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Better before? As usual
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I like the after pics. You look adorable!! I mean that. Very nice cut to go with a very nice face. :mrgreen:
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Ahh thanks FOF! I really dislike having pictures but thought id take them to show as i have said about doing so in the past anyway so thought to get it done, a boy cut it who i think may have been slightly younger than me or around the same age, just scissors mostly, but, seemed to work i guess, a lot neater i think either way.


Knees hurting a lot worse today, right one, if it is related to Pes Anerserinus Burstits, then im wondering if the inflammation would show up on an MRI, going to request something tomorrow anyway. The thing is, right knee has been worse the past 5+ months or so, in terms of not being able to fully straighten it, so that could definitely have some inflammation, with the aches and pains Ive had for 4 years, wouldn't of thought it to be possible to have inflammation for that long?

right knee i guess is hurting because i had a bit of a kick around with some cousins that had just flown over anyway. Played football for like 20mins if that, got to have some fun seeing as i haven't been able to do anything and it wasn't even too strenuous, getting out of hand, hope i can get some answers soon.

I know Ive just had an x-ray, but going to request MRI aswell as i am confident the x-ray will show nothing.

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Ooo! I love your hair cut, it's not too different, but just enough to frame your face a little better. Very nice c: Your hair looks very healthy too, do you try to take good care of it? All in all, looks lovely, a smile would make it look better though. C: Haha. Thanks, for sharing dear, you look dashing.

Wish I could comment on your knees but I donmt know a darn thing. :/
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Lol, thanks, but i hate the photos, guess we're our own worse critics. I don't really do nothing to hair except from wash it with shampoo and conditioner and style it with some wax/gel, not the best of photos there, but who knows if i get a good one may show lol. Smile was pushing it, but may be one in the future haha. Wasn't sure what to do with it at that length, so i usually get it trimmed down shorter pretty much, should put it into a style, it's finding one that suits me. The picture i posted before was something i would of liked but when i asked them to do that i didn't like how it turned out and i don't really want the hassle of straigthening hair everyday lol.

Not to worry about the knees, will say what the doc says tomoz, been limpin a bit today, great :roll:
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K guys, you were right.

After tonight guess the best thing for me to do is give the up...

So i went down there and thought you know, i'll speak to her see what's up and how things go, speak as it comes along, but it was awkward beyond belief.

I walked in, didn't see her at the counter, walked down by the movies and when i turned a corner i saw her there on the shop floor with a trolley sorting out some movies. I said hello, you alright, she replied pretty much the same. Then i thought id get it off chest by saying i just wanted to say sorry if i came across a bit strong last week by asking for your number, she then smirked and said it's fine and i finished by saying i was looking to know you better - AWKWARD. From this moment onwards i knew she was NOT interested and that i knew she was lying about having a BF, just from the conversation.

Anyway, i changed the subject i think, by saying so what you been up to and she was just saying she's been working really and pretty much that's it. Im trying to remember what else she said, she was just talking about her job, i think i asked her how long she had been working and she said since janurary, i asked if she liked working here and she said yeah it's a good job, money could be better but it's alright. She asked if i was looking for a film after i said about saying sorry, and i said yeah got any new films and she showed me a couple. One of some cartoon rabit and some other film called Hanna, weren't interested in those at all though - let's be honest here. And she showed me the other film that i got out last week and didn't see and she said it's ment to be crap lol. I said yeah i got that out last week but didn't get round to seeing it.

She said something like oh i need a break from this job. I said why don't you take a holiday or some time off and she said id only get paid for X hours as she only does X amount of hours or something, weren't totally interested if im honest with you but i kept the convo going as much as i could. She was then saying that the store's such a pain to keep tidy and that there was mess everywhere. She asked me about what i do and i just told her i finished 3 years electrical and was doing some electrical work she said oh do you like it i said, not really, and she was like oh it's a job though. Sorta thing. Anyway, i mentioned i was going away soon - probably shouldn't boast about stuff but i felt i had to keep the conversation going as awkward silence was poping up. She then told me about some story on the news of the place i was going of some mass murder chopping peoples heads off, i thought great lol. She asked if i was doing anything tonight and i said nah not much that's why i came down to look for a film, couldn't exactly say, what about you? As it was obviously work and the store closes at 10.

