Fat Around Button Area?
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Re: Fat Around Button Area?
Great job Martin!
Re: Fat Around Button Area?
Thankscassiegose wrote:Great job Martin!
Starting to feel a bit rough again though, same sorta time as yesterday too 
Think ive covered protein today, and i don't think im overating on calories?
For tomorow, have a pratical exam at college, about 6 hours, so probably be tired, but maybe i should do weights tomorow? Or maybe a rest.
Got a bit out of routine this week
Arms keep clicking too when i move them back and fourth (left one clicks more than right)-
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Re: Fat Around Button Area?
Is tomorrow scheduled to be a weight day or off day? If its supposed to be weights do them, if not take the day off.MartinBoy wrote:Thankscassiegose wrote:Great job Martin!
Think ive covered protein today, and i don't think im overating on calories?
For tomorow, have a pratical exam at college, about 6 hours, so probably be tired, but maybe i should do weights tomorow? Or maybe a rest.
Got a bit out of routine this week
I don't know if you're over eating in calories as you're measuring or counting so I have no idea how much youre eating or how much youre eating. If you want to know if you're overeating in calories you need to measure and track them.
Re: Fat Around Button Area?
Day 305
Breakfast, protein shake with semi skimmed milk, porridge oats with semi skimmed milk.
Break and lunch - 4 slices of wholemeal bread, with sliced chicken pieces and peanut butter.
Just got home from college, 5:50pm, hard day, started exam 8 30 finished 5pm. legs are killing me as been using them all day with steel toe cap boots on, but good news is i passed exam Just, i was going to do weights today, but ive got a headache, legs are hurting, could just really do with a rest to be honest, legs are even hurting just from sitting down, so it's double worse when standing, add on trying to do weights lol, i could do them today if i really wanted i suppose, but perhaps i better save energy and start tomorow as ive got most the day free, so should be able to perform better.
Should just have today as day off then.
Dinner cooking, mums put on some cod fillets, about 15.5g protein, 230 cal 12g fat, however i think the fat is coming from the batter, so il just take that off, and it'll remove alot of the calories too, think she's doing them with potato waffles, i dunno if these are good or bad? I would assume bad, so maybe il have some beans later.
as long as nutrtion stays good.
Had dinner, fish, took batter off, peas, had 1 potato waffle, had more on plate tho, but had 1 as 1 was 105 cals, 5g fat.
Substitued the other waffle for a wholemeal slice.
Had a bannana and some orange juice.
Protein shake with semi skimmed milk, so i could save the kidney beans and salmon for workout tomorow.
Dispite not working out today there's another problem, from the exam earlier i now have about 7 blisters in right hand alone, on the palms, would this affect working out? I have gloves which i normally use, so i was hoping it shouldn't be a problem?
I often find i have the munchies, i try eating things like tomatoes, but it doesn't seem to go away.
Breakfast, protein shake with semi skimmed milk, porridge oats with semi skimmed milk.
Break and lunch - 4 slices of wholemeal bread, with sliced chicken pieces and peanut butter.
Just got home from college, 5:50pm, hard day, started exam 8 30 finished 5pm. legs are killing me as been using them all day with steel toe cap boots on, but good news is i passed exam
Just, i was going to do weights today, but ive got a headache, legs are hurting, could just really do with a rest to be honest, legs are even hurting just from sitting down, so it's double worse when standing, add on trying to do weights lol, i could do them today if i really wanted i suppose, but perhaps i better save energy and start tomorow as ive got most the day free, so should be able to perform better.Should just have today as day off then.
Dinner cooking, mums put on some cod fillets, about 15.5g protein, 230 cal 12g fat, however i think the fat is coming from the batter, so il just take that off, and it'll remove alot of the calories too, think she's doing them with potato waffles, i dunno if these are good or bad? I would assume bad, so maybe il have some beans later.
as long as nutrtion stays good.Had dinner, fish, took batter off, peas, had 1 potato waffle, had more on plate tho, but had 1 as 1 was 105 cals, 5g fat.
Substitued the other waffle for a wholemeal slice.Had a bannana and some orange juice.
Protein shake with semi skimmed milk, so i could save the kidney beans and salmon for workout tomorow.
Dispite not working out today there's another problem, from the exam earlier i now have about 7 blisters in right hand alone, on the palms, would this affect working out? I have gloves which i normally use, so i was hoping it shouldn't be a problem?
I often find i have the munchies, i try eating things like tomatoes, but it doesn't seem to go away
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Day 306
Breakfast, protein shake with semi skimmed milk, wheatabix x3 with semi skimmed milk.
Driving lesson soon then workout later, need to look good for the summer!!
Saying that it's very hot today, had lesson went fairly well i feel.
Just checking a few things on the computer, probably going to have something to eat and then do weights, chest and triceps, probably do some dips on chairs, might buy some push up stands to support wrists seeing as il be doing them on wood (decking lol)
2 Slices of wholemeal bread, half can of salmon.
Workout chest and triceps
3 sets of push up, first 20 reps, 2nd on fists, 15 reps, 3rd wide - 11reps.
54kg barbell bench press (uped the weight by 4kg), first 2 sets reps 7, then next set was just 4, so tried to do more and managed 4, again.
