Interval Training

JTRz13 · Post by **JTRz13** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:38 pm

swanso5 wrote:light wts won't do anything...grow some nuts and get under a heavy bar for first time in your life...

heavy wt = high intensity

sprints and intervals are different...one is continuous and the other isn't...i thought that was pretty obvious for an interval freak such as yourself

ripped you say.....

Yeah, dude, but intervals(sprints-jogging to sprints) are more effective than sprint-stop, sprint again. So, why would the former be 4 and the latter be 3?

And anyway, let me get this straight. You're saying that doing it as much as 6 times can be damaging on the central nervous system or whatever, and I'd have better results if I did it less times per week?
Sorry, but that just sounds ridiculous to me. Besides, what I'm doing is working.
Just clarify for me. Because if what I'm doing is damaging me in some way, I want to know.

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:46 pm

i think it's overkill...fitness training is about the only subject in the world where more is not better...if you cut it to 3 sessions/week i bet you'd get the same results if not better...YOUR body would always be in a state of recovery if your doing 3 wt sessions as well for instance...thye body can only tolerate so much and once it reaches it's threashold, it will start rejecting your training and you'll gain fat

do you have those days when you're tired for no reason after good food and rest etc/ that's nervous system overtraining, motivation and therefore performance outout will decrease soon after if you don't schedule in recovery

don't get me wrong i'm all for intervals for 90% of the population but to think it;s the end all of fat loss is wishful thinking and as stated above is only rated the 4th best fat loss option in book

JTRz13 · Post by **JTRz13** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:54 pm

swanso5 wrote:i think it's overkill...fitness training is about the only subject in the world where more is not better...if you cut it to 3 sessions/week i bet you'd get the same results if not better...YOUR body would always be in a state of recovery if your doing 3 wt sessions as well for instance...thye body can only tolerate so much and once it reaches it's threashold, it will start rejecting your training and you'll gain fat

do you have those days when you're tired for no reason after good food and rest etc/ that's nervous system overtraining, motivation and therefore performance outout will decrease soon after if you don't schedule in recovery

don't get me wrong i'm all for intervals for 90% of the population but to think it;s the end all of fat loss is wishful thinking and as stated above is only rated the 4th best fat loss option in book

Huh...Well, that makes sense, I guess. I had no idea intervals/sprinting broke down your body like that. Well, thanks, then. I'll cut it down to 3 times and see what happens.
It still boggles me as to why you think it's "4th" best. I guess different things work for different people...

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:14 am

it's all about EPOC or exercise post oxygen consumption which is basically your metabolism...the more intense you can do something, the more EPOC you'll get so you're metabolism will be raised for longer...metabolism is the most factor factor in body composition and once it drops (muscle loss, calorie restriction etc) then your fat loss will stop, guaranteed...in that case adequate calories, heavy wts and as fast as you can sprints are better than intervals....if i got you to all out sprint for 50m, you'd run way faster than doing a 50m sprint on the treadmill no doubt

Boss Man · Post by **Boss Man** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:56 pm

I'm well aware dude of what interval is and how good it can be, but the original poster said interval 30 mins pretty much every day.

Yes there is a difference between interval and stuff like 10 mile runs everyday, for Marathon training as an example, but good Cardio goes bad when it's overkill.

Your body has limits, and if you do weights, then expect optimal results, when you're taxing the body for 30 minutes a day, with something hard like Interval, then optimal results won't happen, unless you want a 110lb body with a 6-pac, and stringy muscle condition.

P.S. Swanso is credible, Swanso is a PT, hence why he's able to post so often. Most people who know little to nothing, couldn't post that many times, with just a load of questions, and a few supportive Well done you type posts, unless they were people posting loads of B.S. or sneaky posts, saying I agree, I concur, to stuff they don't know.

In which case such fakers usually get no respect, and get turfed off, because a few nice comments to people, won't cover up their deliberate fakery.

Still it's good to see since yesterday, you appear to have mellowed a bit more, and are cutting down the B.S. at you kind of talk, and being more community minded.

We're willing to accept people like you, but not when we know who the knowledgable players are, and then some new guy like you rounds on people, he's not even checked for cred, or post quality.