Things were just getting AWKWARD, i mean who wants to talk about work, it's pretty boring and most of us only do it because we have to. It was starting to get silent and i was standing there with arms crossed, alternating with leaning on the trolley, and the conversation was pretty much over, i couldn't think of anything else to say i think i asked her what she was did the weekend and she said just worked - no mention of BF, although it's not business. I just felt like such a dick, standing there, she could probably sense the nerves in some of words, particularly the first with opening statement, i was nervous before going in there, but i tried to hide it as best as i could. She seemed perfectly calm and relaxed as opposed to last time were it was pretty much the opposite, i dunno, just seemed a bit downgrade from last time. Typing this now i can't remember anything else she said and it doesn't really matter as that was pretty much all it was, i finished with saying something like, alright then, PAUSE, i'll see ya around. And she said bye.

Just the AWKWARD moments showed i fucking blew it, standing there with pauses and hesitation, girls like confidence, i didn't have it, i just didn't know what to say, i did the best i could but it wasn't enough, standing there with pauses, i didn't care if there was anyone around or nothing like that as i was too deep into the conversation. You know, a boring conversation, i can't exactly speak to her much now, at least about her boyfriend or anything like that, if she said anything after first statement i could of carried on about it and dug deeper into that area. She just said it's fine, if she said something like, oh no it's fine it's just because i have a boyfriend that's all, then i could of said yeah that's cool, is he from around here, i might know him? Something like that, but there was nothing to go on and i couldn't stick nose in like that without an invitation, plus just saying it's fine, i got the impression from our conversation that there wasn't a boyfriend and that she just wasn't interested, but why not? If she's single it wouldn't hurt to get to know me better, i guess she just isn't attracted to me, like i wasn't to her in the past, until a phase came up. I feel really disappointed and annoyed with myself, for seeming and sounding so boring and unconfident. She knows i like her. Maybe im just too ugly for her. If it were me, id at least give out number and find out more about that person - if i were single.

Guess i don't need to walk down there anymore, not interested in a boring like me. The only benefit Ive got from all this is that if need be i can approach her easier, but i don't know, there's no real need to carry on? I feel gutted by this but you know, it's not going to work it seems, and im really really annoyed about that, it doesn't even look like we can be friends. Maybe im just being hard on myself because there wasn't a chance to talk about possible relationships, i felt that asking stuff like oh do you have brothers would of been boring and that stuff, didn't really like talking about work but im not going to say, this is boring am i?

I feel so angry and let down by myself, god this is depressing stuff, WHY? I actually looked good tonight for once, with the new haircut, better than last time.. guess i need to throw in the towel, and that is something i am very annoyed about and DON'T want to do, but i don't feel there's anymore i can do on the situation unless you have any suggestions, Please?

Maybe im looking at things completely wrong, she may think it was good to talk, but she probably doesn't, is there anything i can do to improve on this, she could be interested but real calm, although from today's convo i doubt that, im just not hitting any nails here..


All i want to do is to keep friendly with her and know her well so that if there's any possibilties in the future and we're both single and up for it there's potential for stuff, but i don't know if im way off here, if she isn't interested will she ever be? With me, i just want to keep things sweet, but planned trips to go down there doesn't seem to work, can't even add her on the net anymore as that's not available. Wouldn't feel right doing that without speaking about it first anyway, not with her, as she knows im of course interested some what, i am bothered about this, but when i looked into her eyes today, i thought, im bothered deep down inside, but here, i don't care?


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really hoping for some answers guys, i know it's soon and im being impatient, i just can't get this shit off of mind, i feel that's telling something in itself, i feel like there's something im missing that i need to do but it's all too strange for me right now.
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Okay, darling, little things first. If you want, I could help you chose a hairstyle if you want, I've had about six friends that went through cosmetology school and they decided that since I listen, they'd pretty much just tell me everything they learned. Haha. So if you ever want me to, let me know.

Bigger things next, I know how the whole being your own worst critic works. I've always been extremely harsh on myself. I don't believe a single compliment anyone ever gives me and I know it can be really annoying sometimes to hear compliments when you feel like they aren't true.

