Wierd Question

[stranger2009]

Healthy food isn't always expensive Stranger.

Eggs are cheap.

Some foods come with 2 for 1 deals some weeks, so take full advantage.

You will find that even things like Baked Beans and Tinned Peas aren't too expensive, and aren't a really bad choice.

Meat may not be too expensive either itdepends on what you're buying. A Pork Chop is obviously not going to cost the same as a Peice of Sirloin.

Plus if you go to a Butchers or a Supermarket with a Butchery section, you might find you get a bulk buy discount.

Another slight possible is to see if any slaughterhouses sell to the public, and maybe you could buy a small animal carcass, store it in a deep freezer, and hack off what you need each time, as that might be cheaper. I believe that sometimes does happen, or maybe a butchr can do it. Just go in thee and say, I'll take that lump of Pork hanging on your hook, and he'll do you a litle bit off the price, becasue it's less hassle to chop it up into about 20-30 pieces instead, especially if you agree to take it home, store it, and chop it up yourself, you're doing him a favour, he might do you one as well.

Also find things like Rick bags, with sachets in, as they might be cheaper, the bigger the boxes.

Also it probably cost little to nothing more to buy skimmed or semi-skimmed milk compared to regular.

Also perhaps buy yoghurts, as a failr chepa way to get nutrition, and buy the ones with Nuts not Fruit. Fruit digestion will be impeded by the Yoghurt, but Nuts won't and Nuts contain good things like Healthy Fats, Fat Soluable Vitamins, Magnesium, Selenium, Copper etc etc,

If you find regular Pasta a bit on the pricey side perhaps, then suck it up and buy canned. At leats the Tomato sauce has Lycopene in it, which si good for fighting skin aging free radicals, anti-cancer properties, and converts to Vit A.

Not quite as good as fresh stuff, but not really that bad at all, but at the least the sauce shouldn't be as bad as Ketchup, which is very sugary.

Maybe buy a Protein and Carb powder. Have half a scoop with Breakfast, maybe another as an afternoon snack perhaps when pushed for time, and if needs be supplement your mineral and Vit needs with half a Multi-vit a day, to save money on Supplement costs.

If you want to eat better, you might not necessarily get it spot on, but certainly you can make some changes, rather than being resigned to your lot.

You just have to be canny and sometimes think outside of the box.

Thanks for the info guys Im try best but mom buys the food that we all have to share with the rest of family. If she buys me food just for me it takes away food from 6 year old sister and sister and mom her self so i really dont think I will get it to happen untill I find a job.

use your weekly allowance to buy some yogurts, tuna eggs or some protein shakes. they aint that expensive really.

I wish, It goes on stuff i need inc, haircut,school cloths, etc

[Boss Man]

Yeah, but you don't buy clothes every week, and you don't get a haircut every week.

As for Protein shakes get a tub, not packet stuff. If you get a tub of Protein and Carbs, use tspns to dose it not the scoop, you can like me, get 4-5 weeks out of a 2 week's worth, and I get 3lbers because they're easier to transport ot the Gym than 5lbers, and easier to dispose of.

You would only need the equivalent of about 8-9 Tspns, roughly about 1/3 of a specified serve I'd reckon.

[vamp]

I have a challenge for you......

Try and think of things you can do to better your lot. Write them down, even here would be great.

For every negative thing or excuse you think of about trying or doing something do 10 push ups and 10 sit ups.

I dare you!

[vamp]

I double dare you!

[stranger2009]

Yeah, but you don't buy clothes every week, and you don't get a haircut every week.

As for Protein shakes get a tub, not packet stuff. If you get a tub of Protein and Carbs, use tspns to dose it not the scoop, you can like me, get 4-5 weeks out of a 2 week's worth, and I get 3lbers because they're easier to transport ot the Gym than 5lbers, and easier to dispose of.

You would only need the equivalent of about 8-9 Tspns, roughly about 1/3 of a specified serve I'd reckon.

Correct but I dont always get allowance, family is having money problems Ill be very rarely get extra spending money. The little bit of money I do get now goes to not only those things that I need around the house,Deodorant,shampoo,etc etc.