So if you feel we needlessly railed at you, for your B.S. at you type attitude, sorry, but that's how boards like ours work, as a community, and we look out for our own.

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:31 pm

Boss Man wrote:I'm well aware dude of what interval is and how good

Your body has limits, and if you do weights, then expect optimal results, when you're taxing the body for 30 minutes a day, with something hard like Interval, then optimal results won't happen, unless you want a 110lb body with a 6-pac, and stringy muscle condition.

Well see Boss Man the thing is is that I don't think I have that great of a metabolism.

I weigh 180lbs but whenever I don't do interval training for 30 mins I start to gain weight, and I really want to lose weight but still be muscular.

I do have muscles, they are large and noticible, no one would say that I am fat by any means but they would just say that I am a muscular guy, the thing is muscles just are not cut and I think interval training will get me there.

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:05 pm

i would alter your eating and wts program before adding in intervals

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:46 pm

FYI I burn 577 cals every run.

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:28 pm

those counters on the machines are never right

JTRz13 · Post by **JTRz13** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:15 pm

swanso5 wrote:it's all about EPOC or exercise post oxygen consumption which is basically your metabolism...the more intense you can do something, the more EPOC you'll get so you're metabolism will be raised for longer...metabolism is the most factor factor in body composition and once it drops (muscle loss, calorie restriction etc) then your fat loss will stop, guaranteed...in that case adequate calories, heavy wts and as fast as you can sprints are better than intervals....if i got you to all out sprint for 50m, you'd run way faster than doing a 50m sprint on the treadmill no doubt

Yeah, man- but the intervals I'm doing are harder than regular sprints, because I don't stop moving. I'm actually sprinting even more distance than 50m. About 80 or so, I think.

HOUSTON TEXAN · Post by **HOUSTON TEXAN** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:20 pm

swanso5 wrote:those counters on the machines are never right

I used the calculator on this website.

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:10 pm

i still wouldn;t take it as gospel...it's almost impossible to know how many cal's you burn at anytime

your intensity would be higher if you rested bwteen sprints...you don't do light bench presses in between heavy one's do you???

JTRz13 · Post by **JTRz13** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:26 pm

swanso5 wrote:
your intensity would be higher if you rested bwteen sprints...you don't do light bench presses in between heavy one's do you???

Ok, swans...That does not make any sense. At all.

If you rest after a sprint, you catch some of your breath- making it easier. However, if you you continue to run at a moderate pace, the next sprint becomes a lot harder.

Besides, I've done both- I know which one is harder, let alone more effective. I barely burned any fat when I just did regular sprints.

I don't really think you're completely knowledgeable on this specific subject- I'm just saying.

Make sure you address every part of reply.

swanso5 · Post by **swanso5** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:48 pm

if you rest between each sprint then of course you'll be able to run the next one faster than if you didn't rest right?? if you don't rest than you won't be able to run as fast compared to if you did rest

this is all pretty clear case stuff...

people get tired so they have a short rest because they know if they didn't, their training quality would decrease...once quality decreases so does intensity

if you've got 3 hours a day to train and like accumulating than moderate intensity stuff is the way to go...me i'm not so much into it

JTRz13 · Post by **JTRz13** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:29 pm

swanso5 wrote:if you rest between each sprint then of course you'll be able to run the next one faster than if you didn't rest right?? if you don't rest than you won't be able to run as fast compared to if you did rest

this is all pretty clear case stuff...

people get tired so they have a short rest because they know if they didn't, their training quality would decrease...once quality decreases so does intensity

if you've got 3 hours a day to train and like accumulating than moderate intensity stuff is the way to go...me i'm not so much into it

Ah-Ha! This is the part where I prove you wrong, brah. It is true that you will slow down, but your body will be working harder when you go for your next sprint. You won't move as fast, but, providing you're running as fast as you possibly can, the lack of breath means more intensity. It's all about shocking your body, not how fast you're running.

What you're saying is a sort of logic that sounds rational, but really isn't. In fact, I used to think the exact same thing. That's why, at one point, I switched to regular sprinting.