Biggest things last. First of all, with the girl situation... You're not ugly, you're actually very attractive (this coming from an American girl, I don't know what british girls like) and you're not a "boring ". Second off, even if she doesn't have a boyfriend, what makes you think that she's looking right now? Or that she's even straight? The flaw in the situation doesn't HAVE to be you, dear. I know that I've had that happen to me, I get into a phase where I really just DON'T want a relationship, whether it be because of a break up or just a point in life where I'm uninterested or what have you. Also, she may have gotten awkward when you asked because maybe she doesn't like men and didn't want to tell you because she's not out about it. You never know dear. Don't beat yourself up. If a guy that looked like you asked me for number, I'd probably faint. haha. So don't worry, it's probably not you. Also, girls don't ALWAYS like confidence, when we're nervous, we like to know that we aren't the only nervous ones. I really wish I could tell you how to win her over and all that, but I really can't. I can be here for you to help you try to move on and pick up the pieces, so to speak.
Martin-Boy2 wrote:All i want to do is to keep friendly with her and know her well so that if there's any possibilties in the future and we're both single and up for it there's potential for stuff, but i don't know if im way off here, if she isn't interested will she ever be? With me, i just want to keep things sweet, but planned trips to go down there doesn't seem to work, can't even add her on the net anymore as that's not available. Wouldn't feel right doing that without speaking about it first anyway, not with her, as she knows im of course interested some what, i am bothered about this, but when i looked into her eyes today, i thought, im bothered deep down inside, but here, i don't care?
Stop trying to force it, let it go and if a later happenstance ends up in you two getting together, great! Don't sweat it dear. I know rejection sucks (I deal with it a lot and so it has screwed courage all up to the point that I refuse to get it out there in fear of rejection) but you can get past this and I know you can. If you ever want to talk, (and I mean ever since I'm up all night your time, so if it's late, don't worry) please get a hold of me. It hurts me to see that you are so seemingly upset when you're such a sweetheart with so many other issues on his plate.

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You know Jena, you give really good advice. And yes I am giving you a compliment. :wink:

I agree with what Jena said Martin. Nice pics by the way. :D And yes you are a cute guy! :D
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Yeah Jena, really thanks for the reply. I like reading about this situation, i know i can write a lot on it so it could get boring from the otherside, but you seem good at listening and it's good to take into account other advice, especially from the opposite .

I never thought of things that way, not that she could be a lesbian or something like that, i doubt she is, but yeah it's still something i never even considered. It could also be that she's not looking, i mean until i was interested into her, i was kinda looking for a relationship, but i dunno, not really going out of way to try and find one, until an opportunity would of came up, which it did. You've really gave me a new perspective on how to look at things which i never thought of before. You see, when i write these posts, it's mostly because i have a lot of time at that matter to think about this stuff, and it can be a bit crazy. It goes round and round in head like circles and it can become a bit tedious, i suppose it's not that im doing it on purpose, but the boredom and the what if's kick in and it can't be good for health deep down, over thinking.

I just don't know what to do next, i know all of you are going to say, forget it, forget her, which i know is probably right, whether i want to except that or not is the problem. I get she isn't ready for a relationship or interested in me right now or what have you. But today wasn't about that anyway, i mean, when i think back to her today, she wasn't THAT attractive to me, but you know, she was working and wasn't exactly "done up" as i had seen her in the past, like the day after i rented the film, i wonder if i went in there tomorrow if she would like done up? But that's something i won't find out and she seemed calm and relax either way today. I just felt so boring, i hated the pauses, she was pretty talkative, and i was a fair bit too, but i didn't know what else to say, i didn't want to sound boring asking 21 questions about stuff she didn't want to talk about, but after today i learnt that she obviously didn't mind talking about her job and work, even though i didn't find it too interesting myself.

I do need to relax a bit, yesterday when i was out and had the day to myself, i didn't have time to think about this stuff so it didn't bother me, where Ive spoke to her tonight and had time to think about it, this is when the shit hits the fan. Im not sure what else to say, apart from id go down there when i need a film next, but im not sure about that as it could be a LONG time, i feel if i go in within a few days though, i won't know what to say to her, at least if i see her in a week or so i could start by saying what you been up to and stuff, but since then it's dead meat as i know she'll probably say "working" - obviously lol.

Thanks Jena, your the best, always good to know someone is there. I guess to take things as it comes, it's just driving me mad, for both the wrong and right reasons though, thanks for keeping an eye on this thread everyone.
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musculArgirl2 wrote:You know Jena, you give really good advice. And yes I am giving you a compliment. :wink:
Intelligence and things I work for are the only things I don't actually mind compliments on, because I know I earned them and that I agree. Haha. Loophole. c:
Martin-Boy2 wrote:Yeah Jena, really thanks for the reply. I like reading about this situation, i know i can write a lot on it so it could get boring from the otherside, but you seem good at listening and it's good to take into account other advice, especially from the opposite .
listening skills have gotten really strong over the years as I have always been the quiet girl that will do everything she can to help. Plus, you're a sweet guy and I want to help you. c:
Martin-Boy2 wrote:You see, when i write these posts, it's mostly because i have a lot of time at that matter to think about this stuff, and it can be a bit crazy. It goes round and round in head like circles and it can become a bit tedious, i suppose it's not that im doing it on purpose, but the boredom and the what if's kick in and it can't be good for health deep down, over thinking.
Oh golly, boy do I know how that works, have you seen half of longer posts in journal? Haha. Alone time is something that many people dread since it allows way too much time for your mind to wander into the depths of things that you'd rather not think about.

