whey protein help
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whey protein help
i am 5 9 and only 126 pounds, and i am new at getting into shape it saids i can take 2 scoops up to 3 times aday, and each scoop is 25 g of protein so thats about 150 in a day. but so far i only took it twice and stomach feels tight and weird and i feel sick, , by the way i mix it with milk . so am i doing anything wrong ? thanks alot
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Re: whey protein help
First, Whole solid food over liquid protein ...jayson13 wrote:i am 5 9 and only 126 pounds, and i am new at getting into shape it saids i can take 2 scoops up to 3 times aday, and each scoop is 25 g of protein so thats about 150 in a day. but so far i only took it twice and stomach feels tight and weird and i feel sick, , by the way i mix it with milk . so am i doing anything wrong ? thanks alot
Second, it's the milk that makes your stomach sick.
Third, before looking of adding more whey to your diet, you need a look at your diet. Post us a sample here.
I have just started using a new protein drink self. You should only be taking in about 60-70 grams of protein a day for your body weight no need to over do it espically since you are just starting. I am 155 6'0" and take in 75 grams a day. With protein drink I am taking one in the Morning, Lunch and after workout. I use skim milk and I only take between 8-10 oz of milk each time.
If I were to take 2 scoops each time like you are I would be sick to. Cut what you are doing in half and you will feel better switch to skim or 2% and you will see results in a few weeks.
Also I will add that on the side of the instructions when they tell you how much to take that. They tell you to take that much so you use the product more and in effect have to buy more of it. Just stick to what I said you should be good.
Good luck
If I were to take 2 scoops each time like you are I would be sick to. Cut what you are doing in half and you will feel better switch to skim or 2% and you will see results in a few weeks.
Also I will add that on the side of the instructions when they tell you how much to take that. They tell you to take that much so you use the product more and in effect have to buy more of it. Just stick to what I said you should be good.
Good luck
Okay it goes like this.
1. Protein shakes with Milk icnrease Calories.
2. Milk increase the Casein content, potentially slowing absorption.
3. Milk requires a Lactase enzyme, to digest the Galactose in Lactose, which means a greater enzymatic reaction in the Gut.
Mixing with water will make your shakes faster absorbed, and should negate any digestive issues you are experiencing.
1. Protein shakes with Milk icnrease Calories.
2. Milk increase the Casein content, potentially slowing absorption.
3. Milk requires a Lactase enzyme, to digest the Galactose in Lactose, which means a greater enzymatic reaction in the Gut.
Mixing with water will make your shakes faster absorbed, and should negate any digestive issues you are experiencing.
No. For your weight, I think 150 was okay, but you wouldn't need to go higher than that at the present time.
The main issue was some of your Protein coming from Milk, and causing you mild digestive issues combined with your Protein shakes.
I think removing the Milk and replacing it with water, is a good thing, and you will be okay for now doing what you want to do with a bit less than 150g Protein a day, but to reiterate, I don't think 150 was too much, but I wouldn't have said you'd needed to go higher than that, at this stage, if you'd been considering it.
The main issue was some of your Protein coming from Milk, and causing you mild digestive issues combined with your Protein shakes.
I think removing the Milk and replacing it with water, is a good thing, and you will be okay for now doing what you want to do with a bit less than 150g Protein a day, but to reiterate, I don't think 150 was too much, but I wouldn't have said you'd needed to go higher than that, at this stage, if you'd been considering it.
Thought I'd add another question in this thread. I went browsing around in two supplement stores and came across these brands of Whey Protein.
-Weider
-President's Choice
-Lean Fit
-Six Star Muscle Fuel
-PVL
Which of these brands would be the ideal recommended choice according to the experienced here?
-Weider
-President's Choice
-Lean Fit
-Six Star Muscle Fuel
-PVL
Which of these brands would be the ideal recommended choice according to the experienced here?
I'd check out if any of those have Carbs in, as that would be better for you, to get some Carbs like Maltodextrin, or Simple / Complex mixes like Palatinose.
Chances are, if a protein powder costs you about $5 more per tub, compared to another, it's better value if the costlier one gives you 20+ g's of Carbs per scoop, compared to one that's virtually Carb free.
That represents really good value for all those Carbs in the Tub.
