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Day 226

Breakfast, protein shake and bowl of corn flakes.

Can of tuna.

Was following this workout plan http://www.scoobysworkshop.com/schedintermediate.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; but was doing mondays exercises and stopped at french press.

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Im seriously considering stopping all this, i have spent alot of money on weights, protein shakes, all in aid to benefit me as ive always been self concious about taking top off. Mainly due to the lupo suction i had in the past. I missed the last 2 years p.e in school due to it and im just unfit. Ive tried so hard since last june to benefit myself and for what, a few minor changes, the fat is still there, shoulder blades stick out, no big changes which i wanted. This aint fucking fair ive tried so hard, times where ive been peckish and family are sitting downstairs eating ice cream and stuff ive wanted and i couldn't have, as it would affect me, but affect me? It's not like im exactly big, im weak, im pathetic. I'm not feeling sorry for myself, and i don't want it to seem like im throwing all this at you guys, but i just need to get this off chest before i do something i seriously regret. No income, no job, no changes, something that really really frustrated me, was todays workout, dumbbell flys, i couldn't lift the weight i normally did? Had to lower it, couldn't do it for french press as im weak, so had to lower it even more and even then the form im doing is probably pretty shit as i manage to up the simpliest of things why am i so fucking useless even college course im doing shit, i may aswell not be alive ffs ive had it i cant take anymore of this trying to think of the best when there clearly isn't i have nothing to look forward to, 18th next month whats the point, family are more excited than i am. Being young is the best years of your life, well if it is i dread to think what futures going to be like.

I feel like punching myself til i can barely stand i HATE myself what a complete failure.

I don't know what this seems like reading this from another view as your not me, but honistly, im not feeling sorry for myself or wanting attention, i seriously couldn't care less for attention, if i wanted that i would run round the street shouting, i have nothing to lose.

If this is the end of the road which for sake i hope isnt as the past 8 months would of been a waste, but then again with the changes ive made they might aswell be, then i would like to say a massive thanks to Cassie for being there every day to give me advice and put me in the right direction i cant thank you enough, and to the rest of you guys that have been there tohelp me and give me advice thanks alot for your help, im just very dissapointed myself that it didn't do anything for me, i don't no where ive gone wrong but im just a miserable failure, i would of thought in 8 months i would be fairly big, oh well,
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Martin,

I originially read your post about 4 hours ago and still don't know what to tell you. I'm pretty much speechless. I wish there was more that I could do to help you, I wish I could help you feel better about yourself, I wish I could help you find a job, I wish I could show you how important you are to the world.

Martin what can I do to help you? I know you're struggling. I would hate to see you give up now. If you give up then all your hard work will be for nothing. You can do this! You have become a better person with the efforts you've made in the past year. You've gotten stronger, you've learned about dedication and hard work, you've taught me patience. LOL!

*hugs friend* I'm hear if theres anything I can do.

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Sick of being myself and just being here, feeling fat, and im not just saying this but everything i seem to do, i manage to it up, driving lessons, college course im also shit at, even this "working out" im shit at. I might aswell be dead if i cant do a fucking thing right, i seriously hate myself and don't know where to go from here, i tried to tell mother about it last night, but i can never explain how i feel, i feel so terrible inside, seriously want things to change, because if they don't im not going to bother being here anymore, i just really cannot stand it.
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I'll tell you something. I took 3 years to learn how to drive and three tests. I very nearly caved in and gave up, the day I was allowed to a do a three point turn on own, and just reversed back to the start position, then kept making mistakes all the way home.

After about 18 months, I just had seriously had enough, I felt like crap as if I was learning a skill, I couldn't master and if the instructor hadn't persuaded me to to give it a second shot, I'd have walked. Ironically I don't drive now because it's cheaper to use buses and I got hacked off with driving and the cost and sometimes the issues of not having a thought to yourself, because you're too busy concentrating on a lot of stuff when you drive.

To me when I was learning to drive, I really wanted to do it, because I suddenly realised giving up was not good, after all the money that had been spent. I can legally drive but choose not to.

The point being, even when I was ready to jack it in, I decided not to. The only time I really jacked something in big time, was a stupid colege course, that was being phased out and was being poorly managed, messed up wih hconfusing grade systems, tests with duplicate and dubious questions on, and one patronising tutor who thought I should get some of stuff assesed, page by page and another who claimed I got a team mark only because of the other two. I felt like saying and without coursework, they'd have gotten nothing, because they would have not fulfilled all the basic criteria.

Plus it was wasting time that would have been better spent doing other courses instead.

Incidentally that college has been shut for a few years, due to large debts, but that's an unrelated thing really.

Frankly I could have let certain people patronise me, but frankly, I had a shove it type attitude to some people, that I kept to myself. I know own intelligence, but you can't teach people stuff that requires some of the foundations, when thery haven't learnt it.