As far as I can tell you, dear, if you want to hold onto the idea, do so. But don't let it get to you this much. Look for other girls, focus on yourself, do something to keep from getting too tangled up in your thoughts and ended up getting so depressed, okay, babe?
Martin-Boy2 wrote:Thanks Jena, your the best, always good to know someone is there. I guess to take things as it comes, it's just driving me mad, for both the wrong and right reasons though, thanks for keeping an eye on this thread everyone.
Haha, I wish I was the best, I just try best. I wish you the best of luck, dear.
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I think you'd be stringing it along too much dude.

She's making a point, whether it's a straight one or not, by that I mean the rebuff towards you, could have been the truth or a work of fiction to just not have to say, you're not what I want.

The so-called BF then becomes the key as whther he bebuffing of you was legit or a tissue of lies to avoid a more harsh rejection of you.

She can't exactly act like you're a creepo, just because you're asking how she is and what she's doing, because that's not how you're behaving. Now if you just went in there a lot and stood across the room blowing her kisses and licking your mouth, then she'd have a reason to think "creepo".

You're now still believing something may happen eventually, as if fate is keeping you apart for a destined time and place in the future, but even trying to be friends with her could ruin things.

Does she want to have someone in her life who becomes a good laugh and someone to talk to, then go to something more, if the time was right?

Doing casual stuff like kissing and cuddling wouldn't up the ante that much, but suddenly the thought of doing "it" and eventually co-habiting and getting married with kids would change things entirely.

Could you and her stand the test of time, when right now even if she has a BF, she's not willing to believe you're better than him and let him down gently.

Are you making her see that he is not as good as she could be getting?

The answer is no.

If she's making the BF up, does that mean she would suddenly have an about turn of face and suddenly believe you're a must have guy at all costs?

Is she not thinking her actions through properly?

I doubt it, or she'd have seen that in you by now and potentially the talking and apology would have earned you the phone number. First too forward, then more sincere looking. Overlook any nerves and she's got a worthwhile person to get with, but what happened didn't make her feel like that, so either she has a BF, or she really, really doesn't want anything with you or indeed anyone right now.

It's like you seem to think there's still a 1% chance of you and her having something at some point, but she's giving you no reason, nor are there any clear indicators, to think it could ever be.

Persuing her on the never never, is diverting you away from other possible relationships and let's face it, is she the ultimate female within a 500 square mile radius? Is she all you could ever want, because if she was, she would probably know it and she'd be after anyone that matched her criteria, because she'd be the ultimate to a lot of other guys too.

Unless of course she couldn't see herself in the way guys like you see her and presumed she was less than the ultimate, so was not actively persuing anything with avengance.

I'm guessing she's as desirable as quite a few other people, so they're out there potentially waiting for someone like you.

She's not.
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Finally getting somewhere with this crippled problems.

The knee issue Ive taken into own hands, a possible combination of Pes Anserinus bursitis and maltracking of the knee possibly due to something similar to patella formal syndrome. Been stretching hamstrings daily along with foam rolling quads and it band + adductors and stretching those too, have seen some improvements in range of motion for knee flexion of right knee, will keep at it. An MRI has been requested on knees, don't feel it'll show anything myself, but worth doing i suppose.

Asked the doc about insoles, said they don't think they prescribe those, i assume you have to see someone specialized, for now i think im just going to buy a pair that the NHS sell anyway, these look good;
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Something which will stop heel pain, tried different trainers today and they helped, although the right shoe was hurting medial arch.

About shoulder/cervical spine and elbow issues, FINALLY, i have got through to the doctors pushing them and pushing them and have been referred to an orthopedic clinic up london. I explained that where im out of work due to these problems im not getting anywhere and would like to get things sorted soon as so i can get back into work, they saw sense.

So will likely have to use the travel up london, depending on how many times i'll have to go up there i may be able to get support from this, especially seeing as it's helping treatment, will have to look into that, glad to be heading away in a few days to get away from this all, although the pains still live with me for now :|
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Congratulations on making progress with your medical problem, babe! I'm happy for you and I hope all other areas are making just as good of progress! c:
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Ahhh thanks Jena :mrgreen: Just feels as though they're finally starting to listen and should of months ago, should be able to get appropriate treatment now.

With the other things, i dunno lol, haven't been down to the store in other a week and no real intentions too :roll:
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