If both have none, go for the cheaper. Some may have increased values of things like Glutamine, (Protein synthesiser), and the BCAA's, (Valine, Leucine and Iso-Leucine), in which case the levels of all the Aminos, should be on the labels, (or the websites), so compare the labels, and if you think one powder has much higher levels, like say 20% more content of certain Aminos, and you're paying another $3-$5 per tub for the privilege, that might be good, but if the higher selected Amino amounts look a bit crappy, like 0.1g more, then you're wasting money.
Chances are, if a protein powder costs you about $5 more per tub, compared to another, it's better value if the costlier one gives you 20+ g's of Carbs per scoop, compared to one that's virtually Carb free.
That represents really good value for all those Carbs in the Tub.
If both have none, go for the cheaper. Some may have increased values of things like Glutamine, (Protein synthesiser), and the BCAA's, (Valine, Leucine and Iso-Leucine), in which case the levels of all the Aminos, should be on the labels, (or the websites), so compare the labels, and if you think one powder has much higher levels, like say 20% more content of certain Aminos, and you're paying another $3-$5 per tub for the privilege, that might be good, but if the higher selected Amino amounts look a bit crappy, like 0.1g more, then you're wasting money.
Since this thread is already talking about whey, thought I would use it to find out information.
I've never used a suppliment before except a multivitamin as a kid. Seriously thinking of using them again with the realization that diet alone can never give us everything we need for our bodies especially while training.
Here is issue, fruits and veggies and carbs are not a problem, I've reduced some fats (it was needed lol). I have problems with getting enough protein, (love meat just don't get enough).
I want to add Whey into diet before and after work outs. I am currently getting little to no protein at these two times. What Whey is good, where can you buy it (Ontario, Canada), etc.
[I saw earlier in thread, cheapest for most amount is the one to go for, and that PC brand was the cheapest, where did you get it?]
Recent history in nutshell:
Quit smoking Apr 1 08 [been straight since 18 am now 34], Cut out Coffee Apr 8 08 (now at 2 cups a wk instead of a pot a day-made me want a smoke)
Started back at gym May 1 08 (first work out since 18 and am going 6 times a wk, 3 weight / 3 cardio (high priority is fat loss) [5'8" large build 240 lbs and fat]
Now 234 lbs, 24 % body fat by cliper test by trainer at gym and over 1 1/2" lost around waist.
Shoulders, legs and chest starting to define.
current problem is fatigue and starting to pause in strength where I don't think I should be. Protein intake is maybe 75 to 125g per day depending on what I eat. I realize I need some more protein and figured whey the best option because I feel all these shakes and suppliments are more fad and money makers than really worth it and take second place to a good diet.
Suggestions? Input?
Oh yeah
I'm a nite worker and work outs are after work about 2-3 hours before bed.
breakfeast
Fruit, veggie, meat, cheese
water or fruit juice
1st snack
no-fat cottage cheese and grapes
green iced
tea
2nd snack
polish sausage and pinapple
green iced tea
lunch
2x ham cheese and mustard sandwich
lettuce salid with carrot, cabbage and cucumber and italian dressing
500ml water
snack
pc chocolate chip granola bar
500ml water
workout
final meal
cherios with milk
or
cheese 2 egg omelette with toast with honey and cinamin
water
I've never used a suppliment before except a multivitamin as a kid. Seriously thinking of using them again with the realization that diet alone can never give us everything we need for our bodies especially while training.
Here is issue, fruits and veggies and carbs are not a problem, I've reduced some fats (it was needed lol). I have problems with getting enough protein, (love meat just don't get enough).
I want to add Whey into diet before and after work outs. I am currently getting little to no protein at these two times. What Whey is good, where can you buy it (Ontario, Canada), etc.
[I saw earlier in thread, cheapest for most amount is the one to go for, and that PC brand was the cheapest, where did you get it?]
Recent history in nutshell:
Quit smoking Apr 1 08 [been straight since 18 am now 34], Cut out Coffee Apr 8 08 (now at 2 cups a wk instead of a pot a day-made me want a smoke)
Started back at gym May 1 08 (first work out since 18 and am going 6 times a wk, 3 weight / 3 cardio (high priority is fat loss) [5'8" large build 240 lbs and fat]
Now 234 lbs, 24 % body fat by cliper test by trainer at gym and over 1 1/2" lost around waist.
Shoulders, legs and chest starting to define.
current problem is fatigue and starting to pause in strength where I don't think I should be. Protein intake is maybe 75 to 125g per day depending on what I eat. I realize I need some more protein and figured whey the best option because I feel all these shakes and suppliments are more fad and money makers than really worth it and take second place to a good diet.
Suggestions? Input?