Where i didn't feel i did enough on the press, had 17kg dumbbells, and did flat dumbbell press (on floor) 3 sets reps 7-8
17kg dumbbell flys, 4 sets because i wasn't able to do as many reps, found this harder than normal today, and i do them with not full motion i mean, like elbows are locked, which probably isn't the best way to do them, but if i go all the way back and don't have arms bent it's nearly impossible to do them, so did anything from 4-7 reps
Then came inside, did chair dips, 3 sets reps 4-6
10KG dumbbell, kickback 3 sets each arm reps 6-7, however it was above elbow that was more red, so i hope ive done it right and that elbows don't start clicking.
Rest of can of salmon when i came in.
You see, it may seem like im moaning now but im not, it's just frustrating when you're eating all these foods where it's the nutrtion that's ment to be the hard bit and failing to workout to the max.
Sunday the fullbody workout went well, but just chest and triceps today i feel wasn't that good, sure you get off and on days but this isn't really good enough to be honest. I need a program where i can make solid strength gains i feel too weak. I'm not a weakling but i feel weak and want to really push things, im so determined but what's the point in being determined if i half know what im doing?
REALLY hope tomorow goes better - back and biceps, but even then i don't know a solid routine, backs pretty simple, pull ups, bent over barbell rows, dumbbell rows, biceps straight away you think curls, but is that it?
Triceps i don't really do well on which is a big shame and chest never feels sore, just always hurts, even saw doctor today but he said blood pressure and heartbeat was fine so..
Oh mann need some equipment, but paying out too much at the moment it's all bad!!!!!! Help!! lol
Apple
Wholemeal roll - 167 cals, few slices of cooked ham, few tablespoons of fat free yogurt it's 500g (per 100g i believe is 48 cals,, 5.6g protein, 6g carb, which i suppose are sugar? None is added.
Hope it's going well
Dinner - mushrooms, some tomatos, jacket potato (Big) see a don't know how many calories things like potatoes have in them as they don't say, was going to eat it but still hot, plus might leave it for a while so i can have red kidney beans with it later.
Say i was getting enough protein, which i believe i am, but not eating 2500 calories, is this all pointless?
So yeah had dinner, ate most the jacket and a can of red kidney beans with it.
Some orange juice
2 small squares of galaxy cookie choc.
Breakfast, protein shake with semi skimmed milk, wheatabix x3 with semi skimmed milk.
Driving lesson soon then workout later, need to look good for the summer!!
Saying that it's very hot today, had lesson went fairly well i feel.
Just checking a few things on the computer, probably going to have something to eat and then do weights, chest and triceps, probably do some dips on chairs, might buy some push up stands to support wrists seeing as il be doing them on wood (decking lol)
2 Slices of wholemeal bread, half can of salmon.
Workout chest and triceps
3 sets of push up, first 20 reps, 2nd on fists, 15 reps, 3rd wide - 11reps.
54kg barbell bench press (uped the weight by 4kg), first 2 sets reps 7, then next set was just 4, so tried to do more and managed 4, again.
Where i didn't feel i did enough on the press, had 17kg dumbbells, and did flat dumbbell press (on floor) 3 sets reps 7-8
17kg dumbbell flys, 4 sets because i wasn't able to do as many reps, found this harder than normal today, and i do them with not full motion i mean, like elbows are locked, which probably isn't the best way to do them, but if i go all the way back and don't have arms bent it's nearly impossible to do them, so did anything from 4-7 reps
Then came inside, did chair dips, 3 sets reps 4-6
10KG dumbbell, kickback 3 sets each arm reps 6-7, however it was above elbow that was more red, so i hope ive done it right and that elbows don't start clicking.
Rest of can of salmon when i came in.
You see, it may seem like im moaning now but im not, it's just frustrating when you're eating all these foods where it's the nutrtion that's ment to be the hard bit and failing to workout to the max.
Sunday the fullbody workout went well, but just chest and triceps today i feel wasn't that good, sure you get off and on days but this isn't really good enough to be honest. I need a program where i can make solid strength gains i feel too weak. I'm not a weakling but i feel weak and want to really push things, im so determined but what's the point in being determined if i half know what im doing?
REALLY hope tomorow goes better - back and biceps, but even then i don't know a solid routine, backs pretty simple, pull ups, bent over barbell rows, dumbbell rows, biceps straight away you think curls, but is that it?
Triceps i don't really do well on which is a big shame and chest never feels sore, just always hurts, even saw doctor today but he said blood pressure and heartbeat was fine so..
Oh mann need some equipment, but paying out too much at the moment it's all bad!!!!!! Help!! lol
Apple
Wholemeal roll - 167 cals, few slices of cooked ham, few tablespoons of fat free yogurt it's 500g (per 100g i believe is 48 cals,, 5.6g protein, 6g carb, which i suppose are sugar? None is added.
Hope it's going well
Dinner - mushrooms, some tomatos, jacket potato (Big) see a don't know how many calories things like potatoes have in them as they don't say, was going to eat it but still hot, plus might leave it for a while so i can have red kidney beans with it later.