Trust me I used to be in kick boxing and working off at total fitness and was on a diet from a trainer that got me the way I wanted low body fat with mass and def but since money got tight had to leave all that and is limited, I know how it is to force myself and not be lazy. friends evenr know how dedicated I was Im not lazy just kinda stuck.

heres something I wrote up I told you guys what I thought of how to lose this extra body fat with limits and such and hopefully can heres what I wrote tell me what you think

New Start

1)Eating Habits:
Eat 5-6 Meals a Day Healthy 3-4 Normal
Morning,None,None,Night Before 8
>Low Amounts Of Junk More Healthy
>Best Foods Possible
>No Sweets/Junk
>Only Water Dranks

2)Carido Activities:
Start Doing Atleast 1 Hour Or More Of Cardio
>Running
>Sprints Variebles
>Swiming
>Biking

3)Exercise
Do Body Weight Instead Of Things With The Barbell And Dumbells
Monday:Biceps, Triceps, Forearms, Abs
2-3 Exercises Per Muscle
4-5 Sets Of 8-12 Reps Depending On Weight
Exercises:Biceps
http://bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.p ... cle=Biceps
Chin-Up
Reverse Plate Curls
Pull ups
Curls
Alternating Hammer Curls
Hammer Dumbbell Curls

Exercises:Triceps
http://bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.p ... le=Triceps
Bench Dips
Skull Crusher
Behind Head
Dips
Pushups Hands Close
Tricep Dumbbell Kickback
Towel Extensions

Exercises:Forearms
http://bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.p ... e=Forearms
http://www.shapefit.com/training-forearms.html
Wrist Rollers


Tuesday:Quads, Hams, Glutes,Calves
2-3 Exercises Per Muscle
4-5 Sets Of 8-12 Reps Depending On Weight
Exercise:Quads
http://bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.p ... Quadriceps
Barbell Deadlift
Barbell Full Squat
Barbell Squat To A Bench
Barbell Step Ups
Dumbbell Squat

Exercise:Hams
http://bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.p ... Hamstrings
Barbell Lunge
Dumbbell Lunges
Flutter Kicks


Exercises:Glutes
http://bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.p ... cle=Glutes
Glute Kickback
Butt Lift (Bridge)
Leg Lift
Walking Dumbbell Lunges
Dumbbell Bench Step Ups

Exercises:Calves
http://bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.p ... cle=Calves
Barbell Seated Calf Raise
Stairs
Rocking Standing Calf Raise
Standing Barbell Calf Raise
Donkey Calf Raises

Wensday:Upper/Mid/Lower Back, Lats, Abs
2-3 Exercises Per Muscles
4-5 Sets Of 8-12 Reps Depending On Weight
Exercise:Back
http://bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.p ... iddle+Back
Bent Over Barbell Row
Bent Over One-Arm Long Bar Row
Bent Over Two-Dumbbell Row
Middle Back Shrug
One-Arm Dumbbell Row
Rocky Pull-Ups/Pulldowns

Lower
Hyperextensions (Back Extensions)
Stiff Leg Barbell Good Morning
Stiff-Legged Barbell Deadlift

Exercise:Lats
http://bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.p ... uscle=Lats
Gironda Sternum Chins
Pullups
Wide Grip Pull Ups

Thursday:Upper/Mid/Lower Chest
2-3 Exercises Per Muscle
4-5 Sets Of 8-12 Reps Depending On Weight
Exercise:


Exercise:
Pushups

Exercise:


Friday:Front/Mid/Back Shoulder Delts, Traps, Abs
2-3 Exercises Per Muscle
4-5 Sets Of 8-12 Reps Depending On Weight
Exercise:

Exercise:


4)Boxing Training
Day 1:
Stretch
Run Few Miles
Burpes
Heavy Bag 3 To 5 Three Minute Rounds 60 Sec Rest
Speed Bag Heavy Bag 4 To 6 Four Minute Rounds 45 Sec Rest

Day 2:
Stretch
Heavy Bag 3 To 5 Three Minute Rounds 60 Sec Rest
Speed Bag Heavy Bag 4 To 6 Four Minute Rounds 45 Sec Rest

Day 3:
Stretch
Sprint
Heavy Bag 3 To 5 Three Minute Rounds 60 Sec Rest
Speed Bag Heavy Bag 4 To 6 Four Minute Rounds 45 Sec Rest



If I TRY TO DO THIS WITH OTHER STUFF I HAVE SAID ABOVE WILL I SEE A DIFFERENCE YES OR NO?