Teach a 4 year old kid with a 140 IQ, Algebra, before he can count to 20 and see how well he does, when he can't even identify what a 1 a 2 or a 3 are.

You think you're crap at stuff, well who doesn't? People who have grand ideas about being someone, only to realise they can't kick a ball, can't play an instrument, can't sing, can't run fast and can't grasp internet languages, so they won't be a web developer anytime soon. That is not a coded description of myself by the way, those are just examples.

You are capable of something. Unless you were in a wheelchair with Brain damage, or were unfortunate to have some genetic, or inflicted serious physical or mental limitations, there's no reason why you should be useless.

Try thinking about all the stuff you have done. Why is it, that people who do stuff like you do, just look at themselves and think they've acheived not much physically?

Do you ever think, that maybe you have actually increased bone density? Lowered blood pressure? Lowered Cholesterol. Cut risk of killer diseases? Do you never think all the hard work might be doing more than just the stuff you can see?

It is and you are.

Until you start seeing the bigger picture, you will always have a bad case of tunnel vision. You're worth more than this, and you're better than this. I've never been where you live, but I bet it's better than a lot of places in Africa or South America. You can have oportunities to be someone. You haven't missed the boat at 17. You're not someone who has to settle for a same old, same old kind of life, because you're in a rut at 50.

Stop being such a hater and start ot see yourself in a better light. If you create dark clouds and start living under them, you'll never see the sunshine again. The thoughts you're having about some kind of end are just that. Stop letting them consume you. Don't be a martyr to bad stuff man, you're better than that.

Deep down you know full well, that saying you feel like doing this or that, is just words, because deep down you know you would never attempt any such things. It's like people saying why do some countries have nukes? To be able to fight back against the other countries with nukes, when in fact some believe it's so nobody makes that first move. Fear of what would happen using just one, stops any of them actually firing a nuke.

Could you really nuke yourself? Could you really do the deed or even consider it? Could you really look at a bottle of pills and wolf then down? Could you hold a knife and see salvation in a slashed wrist or two? Could you? Are you really that kind of guy?

I think you're not and I think you know you're not either, because somewhere, somewhere inside you have a subconscious that stores that little nugget of information that reminds you you're not that 50 something, stuck in rut, you're someone that can't have any chance or any opportunity you want, but can have more opportunities than you're willing to admit to yourself.

So you have'nt got a job. Big deal, you're 18, just get out there and take some part-time work. Someone would employ you if you made them believe it, or would you just walk into a room and give someone the impression, you've come before the firing squad, or you're some baby who just cacked himself and needs someone to change his pants.

Are you really that guy who thinks of himself that way? WELL?

I see the words, but I don't see any clearly intent or strength behind them. It's like you're trying to put yourself down, because you feel aiming low can't lead to dissapointment.

You deserve better, but until you see it, you'll never get close. You need to keep plugging away and stop trying to kick yourself down all the time. If you want a few things in life, go and find ways to get them. When you're 18 you can sign on, so you'll be able to get some money and support and added help, which might help, but stop writing yourself off man, because it's dumb and you're being dumb, when you don't need to be.

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Thanks guys i read all of the posts, and it does help, i try and blank it out on most days, but some days it just builds up and i really can't deal with things, but thanks alot for the time and advice it does put things in a different perspective.

Back with the workout and all, im also getting frustrated with nutrition, because i know doing the work is pointless if im eating shit. For example. Breakfast today i have a protein shake with semi skimmed milk, and a bowl of cornflakes with semi skimmed milk and a tiny spoon of sugar, don't see no problem with this.

Lunch had tuna sandwiches. This is alright but too many carbs/not enough protein.

And then i get home, hardly any high sources of protein to eat, unless i wanna cook boiled eggs, which ive gone right off, don't mind scrambled eggs but there got fat in them. Peanut butter - high in fat too, although it's healthy, its still fat.

So all i mainly have indoors right now for protein wise is tuna, and protein shakes, and living off of either of them is bound to make me ill.

Dinners being cooked, jacket potatoes, which are fine, but sausages. High in fat and sat fat, i don't want to be eating them, they may taste alright, but alright aint going to get me no where, no wonder i still have fat covering abs and no results that i want. Damn, i can handle paying for the protein powder, well i can't but i don't have a lot of choice, but then mum sometimes buys certain foods if i ask her to.

I wanna look good in the summer, go out with a t shirt on, feel good, being able to go swimming looking big, i really hope i can achieve that this summer, last summer was really dissapointing for me, can i do it?