Say i was getting enough protein, which i believe i am, but not eating 2500 calories, is this all pointless?
So yeah had dinner, ate most the jacket and a can of red kidney beans with it.
Some orange juice
2 small squares of galaxy cookie choc.
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Day 307
Breakfast, protein shake with semi skimmed milk, porridge oats with semi skimmed milk.
Apple.
Wholemeal roll, few bits of thick slice cooked ham, couple tablespoons of yogurt.
Going to do workout now - Back and biceps.
Did workout
Back
4 sets of pull ups 1st set was 9 reps, others im thinking were 6 but i have 4 in head for some reason, but im sure i did more than 4 reps. espically when i did 9 on the first set.
50kg barbell bent over rows 3 sets reps 6-7
20KG dumbbell row (kneeling on bench) 3 sets reps 10 each arm
Biceps
12kg dumbbell curl (did these one at a time why i said curl and not curls), 3 sets each arm reps 6-8
10kg hammer curl, 3 sets reps 4-6 each arm
10kg on barbell, reverse curls, 3 sets reps 7-8
Finished.
See, it feels like ive worked out but im really dissapointed in myself, although ive noticed some nice changes to body since starting this routine (almost a year ago), i don't feel good in myself.
I should be much stronger, i really want to get stronger ive never felt weak in myself like even when i was younger i thought of myself as you know a bit strong, but im not, i think i really need to change things because carrying on like this isn't getting me no gains or getting me anywhere. I feel biceps are worked out a little but there not in terrible pain nor is back, like i said before it's not that i want them to be but how else am i ment to know ive done enough, i haven't made ANY major gains, and i feel im eating all these different foods (not that i don't like them) and im not getting stronger no bigger, any suggestions on how to switch things up? Maybe im being hard on myself, but i wouldn't be if i was lifting more or bigger.
Sorry to seem like im moaning, it would of drove me mad by now if i had to read it, by all means i'll leave if you guys have had enough im selfish to keep moaning i should keep things to myself. So please if it's really bothering any of you say. I'm just so frustrated and always have alot of aggression, with college, getting a job which is linked, not sure if i want to do it anymore just so much crap going on, could actually cry cant even explain just ahhhhhh!!!!!!!
Anyway enough of lifestory going to have something to eat in a while, not got alot of foods here, and hate in a way having to take protein powder when i break wind just makes it stink, i believe its the powder.
Protein shake with semi skimmed milk.
Dinner - green beans, a small jacket potato and 2 chicken portions (removed skin)
did leave out some chicken stripes but think ive had enough protein today.
May go away again this weekend, need a break i think, however was going to do weights saturday and cardio tomorow, but probably have to change it up if this is the case and do shoulders and legs tomorow, although that makes it weights 3 days in a row its different muscle groups?
And then do the cardio the sunday im back ?
Wholemeal roll.
Back and top of shoulders are hurting a little? Like aching, dunno why, worked out back and biceps.. however when i did reverse curls shoulders were going back a bit, maybe it's just the motion.
But yeah haven't decided if im going away for couple days yet, if so then weights again?
Breakfast, protein shake with semi skimmed milk, porridge oats with semi skimmed milk.
Apple.
Wholemeal roll, few bits of thick slice cooked ham, couple tablespoons of yogurt.
Going to do workout now - Back and biceps.
Did workout
Back
4 sets of pull ups 1st set was 9 reps, others im thinking were 6 but i have 4 in head for some reason, but im sure i did more than 4 reps. espically when i did 9 on the first set.
50kg barbell bent over rows 3 sets reps 6-7
20KG dumbbell row (kneeling on bench) 3 sets reps 10 each arm
Biceps
12kg dumbbell curl (did these one at a time why i said curl and not curls), 3 sets each arm reps 6-8
10kg hammer curl, 3 sets reps 4-6 each arm
10kg on barbell, reverse curls, 3 sets reps 7-8
Finished.
See, it feels like ive worked out but im really dissapointed in myself, although ive noticed some nice changes to body since starting this routine (almost a year ago), i don't feel good in myself.
I should be much stronger, i really want to get stronger ive never felt weak in myself like even when i was younger i thought of myself as you know a bit strong, but im not, i think i really need to change things because carrying on like this isn't getting me no gains or getting me anywhere. I feel biceps are worked out a little but there not in terrible pain nor is back, like i said before it's not that i want them to be but how else am i ment to know ive done enough, i haven't made ANY major gains, and i feel im eating all these different foods (not that i don't like them) and im not getting stronger no bigger, any suggestions on how to switch things up? Maybe im being hard on myself, but i wouldn't be if i was lifting more or bigger.
Sorry to seem like im moaning, it would of drove me mad by now if i had to read it, by all means i'll leave if you guys have had enough im selfish to keep moaning i should keep things to myself. So please if it's really bothering any of you say. I'm just so frustrated and always have alot of aggression, with college, getting a job which is linked, not sure if i want to do it anymore just so much crap going on, could actually cry cant even explain just ahhhhhh!!!!!!!
Anyway enough of lifestory going to have something to eat in a while, not got alot of foods here, and hate in a way having to take protein powder when i break wind just makes it stink, i believe its the powder.
