Whats the theory behind how muscles grow?

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Re: Whats the theory behind how muscles grow?

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Found time to respond to this now.

To simplify.

1. Resistance training causes Microtears in the muscles. Supposedly the more you create the more likely you might get DOMS. N.B. DOMS does not necessarily equate to having a good workout. It also stretches something called a Fasica, a type of membrane surrounding the muscle. This is why muscle recovery after injuries is quicker, because the Fascia doesn't normally shrink, reducing resistance to the muscles when you resume training, compared to the first time round, thus promoting faster regrowth. This process may also be affected to some extent by subcutaneous Fat levels, and elasticity of skin, based on things like Water, Elastin, Collagen, Hyaluronic Acid and Ceramide levels.

2. You consume adequate daily nutrition from Protein and Carbs, and also Fats, (Monos affect Test and GH production, as I believe do Zinc and Vit E) and also sleep to promote GH releases, for approximately 2 hours during sleep. This permits muscle recovery and the healing processes needed to develop or maintain pre-workout muscle levels. Obviously Catabolism will, depending on the frequency and duration, interfere with this process to some degree.

3. The muscles then, if nutrition is adequate, can strengthen and grow back together. This process is mimicked in some way in Bones. You cause little microshears, (for want of a better term), which then get reformed potentially stronger, depending on the levels of Bone nutrients in the diet.
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Re: Whats the theory behind how muscles grow?

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Yeah I totaly agree with the post above. After working out your muscle cells are damaged, and are in need of repair. So the protein from the food we eat or protein shakes we take are broken down by our bodies into amino acids.

These are the basic building blocks of all proteins. Our body then uses these proteins to rebuild our muscles bigger and stronger.

Some notes I wanted to add was the fact that there are actually some amino acids only found in plant life, so make sure you eat your vegies.

But great post above.
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Re: Whats the theory behind how muscles grow?

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Don't agree with the above post about Amino Acids in Veggies.

Any Amino Acids in Legumes and Veggies, are to understanding, the same as Flesh. The difference being is such sources, (Soybeans being the exception), only contain about 80% of the Aminos found in Flesh, so thye are incomplete or complimentary Proteins.

Complimentary ones can be combined together, I.E. Beans on Toast, to get the full compliment of Aminos in one meal, but it shouldn't make any difference anyway, it only matters really that you get Aminos, particularly essential ones, in the necessary amounts in a 24 hour period.
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Re: Whats the theory behind how muscles grow?

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Boss Man wrote:Don't agree with the above post about Amino Acids in Veggies.

Any Amino Acids in Legumes and Veggies, are to understanding, the same as Flesh. The difference being is such sources, (Soybeans being the exception), only contain about 80% of the Aminos found in Flesh, so thye are incomplete or complimentary Proteins.

Complimentary ones can be combined together, I.E. Beans on Toast, to get the full compliment of Aminos in one meal, but it shouldn't make any difference anyway, it only matters really that you get Aminos, particularly essential ones, in the necessary amounts in a 24 hour period.
Jello is high in incomplete protein according to what I've been told. It becomes "complete" with the addition of some dairy products. Assuming that is true, what time proximity is required for this "completion" to be done? I mean you can't eat jello on Monday, and dairy on Tuesday and expect them to combine.
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I'm not saying these Amino Acids need to combine, it's about the body getting what it needs within a reasonable time frame, but not necessarily having to have all the components at the same time.

It is about giving the body what it can use with Amino Acids, but if the body can benefit from having some Amino Acids several hours after others that's all that matters.

If it was highly necessary to have all aminos together, Vegans would be right up the stuff, as they would be severely limited to Soy and Soy products, Quorn, Mushrooms and probably Peanuts too, because Rice, Beans, Peas and Lentils are all complimentary Proteins too, and Nuts are not adequate Protein carriers, unless you eat at least a cup, and that's around 700+ calories in many cases, which is a bit silly.
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