to overdo it like i did the other week where i couldnt bend arms and hope i haven't over done it now but im not sure the best ones to do for burning fat ive done these ones.
http://www.shapefit.com/quadriceps-exer ... unges.html
Bout 30 of them, 15 per leg.
http://www.shapefit.com/quadriceps-exer ... quats.html
Think i did about 20 of those.
http://www.shapefit.com/chest-exercises ... press.html
Can't remember bout this one, haven't got a bench press to lay on so did on floor, 20 i think.
http://www.shapefit.com/shoulder-exerci ... esses.html
40 of those, sets of 20.
http://www.shapefit.com/middle-back-exe ... -rows.html
40 of those on each arm, 20 on one arm then switch, i used bed instead of a press bench.
I also did some ones that came into head like puting both arms out to the side with dumbells in them and bringing them back in, hanging one dumbell over one side of hip and bringing back and fourth.
Hope that explains some, i just hope i haven't over done workout but done enough.
How am i doing in regards to the diet and that too, seeing as it's been 2 weeks today.
For the workout, i used the same type of dumbells in the videos, the smaller ones 0.5kg per plate, so like 2 pounds per dumbell? Then when i lifted weights up towards arm i doubled it so it was 4 pounds per dumbell.
Also ive been eating multivitamin + iron tablet 1 a day to help.
Thanks i hope im doing well
http://www.shapefit.com/quadriceps-exer ... unges.html
Bout 30 of them, 15 per leg.
http://www.shapefit.com/quadriceps-exer ... quats.html
Think i did about 20 of those.
http://www.shapefit.com/chest-exercises ... press.html
Can't remember bout this one, haven't got a bench press to lay on so did on floor, 20 i think.
http://www.shapefit.com/shoulder-exerci ... esses.html
40 of those, sets of 20.
http://www.shapefit.com/middle-back-exe ... -rows.html
40 of those on each arm, 20 on one arm then switch, i used bed instead of a press bench.
I also did some ones that came into head like puting both arms out to the side with dumbells in them and bringing them back in, hanging one dumbell over one side of hip and bringing back and fourth.
Hope that explains some, i just hope i haven't over done workout but done enough.
How am i doing in regards to the diet and that too, seeing as it's been 2 weeks today.
For the workout, i used the same type of dumbells in the videos, the smaller ones 0.5kg per plate, so like 2 pounds per dumbell? Then when i lifted weights up towards arm i doubled it so it was 4 pounds per dumbell.
Also ive been eating multivitamin + iron tablet 1 a day to help.
Thanks i hope im doing well
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Good job Martin,
I'm glad to see that you finally gave the weight training an honest effort.
If your arms are tired then that is good. It means you were doing it right. :) I'm not sure what you mean by "overdoing it"? When I get done at that gym arms are so tired that I can barely do hair and makeup to come to work. Today was leg day and legs were actually shaking for about an hour after training... and they will probably be sore tomorrow. When you lift weights you are actually breaking down your muscles to allow them to rebuild stronger. This is good. Soreness isn't always a bad thing. You don't necessarily need to be sore after every workout, however its ok if you are.
As for making up your own exercises... I would just stick to the ones that are shown in the links I gave you look up other exercises to do. If you make up your own you could injure yourself... which we really don't want. If you feel like you can do more exercises then what you have done then i would simply do more reps of the ones that i listed for you. These are good exercises and they work... which means they would be a good use of your energy. :)
Do you have heavier dumbells or is there a reason why you are using 2 lb dumbells? If you have heavier weights I would increase the weight a bit so you can only do 10-12 reps (on this ones where youre doing one leg or arm at a time it would be 10-12 reps per arm or leg). Then do 3 sets of 10-12 reps... which means you would do one exercise 10-12 times, then rest or do another exercise, then do it again 10-12 times, then rest or do another exercise, then do it again 10-12 times so you've done 3 sets. Make sense?
I'm glad to see that you finally gave the weight training an honest effort.
If your arms are tired then that is good. It means you were doing it right. :) I'm not sure what you mean by "overdoing it"? When I get done at that gym arms are so tired that I can barely do hair and makeup to come to work. Today was leg day and legs were actually shaking for about an hour after training... and they will probably be sore tomorrow. When you lift weights you are actually breaking down your muscles to allow them to rebuild stronger. This is good. Soreness isn't always a bad thing. You don't necessarily need to be sore after every workout, however its ok if you are.
As for making up your own exercises... I would just stick to the ones that are shown in the links I gave you look up other exercises to do. If you make up your own you could injure yourself... which we really don't want. If you feel like you can do more exercises then what you have done then i would simply do more reps of the ones that i listed for you. These are good exercises and they work... which means they would be a good use of your energy. :)
Do you have heavier dumbells or is there a reason why you are using 2 lb dumbells? If you have heavier weights I would increase the weight a bit so you can only do 10-12 reps (on this ones where youre doing one leg or arm at a time it would be 10-12 reps per arm or leg). Then do 3 sets of 10-12 reps... which means you would do one exercise 10-12 times, then rest or do another exercise, then do it again 10-12 times, then rest or do another exercise, then do it again 10-12 times so you've done 3 sets. Make sense?
Yes i have heavier weights however i was using 2lbs as there the small sized weights which are shown in the video.
Thanks for the advice i will continue to find out what's best to do on the weight training days as in reps and routine, tomorow cardio day, so if i spend 40mins on bike and eat fairly healthy trying to get as much protein as i can i should do well?
Thanks again im happy that im doing something right
Thanks for the advice i will continue to find out what's best to do on the weight training days as in reps and routine, tomorow cardio day, so if i spend 40mins on bike and eat fairly healthy trying to get as much protein as i can i should do well?
Thanks again im happy that im doing something right