Protein shake with semi skimmed milk.
Dinner - green beans, a small jacket potato and 2 chicken portions (removed skin)
did leave out some chicken stripes but think ive had enough protein today.
May go away again this weekend, need a break i think, however was going to do weights saturday and cardio tomorow, but probably have to change it up if this is the case and do shoulders and legs tomorow, although that makes it weights 3 days in a row its different muscle groups?
And then do the cardio the sunday im back ?
Wholemeal roll.
Back and top of shoulders are hurting a little? Like aching, dunno why, worked out back and biceps.. however when i did reverse curls shoulders were going back a bit, maybe it's just the motion.
But yeah haven't decided if im going away for couple days yet, if so then weights again?
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Day 308
Breakfast protein shake with semi skimmed milk, wheatabix x3 with semi skimmed milk.
Wholemeal roll, few ham slices.
Workout Shoulders + Legs
Legs
50kg barbell deadlifts x3 reps 8.
20kg dumbbells x2, Squats 10 reps 3 sets.
20kg dumbbells x2,Lunges 10 reps 3 sets (5 per leg)
Shoulders
20kg dumbbells x2 Shoulder shrugs3 sets reps 10
16kg dumbbells x2 (did one arm at a time) Dumbbell press/shoulder press3 sets reps 6-7
5kg dumbbells x2 Reverse flys reps 7-8
8kg dumbbells x2 Side raises3 sets reps 7.
Right shoulder inparticular is a bit sore now.
Had few handfuls of chicken stripes after.
If im overeating in protein but not calories, will i still gain but just flush out what is not needed? Because where i only have a rough estimate of how much protein im getting. But i do do best.
Not really eating set meals at times, just eating now and then, like snacking on the bits of chicken, as long as im eating enough.
Parents got a chinese, did me a plate although i said i didn't want none..
All it's going to do is get me fat. Wether i want it or not.
Wholemeal roll, peanut butter and some chicken stripes - 300 cals prob.
Been a bit picky today but been working out calories in head and haven't even eaten 2500.
Some oats with semi skimmed milk, chicken stripes snacking on still.
Had some of the rice off of the chinese plate, probably shouldn't but was hungry, probably isn't that bad, just is where it's fried, still going to go on the bike early morning so hopefully il make up for it there, as i don't want to get any fatter. God the scary feeling of looking down and seeing folded over fat, hoping the rice/ small bit of chinese won't hurt. Really let go of myself sometimes!!
I feel it would benefit me more if i had a set time for meals etc, but id be hard to keep on track for example you could be delayed, i don't think anyone has a set time they stick to for certain meals, i mainly just eat when im hungry but have bene doing a bit when bored, i feel if i had a bit of a meal routine i could succeed easier.
Breakfast protein shake with semi skimmed milk, wheatabix x3 with semi skimmed milk.
Wholemeal roll, few ham slices.
Workout Shoulders + Legs
Legs
50kg barbell deadlifts x3 reps 8.
20kg dumbbells x2, Squats 10 reps 3 sets.
20kg dumbbells x2,Lunges 10 reps 3 sets (5 per leg)
Shoulders
20kg dumbbells x2 Shoulder shrugs3 sets reps 10
16kg dumbbells x2 (did one arm at a time) Dumbbell press/shoulder press3 sets reps 6-7
5kg dumbbells x2 Reverse flys reps 7-8
8kg dumbbells x2 Side raises3 sets reps 7.
Right shoulder inparticular is a bit sore now.
Had few handfuls of chicken stripes after.
If im overeating in protein but not calories, will i still gain but just flush out what is not needed? Because where i only have a rough estimate of how much protein im getting. But i do do best.
Not really eating set meals at times, just eating now and then, like snacking on the bits of chicken, as long as im eating enough.
Parents got a chinese, did me a plate although i said i didn't want none..
All it's going to do is get me fat. Wether i want it or not.
Wholemeal roll, peanut butter and some chicken stripes - 300 cals prob.
Been a bit picky today but been working out calories in head and haven't even eaten 2500.
Some oats with semi skimmed milk, chicken stripes snacking on still.
Had some of the rice off of the chinese plate, probably shouldn't but was hungry, probably isn't that bad, just is where it's fried, still going to go on the bike early morning so hopefully il make up for it there, as i don't want to get any fatter. God the scary feeling of looking down and seeing folded over fat, hoping the rice/ small bit of chinese won't hurt. Really let go of myself sometimes!!
I feel it would benefit me more if i had a set time for meals etc, but id be hard to keep on track for example you could be delayed, i don't think anyone has a set time they stick to for certain meals, i mainly just eat when im hungry but have bene doing a bit when bored, i feel if i had a bit of a meal routine i could succeed easier.
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Day 309
Going away for a day just a short break, so did 30mins cardio this morning, not super fast but 30mins worth of cycling.
Now going to have protein shake and wheatabix and hopefully continue to eat well, il do best and maybe do cardio when im back again tomorow.
Going away for a day just a short break, so did 30mins cardio this morning, not super fast but 30mins worth of cycling.
Now going to have protein shake and wheatabix and hopefully continue to eat well, il do best and maybe do cardio when im back again tomorow.