Thats what I want Answered Please And Thank you

[swanso5]

[/quote] Eat 5-6 Meals a Day Healthy 3-4 Normal
Morning,None,None,Night Before 8

not sure what this means

- 1hr of cardio isn't great either...go for qualtiy not quantity..search google for "get off the treadmill, get metabolic" by rachel cosgrove...just did it today and it was extremely hard...bare in mind i don't lift over 6 - 8 reps so conditioning is shit really
- have you got wts or not? if you do then a 3 x full body workout is you're best option...they burn far more cal's and build far more muscle than bodypart splits
- you've got too many ordinary exercises in there which will just waste your time
- is that monday workout 14 exercises long or did i not read it right? i hope i did...
- heavy bag work and sorint work is quite intensive on the nervous system so if your limiting cal's then wts and this is too much for it to handle and you'll hang onto as the body starts to slowly shut down, overtrain etc

[stranger2009]

Eat 5-6 Meals a Day Healthy 3-4 Normal
Morning,None,None,Night Before 8

Kinda wierd right? Just means what times of fay Im eat but I made mistake just reaplce none with noon

not sure what this means

- 1hr of cardio isn't great either...go for quality not quantity..search google for "get off the treadmill, get metabolic" by rachel cosgrove...just did it today and it was extremely hard...bare in mind i don't lift over 6 - 8 reps so conditioning is shit really
- have you got wts or not? if you do then a 3 x full body workout is you're best option...they burn far more cal's and build far more muscle than body part splits
- you've got too many ordinary exercises in there which will just waste your time
- is that monday workout 14 exercises long or did i not read it right? i hope i did...
- heavy bag work and sorint work is quite intensive on the nervous system so if your limiting cal's then wts and this is too much for it to handle and you'll hang onto as the body starts to slowly shut down, overtrain etc

-Well then how many hours of cardio a day is right?
-I stick with 6 to 8 due to goals which are explained to me by many trainers and will not chance that
-I got weights but some, And no I dont like full boy 3 times a week I always worked better with isolation and always felt better anbd seen better results and I also talked to many trainers and they agree its best for what I WANT and that also something I wont change but its not bad
-Each exercise is good if you work them out right
-And no the exercises on the list show which ones I have to choose from not that im doing them all body weight or ones I surly can do are underlined
-No comment on last thing i need more details

Stranger, could you give us an idea as to what groceries your mother buys? Maybe we could help tweak your diet a bit if we knew what you had to work with.

Its weird but we get the same shit ALL IN SMALL AMOUNTS

-been and cheese burritos (a huge case)
-pasta roni
-mac and chees
-what ever she makes for dinner usually is baked beans,mash potatoes,spaghetti some times and etc
-peanut butter and jelly with bread
-very small amount of cheese and such to make sandwichs
-chill beans mild
-a few cans of corn
-a few bags of corn
-little pizzas
-ahhh corn dogs (box)

Cant remember the rest as of right now but not muich diffrent then this shit

[swanso5]

- still don't get it...what does "5 - 6 meals a day healthy 3 -4 normal mean"? does it mean 4 out of 6 of them are good? if so what are the bad one's?
- 20 - 30mins x 2 - 3 a week maximum..search thiose things
- well i'm a trrainer and i say there's too many exercises, too many shit one's of which i'll list right now:

Reverse Plate Curls
Curls
Bench Dips
Skull Crusher
Behind Head
Dips
Pushups Hands Close
Tricep Dumbbell Kickback
Towel Extensions
forearms
Flutter Kicks
Barbell Seated Calf Raise
Stairs
Rocking Standing Calf Raise
Standing Barbell Calf Raise
Donkey Calf Raises
Middle Back Shrug
Rocky Pull-Ups/Pulldowns (???)
Hyperextensions (Back Extensions)
...not to mention the one's not listed and your programming is all ove the place...i think you need a better trainer/s

- isolation is rubbish...it's trainer's like that give me a bad name
- for your food go to the supermarket, take prices of "good" foods then hopefully it's cheaper or not much more then what you get now, show your old girl and she might see "hey this isn;t too bad" and opt to go with it...don't try and change everything at once though or she'll just dismiss it...make it gradual...is is just for you and mum/dad or are their other kids? you might need persuade them also as she won't buy 3 different foods for everyone, well mine didn't and their was 5 of us

[stranger2009]

I agree with Swanso. You can buy healthier food for less money. When you buy novelty items such as corn dogs and mini pizzas, you are paying more for a lesser volume of food. I buy 1-lb bags of frozen veggies, which are $1.39, and bags of Tyson boneless, skinless chicken breasts at $10.00 for five pounds. That equates to $2.00/pound.

The problem you are having is that the rest of your family does not want to change. They have to be willing to eat healthier along with you. If you could convince them to change their eating habits, you would be doing them a favor as well.

Well thank you swanso5 but sorry man Im sticking to isolation lets not talk about which exercises I do and go back to the matter at hand...like I have said before mom wont chance her mind no matter what so i can get healthier foods till I find a job but with no car and this economy its crappy so im just want questions answered or something that can say if I will lose SOME weight and fat or not

[swanso5]

with that plan, you MIGHT lose some WEIGHT but i doubt any fat

i love when people come here for advice, get some bloody stuff then dismiss it because it's not what they want to here

oh well

[vamp]

Stranger, compound excercises burn more fat and are harder to do. If you are truely interrested in getting healthier quit making stupid choices and decissions. Quit the lazy isolation crap excercises, get off your butt and start doing compound excercises. There is no half way let me be lazy way of doing this. As Yoda says "Do or do not, there is no try" and as the song says "Move it!".

cheers

[stranger2009]

Sorry for the late reply,

with that plan, you MIGHT lose some WEIGHT but i doubt any fat

i love when people come here for advice, get some bloody stuff then dismiss it because it's not what they want to here

oh well

No dont get me wrong I am thankful and im taking all this into perspective

Well, if there really is no way to change, then you need to do the best you can with timing.

Cheese or peanut butter without bread or jelly would be okay later in the day. Try eating some protein with it. Eat meat with your corn or beans and try to keep higher carb sources to the early part of the day.

If I take pictures of like all the same foods mom buys everyday could you guys maybe help me try to decide the right ones to eat and combos? I don't know much about eating healthy I could be having food I dont even know about that healthy

Stranger, compound exercises burn more fat and are harder to do. If you are truly interested in getting healthier quit making stupid choices and decisions. Quit the lazy isolation crap exercises, get off your butt and start doing compound excercises. There is no half way let me be lazy way of doing this. As Yoda says "Do or do not, there is no try" and as the song says "Move it!".

cheers

A)Well What If i combined compound and isolation together?
B) Is there a list of compound exercises that work all body every single muscle?
C) If I do go to compound could I only do it 3 times a week and go do some kick boxing the other days a week?

[swanso5]

- do the food photo thing
- deadlifts work almost every muscle at once...all you need is a deadlift, chin up and bench press variation each workout and you're set
- 3 x wts (compounds), kiickboxing x 2 - 3/week and you're well on your way is food is decent

[Sunlight.Fades]

This question is for vamp or swanso5....what compound exercises do you suggest for him to do? Perhaps it was already said, I'm just tired and don't want to muddle through the 2nd page of the post

Can't help the tiredness....first night back to work.

[swanso5]

deadlifts
squats
lunges
rows
chin/pull ups
bench presses
shoulder presses

and all their variations of which there are many