But then again, i need to buy a pair of gloves to workout, so what £5, i can afford that. But that's not the problem. It's been raining raining and raining constantly here, and in the shed it's even started to get damp on the floor, but let alone there's not enough room, i can bench press in there, but still the room is limited and you don't feel as free for space. So i can't exactly workout in the garden in the rain and when it's wet. Which limits me to doing it in the shed where the space is kinda cramped, and it's cold in there, but i can handle the cold.

Mannnn, if i just had alot of space to workout and proper food, i could accomplish so much i feel.
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Hi Martin, :mrgreen:

I can understand how the diet part would get frustrating after a while. Its so hard when you want to eat healthy but simple don't have access to the proper foods. Just do the best you can with what you have. The fat in eggs isn't terrible and they are a good source of protein. You could always do something like 2 whole eggs with 2-3 whites. Remember you do need fat in your diet. If your mom will sometimes buy certain foods if you ask her to maybe you could ask her to buy some frozen chicken breasts for you? When they are frozen you can just throw them in the freezer and pull them out as you want to cook them (they last longer this way). Might be a good change of pace for you.

I do believe you can reach your goals Martin. I've always believed in you and I will always believe that you have the ability to reach your goals.

Oh.. and by the way... I failed drivers test 4 times. I had to wait 48 days between each test. 4 times!!! :) I also HATED being a teenager. Hated every single moment of it. classmates were cruel and I didn't fit in. The day that I graduated high school dad informed me that he couldn't believe I'd actually made it through. He was certain that I was going to drop out. To be honest I kind of sucked at college too. I actually dropped out for about 6 months then decided that I needed to get degree. It took 7 years to get degree! Youre going through a tough time in your life right now Martin. I know because i was there and went through alot of the same things that youre going through. I promise you though, IT WILL GET BETTER! Now that I'm older I've begun to see things in a different light. I'm thankful now that I had to endure teenage years because now I can look back and know that those years made be a better person. You'll get through this Martin and you'll be a better person because of it. Life sucks sometimes but its also pretty darn fantastic at times also. :)

Chin up friend!

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Thanks :D

Just had dinner, peas, jacket potato, 5 sausages, or 4 and a half. I'm really annoyed i ate them but there isn't nothing else to eat. 2 of the sausages were like 255 cals, and 34%of sat fat.

This really annoys me, i didn't enjoy eating them but i must eat, otherwise il starve. I should of thought of doing scrambled eggs at the time, but i completely forgot about them. Im now going to do some brisk cycling on the exercise bike, pointless me doing weights as it's soaking wet and ive eaten no where near enough protein. So going to do 20-30mins cycling. Hopefully won't get fat due to the sausages if i go on the bike. And maybe if i get hungry later can have some scrambvled egg.
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Okay I by all means is not a dietitian, know much of anything.......but why don't you do this?

Eat a big bowl of Salad, put a lot of lettuce, or whatever type of veggie you like the most, and instead of eating 1-4 pieces of hotdogs...take one and chop it and eat it with the salad...? doesn't sound too bad? In this case you'll eat less fat, less cals, and eat veggies! You could even chop some egg whites there...and u got urself a decent high protein, veggies, not so much fat in that meal esp at night.

I noticed your family cooks hotdogs a lot at night...so if u replace a few things like a couple of hotdogs with boiled egg whites......you'll be literally eating a healthy meal.

I always buy ready turkey slices...these help me a lot, too. You could eat those and most of the time they're affordable. I usually buy a qurater of smocked turkey slices for about.....$5 if I convert it from our currency. Which is not bad at all. Try to ask ur mom to buy quarter of turkey on weekly basis, and instead of u eating hotdogs for dinner u could eat turkey sandwichs!
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Oh believe me skully i would eat that if i could, just none of them foods are here, il ask mum though when she goes shopping and just say don't worry about dinners as long as i have these types of foods, then il be ok.

Just did 30mins cardio, on the stationary bike, according to that i burned off 608 cals, and rode 13.4miles, how accurate is this, it's just 608 cals in just 30mins seems a bit easy. I feel like i could go some more, like im not tired, and i wasn't garsping for breath which is good because it's not nice to be feeling like that, of course it isn't easy, as i am hot and sweating, if it was easy surely i wouldn't be?

But yeah is this accurate, was keeping the speed above 24 i guess its kmh? if it was mph then the bike wouldn't work lol.

As much as im sooo determined and want this, it's no use me going back on the bike for another 10-20mins, because chances are il be really tired tomorow, and im just going to be very hungry.

Im really fed up of looking down at the folded over fat, im going to do whatever it takes. Often where the protein powder is near pc i find myself having tiny scoops now and then, i don't want to be doing this either as it cant be healthy eating just powder, and it makes the protein powder run out alot quicker.
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The calories burned figure is unfortunately not very accurate. I would guess you probably burned somewhere between 300-400 calories.