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Day 310
I'm back, didn't even know i was gone
Eated as best as i could, had wheatabix, semi skimmed milk, wholemeal rolls, chick peas, chicken, prawns, cottage cheese, tuna, lettuce, mainly GOOD stuff.
Probably have a protein shake in a while to get more protein as it's late now, and just been on the bike to burn some calories incase im going over. Just went on bike for 20mins, was tired and wasn't going to bother, but im determined to do this, was on the beach and saw alot of "average" bodys, and made me want to be in a way better, even more. I just have a few questions to ask though.
Firstly, i had like yesterday, a carton of orange juice from concentrate (so basically just orange juice no added sugar), it was only 80 calories, but 20% sugar, now im not too sure with sugar, in opinion it was fine to have as long as it wasn't added, so natural, like this? But how much sugar should i really be having, same with fat really, i normally eat enough protein, but could probably do with more carbs to be honest.
So yeah mainly asking, about sugars and is it ok to have them as long as there natural like fruits.
Secondly about nutrition and working out, i was trying to work out in head how many calories i have had (keeping to 2535) but it's hard to do and was really annoying at times remembering and actually annoying me, i hope it doesn't make me worry so much and cause me problems (hair loss) haha. But yeah you have to be like this i guess if you want to look good, mainly asking here is, like for example where i just got in, late evening, did a decent amount of walking so probably could of gave the cardio a miss - where im trying to gain MUSCLE mass, but not actually fat (don't want to increase fat) im thinking the best way to go about this, in terms of cardio, workout routine at the moment is monday - chest triceps, however im lacking with the triceps and dunno if i should change things up, tuesday - back and biceps, wednesday rest or cardio, thursday - shoulders and legs, but not sure if i should be doing shoulders and maybe add military press with things like chest workout? Friday rest or cardio, saturday - full body (well try to if im not too injured lol) and sunday rest or cardio.
Im not sure if i should be doing cardio if im trying to gain muscle mass but of course i need to stay fit, but not lose any more weight. Plus i need to sort out meals instead of working out calories in head, really annoying, however i think im doing OK but still getting enough protein, which is the main thing?
Lastly id like to ask, what is creatine? I saw it in a catalog next to whey protein powder and mass build, ive heard that if you take it it makes you stronger? For example you can lift more weight, therefore gain quicker, if this is true however seems a bit like cheating?
Thanks for the time please get back to me on those questions, hope things are going well.
Had the protein shake, now going to go bed and have an early night, hopefully be alright for chest and triceps workout tomorow, however it's hard to workout when the weather is roasting!
I'm back, didn't even know i was gone
Eated as best as i could, had wheatabix, semi skimmed milk, wholemeal rolls, chick peas, chicken, prawns, cottage cheese, tuna, lettuce, mainly GOOD stuff.
Probably have a protein shake in a while to get more protein as it's late now, and just been on the bike to burn some calories incase im going over. Just went on bike for 20mins, was tired and wasn't going to bother, but im determined to do this, was on the beach and saw alot of "average" bodys, and made me want to be in a way better, even more. I just have a few questions to ask though.
Firstly, i had like yesterday, a carton of orange juice from concentrate (so basically just orange juice no added sugar), it was only 80 calories, but 20% sugar, now im not too sure with sugar, in opinion it was fine to have as long as it wasn't added, so natural, like this? But how much sugar should i really be having, same with fat really, i normally eat enough protein, but could probably do with more carbs to be honest.
So yeah mainly asking, about sugars and is it ok to have them as long as there natural like fruits.
Secondly about nutrition and working out, i was trying to work out in head how many calories i have had (keeping to 2535) but it's hard to do and was really annoying at times remembering and actually annoying me, i hope it doesn't make me worry so much and cause me problems (hair loss) haha. But yeah you have to be like this i guess if you want to look good, mainly asking here is, like for example where i just got in, late evening, did a decent amount of walking so probably could of gave the cardio a miss - where im trying to gain MUSCLE mass, but not actually fat (don't want to increase fat) im thinking the best way to go about this, in terms of cardio, workout routine at the moment is monday - chest triceps, however im lacking with the triceps and dunno if i should change things up, tuesday - back and biceps, wednesday rest or cardio, thursday - shoulders and legs, but not sure if i should be doing shoulders and maybe add military press with things like chest workout? Friday rest or cardio, saturday - full body (well try to if im not too injured lol) and sunday rest or cardio.
Im not sure if i should be doing cardio if im trying to gain muscle mass but of course i need to stay fit, but not lose any more weight. Plus i need to sort out meals instead of working out calories in head, really annoying, however i think im doing OK but still getting enough protein, which is the main thing?
Lastly id like to ask, what is creatine? I saw it in a catalog next to whey protein powder and mass build, ive heard that if you take it it makes you stronger? For example you can lift more weight, therefore gain quicker, if this is true however seems a bit like cheating?
Thanks for the time please get back to me on those questions, hope things are going well.
Had the protein shake, now going to go bed and have an early night, hopefully be alright for chest and triceps workout tomorow, however it's hard to workout when the weather is roasting!
