Fat Acceptance Kooks Trashing the Late Jack LaLanne

[scottgaran]

Jeliousy rears it's ugly head. As I read some of their feedback on Jack, it became appearant how miserable these people are. It is actually sad, because I would love to help these haters. They hate, because they hate themeselves. Because of their self hatred, they project it onto something they wish they had, such as Jack's wonderful life. These are sad people.

[Bonnie]

I understand, though I think they more changes these people elicit to keep their size acceptable, the less motivation they will have to change.

[fitoverforty]

if more than half of the population is overweight/obese, we should find ways to accommodate them.

even tho' that makes us angry, it is a valid point. The word "accommodate" is defined as "to adjust or become adjusted; adapt ; to allow room for; contain" it is not an acceptance per say or saying "it's okay" it is just a matter of reality.

No we should NOT make plane seats etc for those people they should have to walk or not travel until they adhere to the same rules as the rest of the world does.

also, a valid point, and I feel the same alot of times, but sadly, for the folks who are already morbidly obese and need an ambulance - the ambulance drivers can't refuse them service, just because they are heavy and can't fit onto the stretchers - they have to find ways to "accommodate" them - not saying they think it is right or okay to be that way, it is just that they face the reality of the situation every day, and have to find ways to do their job.
Now the airline seats are another story....I don't think they should make all seats larger, just a few in a separate section maybe? I don't know what the answer is. But normal weighted people are sadly becoming the lesser of the population - that's just reality. I see it everyday, everywhere I go.

As I read some of their feedback on Jack, it became appearant how miserable these people are. It is actually sad, because I would love to help these haters.

I was really shocked at the level of meanness and hate being spewed on that site. At first I thought some of it was laughable, like they were joking- surely they can't really feel that way, or believe that gluttony is the "in" thing, but then as I read more, I realized that is exactly what they think - to such an extent that they make jokes about how they are going to die young, all because they won't give up their gluttonous lifestyle. I am really bothered by that.

[Bonnie]

If there wish is to die, rather than give up stuffing their faces, so be it.Just don't tie up the medical system & tax dollars while doing it. So some person who works on their health dies instead because they can't get medical attention.Awhile back on the news they mentioned a proposal to give out credits to those people who make an effort to maintain a healthy weight & to fine those who do not, makes sense to me.

[Boss Man]

They started talking in some places in Britain, about a "Fat Tax" on new take away places of around £1,000, though some owners of businesses of type, complain the tax should be on the consumer not them, but then say if they raise their prices, to recoup the money paid in taxes, people will got to the next person down the street who doesn't.

There is already a minimum price on alcohol supposedly being introduced, if I recall rightly, but maybe a minimum price of Fat. I think if you could add a certain amount onto the price of a fast food meal, based on the how many grams of saturates, hydrogenates and trans-fats there are, with a mimum tarrif of upto X number of grams, followed by a sliding scale, based on added fat content, with the nutritional information being mandatory to disclose on packaging and businesses being independantly assessed, to make sure they are not lying about their content, to ramp up prices unfairly to their customers.

Anyway, It's claimed the taxes would be used to promote better health and reduce waste caused by such resturants / takeaways.

For me I feel consumers could pay more, but I do feel it's definitely the owners choice to run those places and they shouldn't complain about it. Why should some guy open a fast food place, when if they feel they have cusine based customer service abilities, why not open a bistro, or a cafe, or a resturant or gastro-pub, that serves better food?

Alternatively use the skills acquired to work in an establishment for another 1-2 years, that serves food they are not too familiar with, then open an eaterie with that kind of food in it.

Alternatiely, run a non-food based business.

I don't see someones logic to complain about being taxed on their food, when they could open up with a business that sold healthier food and if you claim you don't have the skills to make and sell healthier food, but do have an abiltiy to make food of some kind, work somewhere where you can get the skills for 12-24 months, then open your business.

The only slight downside is, you might have found a great premises, then 2 years later, have to open up 3 miles waay instead.

Going back to the original statements though, people who are addicted to something, like lots of crappy food and / or stimulents, firstly need help, then have to want it I feel.

[Boss Man]

But I wish they do away with tobacco products

I agree.

2 Stupid things.

1. Spot fines of £50 for littering butts, only brought in about 5-6 years ago and before then butts were not included in any littering laws, hence why they had to bring in a seperate one just for butts.

2. Cyanide has not been legal to buy in Britain since about 1972, but it is a product released in tobacco smoke, so it seems you still can somehow.

I admit though, I like the way people being taxed on fatty food are claiming they're being told what to eat. It was probably a lot more deep than that, but the fact is it's some peoples choice to eat loads of rubbishy food, so if they get taxed on it, they shouldn't complain.

I bet most people don't complain when they pay tax on horse racing bets, or car fuel, they just do it, even people that don't need to use a car and could go on public transport.

[PandorasVise]

When I see the fat acceptance people, I get sad for them. They have given up and instead for working, and it is work, to find out why they are fat and what behavorial things they can do to it. I was once HUGE and it really wasn't' the counting calories and cardio that fixed weight. It was behavior. It was eating slowly and at the table with no distractions like television. It was making homemade meals with real foods instead of the quick and easy packaged stuff. It was getting rid of everything "diet" that I had been consuming, like every other fat person and still getting fatter. It was relearning how full felt. Seriously, I thought full was that discomfort you feel after eating too much. Mostly becasue I ate so fast that by the time brain sent me signals to stop eating, I already had way too much.

Soon as I got some small milestones, I started to feel better about myself, and then doing more things that I had always wanted to do like tennis and karate. I remember beck in the 'dieting' days how I would walk for exercise with friends and then we would 'reward' ourselves with 100 calorie packs of processed crap and some crystal light.

Those people rag on Jack Lelane becasue they have lost all hope, and they aren't happy. People who accept themselves don't go around slamming others for how they are.

[Boss Man]

I can agree about Fat acceptance people giving up. Why accept being in a condition that isn't good for you. People can be genetically predisposed to being fat, but it isn't a natural thing and the more factors that govern being fat, that have entered into normal everyday life, the more being fat has gone on the increase, relative to the percentage number of fat people versus population.

It's a case of act or don't act, but whilst being healthy doesn't prevent medical problems, or become a magic bullet or shield against any possible forms of reduction, to physical ability or quality of life, it does make more sense and become more logical and rational than being fat and accepting the fact.

[scottgaran]

Sorry brent boy I have to disagree. Fat people do reproduce and attract other mates. Go to Walmart for proof!

[Bonnie]

Lmfao...you've seen those pictures too..

[scottgaran]

Hell, I shop there. Hope I'm not in any of those pics!

[Bonnie]

roflmao..can't say I seen you in any, someone posted some on face book one day

[scottgaran]

I have no idea what makes people decide to dress ike they do. i am no fashionesta, but I don't wear pink shorts from the 70's with a Steelers jersey!

[Bonnie]

Are you serious ?!!

[Bonnie]

Ohh thought u meant the store provides scooters, yeah we have them, got run down by one once years ago. By the time I picked myself off the ground he was a block away already. Ended up with wrist surgery for that.