I definitely think its a good idea to ask your mom if she'll pick you up some other forms of protein for you. Maybe some chicken, fish (tilapia and cod are both good and are fairly affordable), lean beef.. then you can just fish yourself your own form of protein for dinner and not have to worry about all the sausages your family eats. Do they realize how unhealthy those things are? With as often as your family eats them I would be concerned about your parents and siblings health! Those things are very unhealthy and should definitely not be eaten on a regular basis.

You're doing great Martin. Keep it up. :)
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Yes i will ask her to pick me up those sort of things, and i do try to explain this, but not much notice gets taken. :roll:
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MartinBoy wrote:Yes i will ask her to pick me up those sort of things, and i do try to explain this, but not much notice gets taken. :roll:
Keep us posted on how that works out for ya. :)
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Day 228

Breakfast, protein shake with water, bowl of wheatabix with semi skimmed milk.

Break bought a chicken sandwich, 240 cals, 19.4g protein.

Lunch got a ham sandwich with mustard maynoese. About 280 cals, 15.5g protein and 9.8g fat.

Need to get something to eat soon, im so annoyed, useless weather it is raining again, i need to do a workout as i just keep feeling this load of fat at the bottom of stomach, but all i have is a damp, cold and small spaced area.

:cry:

Some nuts, and slice of bread with peanut butter.

Dinner, oven baked chips, are these bad? Peas, had a small bit of homemade beef mince pie, but didn't like it so stopped eating it. Might cook 3 scrambled eggs? And perhaps do a bit of a workout? Il be inside so have to make do with the space i have.
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Day 229

Breakfast protein shake and a bowl of wheatabix both with semi skimmed milk.

Some peanuts

Lunch, 2 slices bread with peanut butter, and a can of tuna.

Workout did this plan:

Wed


Back: 3 sets of overhand pullups (pull-ups), as many reps as you can do with 60s rest between sets. 3 sets of dumbbell rows, 8-12 reps per set with 60s rest between sets.

Biceps: 3 sets of dumbbell curls, 8-12 reps per set with 60s rest between sets. 3 sets of underhand grip pullups (pull-ups), as many reps as you can do with 60s rest between sets. 3 sets of barbell curls, 8-12 reps per set with 60s rest between sets.

Abs: 4 sets of crunches, as many as you can do with 60s rest between sets

Cardio: 20 min - jog, brisk walk or bike

Time Required - 60 minutes (40min weights, 20min cardio)

Did the 20mins steady cycling as cardio, this workout was tougher than i thought, seeing as it's only a few exercises, but now i feel tired after doing it. I noticed while doing the dumbbell curls that if i wanted to do an exercise after like shoulder press i couldn't, maybe to do with the blood flow during workout to grow muscles or something im not to sure how it works, but if people that have alot of muscle, their arms stay like that permantly, thats pretty scary.

But yeah did that routine from here: http://www.scoobysworkshop.com/schedintermediate.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good? Going to have some egg whites, although i don't really like them, haven't got much else of a choice.
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MartinBoy wrote:Day 229

Breakfast protein shake and a bowl of wheatabix both with semi skimmed milk.

Some peanuts

Lunch, 2 slices bread with peanut butter, and a can of tuna.

Workout did this plan:

Wed


Back: 3 sets of overhand pullups (pull-ups), as many reps as you can do with 60s rest between sets. 3 sets of dumbbell rows, 8-12 reps per set with 60s rest between sets.

Biceps: 3 sets of dumbbell curls, 8-12 reps per set with 60s rest between sets. 3 sets of underhand grip pullups (pull-ups), as many reps as you can do with 60s rest between sets. 3 sets of barbell curls, 8-12 reps per set with 60s rest between sets.

Abs: 4 sets of crunches, as many as you can do with 60s rest between sets

Cardio: 20 min - jog, brisk walk or bike

Time Required - 60 minutes (40min weights, 20min cardio)

Did the 20mins steady cycling as cardio, this workout was tougher than i thought, seeing as it's only a few exercises, but now i feel tired after doing it. I noticed while doing the dumbbell curls that if i wanted to do an exercise after like shoulder press i couldn't, maybe to do with the blood flow during workout to grow muscles or something im not to sure how it works, but if people that have alot of muscle, their arms stay like that permantly, thats pretty scary.

But yeah did that routine from here: http://www.scoobysworkshop.com/schedintermediate.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good? Going to have some egg whites, although i don't really like them, haven't got much else of a choice.
I would say you need to add leg workouts with these exercises. I only see one day of legs, but then again legs are the biggest muscle group in your body.You should probably start with a 3 sets of squats or dead lifts before your work you work your biceps. Compound exercises did sooooo much for me since I started weight training again with Cassie's routine. It helped me a lot. Sure I'm not big or anything...but I can feel muscles getting stronger and slightly bigger.

And its important to get one day rest in any routine.
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