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Re: Fat Around Button Area?

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I'm not just saying this Cassie, but you have a nice body, i don't think you even need to see anymore results, honistly it's fine, im not sure with what your trying to do but bulky musclely women in opinion don't look right, you look fine at the moment however, just opinion. I did order some more protein powder just now, even though i don't want to spend the money on it, if it makes me look better, it's a sacrifice im willing to make, same one as before just in choclate flavour. However i read it says mix with water, could that be why it's lumpy? Surely you can use with milk, water would taste horrible.

Ok,day 80

College so was limited but made the best to get high amounts of protein and lowish calories.

Breakfast - 3 wheatabix with milk, and last scoop of protein powder with milk. Possibly around 600 calories or even less, i always work out max so anything less is a bonus, probably less because of the semi skimmed milk :lol:

Around 10 30am bought a packet of roast chicken bites, pieces of roast chicken with salt and all on, around 19g protein i think, 125 calories the bag, maybe highish in fat and salt, but still lowish in calories with a fair amount of protein.

Lunch - bought a chicken tikka sandwich, again decent amount of protein not sure how much can't remember and 264 calories.

Bought a muller vanilla yougurt, with a really small amount of choclate and white choclate balls, around 200 calories i think, and 6.2g protein or so.

Also had bottle of diet pepsi max.

Got home, had a yougurt around 95 calories. And a slice of bread with toast.

Dinner - chicken kiev with mash and peas.

Did some weights - went to do bench press was out there for 30mins but that wasn't the total time, as i needed alot of breaks as it's heavier weight (27.5kg), anyway, i did some sets of this then just a couple of lifts with dumbell weights all on a single dumbell, (14kg), is this a good idea, because i mean, although i can do more variety's with 2 dumbells, the weight is heavier when using bench press, and if i did perhaps less dumbell light lifts and more bench press it would benefit?
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Well thank you for the compliment Martin. I'm actually training for a show where I have to get up on stage and pose in a swim suit so am going for the muscley look.... and in order to be competitive in the show I actually need to cut a bit more fat to make abs show through. If i wasn't training for this show... I would be perfectly happy with body... just don't feel quite ready for the stage yet. As for muscles... I actually LOVE the muscley look in women and wish mine were bigger! :) However... thats beside the point... the point i was trying to make is that progress is slow and takes a long time if you're going about it the right way. And, I honestly think that you've probably made more progress than you realize... however you haven't taken any measurements or progress pictures so you have nothing to compare your progress.

I'm SO glad you purchased that protein powder! Great job!

Meals look good! Only suggestion would be to add protein to the meal when you got home.

So is this your first year in college?
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It is 2nd year, doing electrical installation :roll: Still not to sure with what i want to do, but il see how it goes, anyway enough of lifestory :lol:

I was actually going to say i will take some pictures of body to show you how it looks and see some pictures before, i am quite happy with the changes and will stick at it, thank you again for all your time and dedication, and goodluck with your competition, i have also updated the post above :D
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Martin, I am very proud of you !!! For learnin and sticking to it.... :D
Most importantly... you are seeing results and you're happy with it!
KEEP IT UP & GOOD LUCK WITH SCHOOL...

Nokie 8)
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I'm confused about your question with the lifts... If you can lift heavier with the one dumbell then i would do that.

Electrical installation huh? Here in America thats a very good occupation to go into... pays really well.

Oh yes I definitely think you should post some progress pics!

Oh.. as for protein.. forgot to answer this before, yes you can mix it with water or milk. I actually mix mine with coffee sometimes (have to make sure the coffee isn't too hot though). It does taste better when mixed with milk, however i mix mine with water.