Oh yeah
I'm a nite worker and work outs are after work about 2-3 hours before bed.
breakfeast
Fruit, veggie, meat, cheese
water or fruit juice
1st snack
no-fat cottage cheese and grapes
green iced
tea
2nd snack
polish sausage and pinapple
green iced tea
lunch
2x ham cheese and mustard sandwich
lettuce salid with carrot, cabbage and cucumber and italian dressing
500ml water
snack
pc chocolate chip granola bar
500ml water
workout
final meal
cherios with milk
or
cheese 2 egg omelette with toast with honey and cinamin
water
- i don't class protein powder as a suopplement...it essential for anyone who trains so it should be a staple...fish oil is the same for mine but everyone should have it, training or not
- whey is best had around training time...i have straight after and that's the only time but you could make up a 1 and a 1/2 sized shake and have half pre/post...i can eat a solid meal and train straight after so i don't have one pre but if you don't digest great it may cause problems so liquid may be a better option
- any whey is good, there's not much difference only pricing...i simply go to the same shop and the biggest tub for the cheapest price and i've never bought the same one twice...they simply buy in bulk, price them cheap and out they go...i go a low carb one so i can eat carbs (love cereal) which i think is better than drinking carbs
- keep min mind i'm in australia so the brands won;t be the same and don't even remember any of them anyway
- if fatigue is a problem you need to either increase cal's or cut doen on cardio...your aiming for fat loss so i'd cut the cardio
- oh no protein is way low you need at least 240g/day...there's your problem...protein is recovery food...wts damage your muscles and they aren't built back up before your next workout you're in strife and it only gets worse from there...think trying to save and being addicted to shopping, your "debt" only gets worse
- cut out all juices
- meat for meal 2, add veg and/or salad
- think meals not snacks for all feedings
- add veg/salad for meal 3
- bars are shit, solid protein here with veg/salad
- whey proetin straight after last set with cheerios as soon as you can after that...i have rice bubbles strsight after shake
- within 60mins you need a solid protein, veg/salad meal then off to beddy byes
- whey is best had around training time...i have straight after and that's the only time but you could make up a 1 and a 1/2 sized shake and have half pre/post...i can eat a solid meal and train straight after so i don't have one pre but if you don't digest great it may cause problems so liquid may be a better option
- any whey is good, there's not much difference only pricing...i simply go to the same shop and the biggest tub for the cheapest price and i've never bought the same one twice...they simply buy in bulk, price them cheap and out they go...i go a low carb one so i can eat carbs (love cereal) which i think is better than drinking carbs
- keep min mind i'm in australia so the brands won;t be the same and don't even remember any of them anyway
- if fatigue is a problem you need to either increase cal's or cut doen on cardio...your aiming for fat loss so i'd cut the cardio
- oh no protein is way low you need at least 240g/day...there's your problem...protein is recovery food...wts damage your muscles and they aren't built back up before your next workout you're in strife and it only gets worse from there...think trying to save and being addicted to shopping, your "debt" only gets worse
- cut out all juices
- meat for meal 2, add veg and/or salad
- think meals not snacks for all feedings
- add veg/salad for meal 3
- bars are shit, solid protein here with veg/salad
- whey proetin straight after last set with cheerios as soon as you can after that...i have rice bubbles strsight after shake
- within 60mins you need a solid protein, veg/salad meal then off to beddy byes
Thank you,
I knew protein was low and thus a contributer to muscle fatigue, its just finding whey at a decent price without all the other addatives. Tried a Hemp protein "suppliment" trial pack today. Almost threw-up, it was awful, I managed 1/2 then dumped it.
What's wrong with a glass of fruit juice with the first meal? For that matter what's wrong with fruit juices? I have one a day usually with first meal.
The iced green tea I make, 1/4 cup of sugar per 2 litres tea (2 green tea bags and one orange peeko bag) and some lemon juice to flavour, then chill. It's very refreshing.
I knew protein was low and thus a contributer to muscle fatigue, its just finding whey at a decent price without all the other addatives. Tried a Hemp protein "suppliment" trial pack today. Almost threw-up, it was awful, I managed 1/2 then dumped it.
What's wrong with a glass of fruit juice with the first meal? For that matter what's wrong with fruit juices? I have one a day usually with first meal.
The iced green tea I make, 1/4 cup of sugar per 2 litres tea (2 green tea bags and one orange peeko bag) and some lemon juice to flavour, then chill. It's very refreshing.