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I'm sorry, but who exactly are you again?MartinBoy wrote: I'm back, didn't even know i was gone
Re: Fat Around Button Area?
I'm the annoying guy who's got a thread with 81 pages of struggles and helpBoss Man wrote:I'm sorry, but who exactly are you again?MartinBoy wrote: I'm back, didn't even know i was gone
Day 311
Breakfast, protein shake with semi skimmed milk, wheatabix x3 with semi skimmed milk.
Break and lunch - 2 wholemeal rolls, bit of cottage cheese and thick ham slices.
250ml carton of semi skimmed milk.
So need about another 1200 calories and 80g protein.
Going to do workout soon - chest and triceps, it is BAKING, about 30 degress celcus im going to be sweating but, not an exscuse to not do it, room just happens to be the loft room - great.
Did a workout, didn't go too well in opinion - weather was really making me want it to just end so soon, i hate sweating as it is, and just changing the weights was making me sweat, there's no air or air conditioning nothing, just pure utter horrible heat, constant headaches, roll on the winter.
Anyway:
Chest
54KG barbell bench press 3 sets, reps 8, 8, 6.
16kg dumbbells x2 Dumbbell flys Again elbow isn't 100% non bent otherwise i wouldn't be able to do anywhere near the weight - weak again, but did 8 reps and 3 sets.
This is sort of chest and triceps - i guess?
Close grip push ups2 sets reps 10, next was to failure - about 8. Wrists were giving in, so need to get some push up stands.
Chair dipsDidn't go too well either, 3 sets about reps 5 or 4-6.
Dumbbell pull back, 10kg, reps 8 each arm 2 sets - these don't seem to be doing nothing, or probably again me doing them wrong.
Protein shake after, but whats the use, it's not like im going to be gaining muscle or mass after workouts like that.
This is where i really need some help and advise from you guys, i know it's down to me and i really am determined, weather like today does not help at all but i really want to gain, and look great and not just above average (besides nipple size) The reason im desperate for some advise and direction is because im worried il end up giving this up after workouts like today, and i don't want to be having to do that, but i feel im wasting time in what i want to achieve.
Don't mean to be rude either but when you get the time can you answer the questions i posted yesterday aswell? Many thanks and i hope tomorow does get better.
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Re: Fat Around Button Area?
Firstly, i had like yesterday, a carton of orange juice from concentrate (so basically just orange juice no added sugar), it was only 80 calories, but 20% sugar, now im not too sure with sugar, in opinion it was fine to have as long as it wasn't added, so natural, like this? But how much sugar should i really be having, same with fat really, i normally eat enough protein, but could probably do with more carbs to be honest.
So yeah mainly asking, about sugars and is it ok to have them as long as there natural like fruits.
Sugar from fruits is fine in moderation. Fruit is good for you and is a great source of vitamins and fiber. I would stick to one or two pieces of fruit per day and include veggies in the rest of your meals.
Secondly about nutrition and working out, i was trying to work out in head how many calories i have had (keeping to 2535) but it's hard to do and was really annoying at times remembering and actually annoying me, i hope it doesn't make me worry so much and cause me problems (hair loss) haha.
This is why I/we suggest you actually track and record your calories Martin. I'm not sure how many times now I've suggested that you keep a food journal so that you know how many calories/protein/carbs youre taking in. This would also require you to measure your foods and do a little bit of research when it comes to foods that you don't know the nutrition info on. It all comes down to how badly you want to make progress. I've been keeping a food journal for the past year now and it helps me immensly.
But yeah you have to be like this i guess if you want to look good, mainly asking here is, like for example where i just got in, late evening, did a decent amount of walking so probably could of gave the cardio a miss - where im trying to gain MUSCLE mass, but not actually fat (don't want to increase fat) im thinking the best way to go about this, in terms of cardio, workout routine at the moment is monday - chest triceps, however im lacking with the triceps and dunno if i should change things up, tuesday - back and biceps, wednesday rest or cardio, thursday - shoulders and legs, but not sure if i should be doing shoulders and maybe add military press with things like chest workout? Friday rest or cardio, saturday - full body (well try to if im not too injured lol) and sunday rest or cardio.
I'm a little confused about the above post but what if you kept it simple... Like 4 days of weights per week Monday: Upper body, Tuesday: Lower body, Wednesday: cardio Thursday: upper body Friday: lower body Saturday: cardio Sunday off. For your cardio days either choose between 45 minutes of longer slower cardio or 20 minutes of intervals.
Im not sure if i should be doing cardio if im trying to gain muscle mass but of course i need to stay fit, but not lose any more weight. Plus i need to sort out meals instead of working out calories in head, really annoying, however i think im doing OK but still getting enough protein, which is the main thing?
Sorting out your meals... What if you shoot for 2500 calories a day in the form of 33p/33/c/33f. This means 208 grams of protein, 208 grams of carbs, and 93 grams of fat. Its up to you to meet these requirements every day and actually track and record what you're eating to ensure that you're meeting them.
Lastly id like to ask, what is creatine? I saw it in a catalog next to whey protein powder and mass build, ive heard that if you take it it makes you stronger? For example you can lift more weight, therefore gain quicker, if this is true however seems a bit like cheating?