You're VERY welcome for the time. Its been a pleasure helping you. And thank you for wishing me good luck. I'm going to need it! :)
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Thanks for your responces. And Cassie, the lifts, i have a 14kg dumbell set, usually i balance it out, so on 1 dumbell i put 5kg in weight of plates and the pole and things to hold them must add up to 7kg. However i find these easy to lift. So what i sometimes do is put all the weight on 1 dumbell (14kg) and do the lifts i can, for example dumbell rows, there isn't much i can do with one dumbell that i know of, what i was getting at is, should i perhaps use the bench press more and less of the 2 dumbells weights (even though i can do more excercises with these) for example bench press, is a bench press but i was liftin it forwards with forearms out, but can only do about 5-10 reps with the 27kg+ weight.

Anyway

Day 81

Breakfast 3 wheatabix with milk

College got hungry break time, however bought a portion of chips :|

Lunch - paste sandwiches, which i mentioned before about the chicken paste, on bread.

Got home, grapes, banana.

Cheese string 69 calories. 5.9g protein 5g fat.

Dinner - greens peas, onions, mash and mince meat.
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Ohhh I understand what you're saying now. There are quite a few exercises that you can do with only one dumbell or you could load up the barbell that came with your bench press. Check these out:

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Meals: Need protein with meal one. Need protein with meal two. Lunch looks ok... could have some veggies there. Need protein with meal 4. Not a good protein day at all. :cry: Honestly (sorry if this is harsh) if you're not going to fuel your body properly I don't think i would even bother with the weight training as its kind of a waste of time (in opinion).
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Thanks for them excercises Cassie i will check them out, also i noticed for the bench press/weights excercise he was using just the pole, no weight for example if i try to do a curl with 27kg+ weight forearms wont be able to handle it.

Updated post above, I know i possibly haven't had the greatest day in terms of protein, but i really do try best with what im limited, was hard today as i was at college, caferteria absoultley packed full and what have you. I just really hope i can see major results soon.

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Just do what you can... if just lifting the bar alone is enough weight then don't add any, however if the bar alone is too light then throw some extra weight on there.

As for seeing "major" results sometime soon.. Martin if you want to see major results you really are going to have to try harder with the diet. Following a clean diet is difficult and does take time, money, and planning to ensure that you always have clean food available to you. For breakfast, you could have cooked up a few eggs to ensure that you were starting the day on the right foot. For snack, you could take some low fat cheese, jerky, or a tuna sandwhich to eat between breakfast and lunch. For the meal right after you got home, you could have cooked a couple of eggs, or grilled up some kind of meat as a quick snack then had that with the fruit. Nobody is going to do this for you, if you honestly want it bad enough you're going to have to find a way to eat properly or you simply will not make any "major results" anytime. I am gone from house from 5 am to 6 or 7pm every night during the week and I have to pack a lunch on these days otherwise there is just no way I would be able to achieve goals. There are mornings when i'm awake at 4:00am preparing food to ensure that i have enough protein to get through the day. It sucks and its hard sometimes but again, it is necessary if you want to meet your goals. You're doing a great job Martin, however I feel like i would be doing you an injustice if I lied and told you that you're going to see major results if you keep doing what youre doing.

Just thoughts...

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No, that's fine Cassie, i prefer honistey to know if im doing wrong or not. Next time mum or dad goes shopping il ask them to get foods like tuna, low fat cheese, jerky?. So, protein foods which are easy enough to get, eggs - usually always have these. Milk, semi skimmed - always have. Tuna - have most of the time. Ordered more protein powder so that would do me for a while. We usually have cheese but it's normal, so not low fat, i will ask them to try the low fat cheese. It's like, it's been like this for a while but ever since i lost weight, i always drink diet coke, never coca cola, coca cola is like 130 calories and 32% sugar which is a hell of alot. And diet coke is 1 calorie, and tastes same to me. Similar with the milk too, i try to ask them to buy semi skimmed as it's less calories and tastes same. So, eggs, tuna, milk, low fat cheese, meats (ham).

Il try to do better, hopefully not doing too bad :roll:
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No Martin you aren't doing too bad at all. You've worked hard and stuck with it.... I just think with all that hard work you've been putting in you'd see better results if you watched the diet a little closer.