Creatine is a supplement that is supposed to help you build mass. It is a good supplement (in opinion) but would be a waste of money for somebody to take if their diet isn't on track 100% in opinion. If I were you I would start by tracking your diet more closely and see what happens with that. Tracking calories/macros doesn't cost you any extra money while buying supplements does. In opinion theres no point in taking supplements if youre diet isn't on track 100%.
So yeah mainly asking, about sugars and is it ok to have them as long as there natural like fruits.
Sugar from fruits is fine in moderation. Fruit is good for you and is a great source of vitamins and fiber. I would stick to one or two pieces of fruit per day and include veggies in the rest of your meals.
Secondly about nutrition and working out, i was trying to work out in head how many calories i have had (keeping to 2535) but it's hard to do and was really annoying at times remembering and actually annoying me, i hope it doesn't make me worry so much and cause me problems (hair loss) haha.
This is why I/we suggest you actually track and record your calories Martin. I'm not sure how many times now I've suggested that you keep a food journal so that you know how many calories/protein/carbs youre taking in. This would also require you to measure your foods and do a little bit of research when it comes to foods that you don't know the nutrition info on. It all comes down to how badly you want to make progress. I've been keeping a food journal for the past year now and it helps me immensly.
But yeah you have to be like this i guess if you want to look good, mainly asking here is, like for example where i just got in, late evening, did a decent amount of walking so probably could of gave the cardio a miss - where im trying to gain MUSCLE mass, but not actually fat (don't want to increase fat) im thinking the best way to go about this, in terms of cardio, workout routine at the moment is monday - chest triceps, however im lacking with the triceps and dunno if i should change things up, tuesday - back and biceps, wednesday rest or cardio, thursday - shoulders and legs, but not sure if i should be doing shoulders and maybe add military press with things like chest workout? Friday rest or cardio, saturday - full body (well try to if im not too injured lol) and sunday rest or cardio.
I'm a little confused about the above post but what if you kept it simple... Like 4 days of weights per week Monday: Upper body, Tuesday: Lower body, Wednesday: cardio Thursday: upper body Friday: lower body Saturday: cardio Sunday off. For your cardio days either choose between 45 minutes of longer slower cardio or 20 minutes of intervals.
Im not sure if i should be doing cardio if im trying to gain muscle mass but of course i need to stay fit, but not lose any more weight. Plus i need to sort out meals instead of working out calories in head, really annoying, however i think im doing OK but still getting enough protein, which is the main thing?
Sorting out your meals... What if you shoot for 2500 calories a day in the form of 33p/33/c/33f. This means 208 grams of protein, 208 grams of carbs, and 93 grams of fat. Its up to you to meet these requirements every day and actually track and record what you're eating to ensure that you're meeting them.
Lastly id like to ask, what is creatine? I saw it in a catalog next to whey protein powder and mass build, ive heard that if you take it it makes you stronger? For example you can lift more weight, therefore gain quicker, if this is true however seems a bit like cheating?
Creatine is a supplement that is supposed to help you build mass. It is a good supplement (in opinion) but would be a waste of money for somebody to take if their diet isn't on track 100% in opinion. If I were you I would start by tracking your diet more closely and see what happens with that. Tracking calories/macros doesn't cost you any extra money while buying supplements does. In opinion theres no point in taking supplements if youre diet isn't on track 100%.
Re: Fat Around Button Area?
Much appreciated for the feedback Cassie, however, with 2 lowerbody workouts, where i mainly do squats and lunges for leg exercises as lunges are a full leg workout? And sometimes deadlifts, i think id get bored doing others? I mean is working out legs once a week good?
And if only 2 upper body sessions, then id have to fit in biceps, triceps, chest, back, shoulders/delts, more muscles? Well seems it.
As for keeping track i do try best, espically when listing them here, working out in head does get annoying, so posting here does help support it, main thing is im getting enough protein, but of course i want to gain and don't feel i have been lately. I'l try harder to list calories.
208g of protein seems alot? Aswell as carbs does, but maybe i should eat more carbs, but saying that will have to watch the calories more closely and stop picking at little things like i do (pieces of ceral), 93g fat seems quite alot tbh, but eating things like beef mince could be an option? However again, alot of calories in them.
It is hard but iltry best.
Had a can of chick peas.
And if only 2 upper body sessions, then id have to fit in biceps, triceps, chest, back, shoulders/delts, more muscles? Well seems it.
As for keeping track i do try best, espically when listing them here, working out in head does get annoying, so posting here does help support it, main thing is im getting enough protein, but of course i want to gain and don't feel i have been lately. I'l try harder to list calories.
208g of protein seems alot? Aswell as carbs does, but maybe i should eat more carbs, but saying that will have to watch the calories more closely and stop picking at little things like i do (pieces of ceral), 93g fat seems quite alot tbh, but eating things like beef mince could be an option? However again, alot of calories in them.
It is hard but iltry best.
Had a can of chick peas.
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Re: Fat Around Button Area?
The upper body/lower body workouts would be mostly compound exercises. You really don't need to do too many individual bicep and tricep exercises as they get worked pretty well with the basic compound back and chest movements. You could also do something like: Monday: chest and biceps, Tuesday: legs and shoulders, Wednesday: back and triceps Thursday: cardio Friday: full body Saturday: cardio or off Sunday: off or cardio (depending on what you do Saturday).
You said you were trying to hit 2500 calories. If you're getting that many calories at 33/33/33 the macros would come out to 208 protein, 208 c and 93 fat. You could do 2000 calories and do 33/33/33 to get 167 p, 167 c and 74 f if you're not comfortable with the macros at 2500. I was just giving you the breakdown for the 2500 that you said you were trying to hit.
The problem with posting your calories here is that I and everybody else on the forum for that matter don't have time to go through and add up your calories and macros for the day. Plus, when you put things like "had a can of chick peas" that honestly doesn't mean much to me. I don't know how many calories, carbs, protein and fat are in that can of chick peas. Yes, I have a general idea but i have no clue about exact figures. Same goes with things like
"Breakfast, protein shake with semi skimmed milk, wheatabix x3 with semi skimmed milk.
Break and lunch - 2 wholemeal rolls, bit of cottage cheese and thick ham slices.
250ml carton of semi skimmed milk."
I don't know how much protein you had in your shake, how much skim milk you used, what the macros are in wholemeal rolls, how much a "bit" of cottage cheese is and how much protein is in "thick ham slices". Martin if you want this you have to actually figure out how much youre eating everyday. Simply posting it here and expecting others to know exactly how many calories/carbs/protein/fat isn't a realistic expection. You say your desperate for advice but you've been given advice (such as writing down and measuring foods so you know how many calories/protein/carbs/fats you're eating) but you don't actually take the advice. I apologize if I sound harsh, i'm not meaning too... I just want to help you meet your goals.
You said you were trying to hit 2500 calories. If you're getting that many calories at 33/33/33 the macros would come out to 208 protein, 208 c and 93 fat. You could do 2000 calories and do 33/33/33 to get 167 p, 167 c and 74 f if you're not comfortable with the macros at 2500. I was just giving you the breakdown for the 2500 that you said you were trying to hit.
The problem with posting your calories here is that I and everybody else on the forum for that matter don't have time to go through and add up your calories and macros for the day. Plus, when you put things like "had a can of chick peas" that honestly doesn't mean much to me. I don't know how many calories, carbs, protein and fat are in that can of chick peas. Yes, I have a general idea but i have no clue about exact figures. Same goes with things like
"Breakfast, protein shake with semi skimmed milk, wheatabix x3 with semi skimmed milk.
Break and lunch - 2 wholemeal rolls, bit of cottage cheese and thick ham slices.
250ml carton of semi skimmed milk."
I don't know how much protein you had in your shake, how much skim milk you used, what the macros are in wholemeal rolls, how much a "bit" of cottage cheese is and how much protein is in "thick ham slices". Martin if you want this you have to actually figure out how much youre eating everyday. Simply posting it here and expecting others to know exactly how many calories/carbs/protein/fat isn't a realistic expection. You say your desperate for advice but you've been given advice (such as writing down and measuring foods so you know how many calories/protein/carbs/fats you're eating) but you don't actually take the advice. I apologize if I sound harsh, i'm not meaning too... I just want to help you meet your goals.
Re: Fat Around Button Area?
It's fine Cassie, so may do shoulders and legs tomorow instead of back and biceps and instead do back and biceps on the wednesday?
I know about saying can of chick peas doesn't help, i don't expect any of you to work it out for me, it's something i have to do myself, posting it here reminds me what ive had so i can work it out.
What do you mean macro 33/33/33? I'm not too sure about this, TDEE like i said before was 2500 calories, so i think id need these to bulk up but not get fat. Weigh just over 11st, so basically 155lbs.
It's hard with things like can of chick peas, 100g = 76 cal, 5g protein, 13g carb, and the can is 400g, 240g net weight, so im assuming once drained, but it's still going to be off slightly.
Im really trying best and am desperate to make gains, so may do legs and shoulders tomorow, whereas i was going to do back and biceps.
Only thing about cardio is im worried about burning off too much, but i don't think id lose weight.
That's true about biceps and triceps normally getting worked, but i don't think im going to see any major gains unless i do them seperately?
Again thanks for your time any advise is welcome, you don't sound harsh at all don't worry
I know about saying can of chick peas doesn't help, i don't expect any of you to work it out for me, it's something i have to do myself, posting it here reminds me what ive had so i can work it out.
What do you mean macro 33/33/33? I'm not too sure about this, TDEE like i said before was 2500 calories, so i think id need these to bulk up but not get fat. Weigh just over 11st, so basically 155lbs.
It's hard with things like can of chick peas, 100g = 76 cal, 5g protein, 13g carb, and the can is 400g, 240g net weight, so im assuming once drained, but it's still going to be off slightly.
Im really trying best and am desperate to make gains, so may do legs and shoulders tomorow, whereas i was going to do back and biceps.
Only thing about cardio is im worried about burning off too much, but i don't think id lose weight.
That's true about biceps and triceps normally getting worked, but i don't think im going to see any major gains unless i do them seperately?
Again thanks for your time any advise is welcome, you don't sound harsh at all don't worry