Yes,tuna and other fish is great. Ham is good... turkey, chicken, and beef is also good if your doing lunch meat, low fat cheese is great, skim milk is good, eggs are great, jerky is good (it can be high in sodium but thats not really a huge deal for you). You really are doing a good job Martin, however as i said I can't promise you major results if you're not properly fueling your body. :)
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Alright, thanks, i will try more harder to get protein with every meal :D
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AWESOME!!! :mrgreen:

Great job Martin!!
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Day 82

Breakfast 2 slices toast with peanut butter 3 boiled eggs and a small cup of milk.

Snacked on Bannana.

However, wrists are hurting me quite badly, im not sure of wether it's the other day from benching, doing dips on chairs, or just aching. So perhaps il do them tomorow and decrease that day's cardio. However, although it's been 82 days ive only seen very minor changes, even though i know it's probably not long enough it's still almost 3 months should see some decent results surely. For example the other day when i looked at body i felt quite pleased, today however i feel and look fatter and look how i did 3 months ago. Im just confused :roll:

Lunch - 2 slices of toast with peanut butter, rest of the cucumber wat was left, and about 5 or 6 slices of roast chicken wafer thin.

Pear

Dinner - few oven baked chips, litreally like 7 or 8. Peas, Small sized chicken burger x2 - 145 calories 7g protein. 1 tiny sausage in batter.
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Ok Martin... I'm sorry if this is totally blunt but if you want to know why you aren't seeing major results its because you really haven't taken and used all of the advice that you've been given.This isn't rocket science, you get out of it what you put into it. If you want to see MAJOR results then you have to put in MAJOR effort.... which means getting enough protein with EVERY SINGLE MEAL, EVERY SINGLE DAY and getting an adequate amount of calories every day and pushing yourself hard through your workouts every single day. I've gone back and looked at your diet for the past 15 days and I don't think there was one day where you got the diet spot on and ate an adequate amount of protein and had a totally clean diet. Below, I've posted bits and pieces of your diet since day 66 so you can go back and see what i'm talking about. If you want major results you are really going to have to take your diet and training to the next level. This is a decision that you and only you can make. Taking your diet to the next level involves writing down everything you eat, counting calories to make sure you're getting enough, and counting proteins, carbs, and fats to make sure you're getting a healthy balance of all. This is a challenge and frankly is kind of a lot of work and does take some getting used to. However, if you truly want to make major changes it is something that you're going to have to do. I know quite a few people who have taken the steps to change transform their bodies. These people didn't tranform their bodies by cheating on their diets, skimping on protein, and making excuses for their shortfalls. They did it by tracking their diets, putting 100% effort into each and every workout, and adjusting their diet and workout program when necessary to continue seeing results. Sooo in answer to your question, yes it has been 82 days and I'm so proud of you for sticking with it this long. However I think you need to decide how badly you want to see those major changes, and if you want them bad enough you will find a way to make it happen. I will be here for you the whole time. I'm not going anywhere (lucky you!) :). I will support you, I willl educate you, I will answer your questions and I will be totally honest with you the entire time. However, there is only so much I can do. I can't force you to get in enough protein, to cut back on the bread ( goodness you do eat alot of bread!), to eat more veggies, or (as Les suggested) to drink enough water. I also can't force you to put 100% into every workout. I will try to encourage you as much as I can however ulimately if you want to see "major results" then you are going to have to make some changes to your diet.


Day 66
Got in, had dinner - beans on toast, and a cake mum bought from bakers- Beans are good and offer some protein, however you could have probably had a bit more protein here and veggies
Day 67
Went to a bbq so had that for lunch and dinner - had a piece of lamb, a burger, piece of meat from kebab stick, few little things. 2 cans of beer, not ate too well today, although some of the meat possibly had a big amount of protein?-The meat would have protein, the 2 cans of beer weren't the best choice
Day 70
slice of extra thick bread (130 calories) and peanut butter.- NO PROTEIN
Got in, lunch 2 slices of thick bread with peanut butter.- NO PROTEIN
Dinner - half of a homemade pizza, jacket potato and spaghetti- NOT ENOUGH PROTEIN, LOTS OF SIMPLE CARBS, LOTS OF UNHEALTHY FAT.
small piece of homemade apple crumble.- SUGAR, UNHEALTHY CARBS, UNHEALTHY FAT
Day 72
Breakfast - 3 wheatabix with milk.-NO PROTEIN
Day 72 (for some reason you have two day 72’s listed?)
Breakfast - 3 wheatabix with milk-NO PROTEIN
Day 73:
Breakfast - 3 wheatabix with milk- NO PROTEIN
Lunch - Had fry up, this will be dinner and il have lunch for dinner, i know fry ups arent the best of things to have but it's not like i have them every day nor every week, still probably has a fair amount of protein in it.- I DON”T KNOW WHAT THIS IS SO CAN”T TELL YOU IF ITS HEALTHY, HOWEVER IF IT WAS FRIED IS PROBABLY WASN”T THE BEST
Dinner - 3 slices of toast with peanut butter and a banana- NO PROTEIN
Day 74:
Was going college so had 3 wheatabix with milk for breakfast..- NO PROTEIN
Lunch going to have peanut butter on toast. - Prohobiotic yougurt (75 calories)-NOT ENOUGH PROTEIN, LOTS OF CARBS
Been getting hungry alot so been eating things like bread.- YOUR PROBABLY GETTING HUNGRY BECAUSE YOU AREN”T EATING ENOUGH PROTEIN. SNACK ON PROTEIN, VEGGIES, FRUIT, AND NUTS INSTEAD OF BREAD
Day 75
Breakfast - 3 wheatabix with milk- NO PROTEIN
Around 12pm had 2 slices of toast with peanut butter.- NO PROTEIN
Dinner - Shepards pie. Small sized cookie after- Shepards Pie probably has protein so probably wasn’t that bad. Keep in mind that it may have been one small cookie, but these treats do add up over time
Day 76:
Breakfast - 3 wheatbix with milk. Went London- NO PROTEIN
Got back around 10:30am, had 2 slices of toast with peanut butter- NO PROTEIN
Dinner - some ravoli and spaghetti on toast, one jafa cake after (46 calories).- THIS PROBABLY HAD SOMEPROTEIN, HOWEVER RAVIOLI AND SPAGHETTI AND CAKE WOULD OFFER QUITE A FEW SIMPLE CARBS. NO VEGGIES HERE EITHER… IN FACT MOST, IF NOT ALL, OF YOUR DAYS ARE TOO LOW IN VEGGIES/FRUIT
DAY 77:
Snack: Slice of fresh bread after with peanut butter- NO PROTEIN
Day 78
lunch - 2 slices of toast with peanut butter…. Had another 2 slices of toast with peanut butter and 5 slices ham- THIS IS A LOT OF BREAD. SHOULD HAVE HAD PROTEIN WITH LUNCH, THEN VEGGIES AND PROTEIN WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR SECOND MEAL INSTEAD OF MORE BREAD
Day 79
Breakfast - wheatabix with milk- NO PROTEIN
Lunch - 2 slices toast with peanut butter - no ham left- NOT PROTEIN.
Another slices later on as i was still hungry- IF YOURE HUNGRY HAVE PROTEIN, VEGGIES, FRUIT, COMPLEX CARB, or HEALTHY FAT
Dinner was a fry up- STILL DON”T KNOW WHAT THIS IS? IF ITS FRIED IS PROBABLY NOT THE BEST
Day 81
Breakfast 3 wheatabix with milk- NO PROTEIN

College got hungry break time, however bought a portion of chips- SHOULD HAVE GRABBED SOME FORM OF FRUIT OR VEGGIE, PROTEIN, AND HEALTHY FAT HERE. CHIPS REALLY DON”T DO MUCH TO FILL YOU UP IF YOURE HUNGRY

Got home, grapes, banana.- NO PROTEIN
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