breathing rate is not the same as intensity champ...you'd puffed if you ran 75% for 400m but is that a higher intensity than running at 85% for any distance you can think of? no it isn't...it's further but not harder
explain to me why logic is not rational besides syaing '...it's all about shocking the body...'
shockig the body into doing what? in that case never do the same thing twice if you want to "shock" the body
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Dude, you don't get it. It's this simple: You sprint for, say, 60 yards(100%), then, instead of stoppng, you go into a moderate paced jog(40/50/60%). This allows you to rest, but, at the same time, keeps the body working. This allows you to put more stress on your body, when you go for your next sprint(100%)- which means higher intensity. It's much harder on the body. "100%" isn't always max speed, rather the max you can put out.swanso5 wrote:breathing rate is not the same as intensity champ...you'd puffed if you ran 75% for 400m but is that a higher intensity than running at 85% for any distance you can think of? no it isn't...it's further but not harder
explain to me why logic is not rational besides syaing '...it's all about shocking the body...'
shockig the body into doing what? in that case never do the same thing twice if you want to "shock" the body
I don't know how else to explain, because I'm not a physiologist. You can't compare it to doing weight reps- I don't know why, but I'm positive they're different and cannot be compared.
Sprinting(regular) has never really put me completely out of breath. Intervals have. Which means more shock, because you're aiming to work the cardiovascular system and lungs, etc.
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If you compare Sprints with a rest in the middle, and Sprints with a jog in the middle, if you sprint for say 200m, you could in relation, sprint 60, jog 80, Sprint 60 again, as an example, but the second one doesn't give you the same calorie burn, for the same distance.JTRz13 wrote: Dude, you don't get it. It's this simple: You sprint for, say, 60 yards(100%), then, instead of stoppng, you go into a moderate paced jog(40/50/60%). This allows you to rest, but, at the same time, keeps the body working. This allows you to put more stress on your body, when you go for your next sprint(100%)- which means higher intensity. It's much harder on the body. "100%" isn't always max speed, rather the max you can put out.
So in order to burn the same calories, you need to go for longer on the interval, which increases usage of the Knees, more wear and tear, and as you went further, possibly sacrificed more Muscle Glycogen, meaning you'd need more calories PWO to recover.
Being out of breath has nothing to do with intensity. If you Sprint then Jog, you will reduce BPM, by not remaining at a certain level of activity, but once you sprint again the BPM increases, and breath loss will too, but ultimately you were still out breath at some point, same as doing one Sprint then stopping. Show me one Sprinter who does 100M in sub 10 secs who looks 100% fresh, and I'll show you a Dark Blue Sunset, or maybe a flying Pig.
Also if you Sprint then stop, you allow Oxygen to come back into muscles better, with Interval you don't, but whatever Oxygen makes it back into the muscles, may increase Oxygen retention, if expendature is reduced, as less of what goes in, comes back out, but stopping means little expendature of intake, giving greater Oxygen retention than jogging after Sprints.
Also you would still shock the system, as the body would probably not be able to adapt to a Sprint, stop, Sprint stop strategy.
Technically Sprinting then stopping, then Sprinting again is still interval training, you're just including what could be called a level 0 between Sprints, different intensity level to a Sprint, Jog system, but probably quite hard to adapt physically to it.
The body is ony going to adapt to Cardio, if you do things like Level 2 or 3 Treadmill for 30 minutes, 3 times a week, because you don't change the incline, or settings, you use the same settings.
Plus with a Sprint Jog system, "max put out" as you say, will just slowly decrease, the longer you exert without breaks, but Sprints with Breaks means "max put out", (depending on the break duration), can be as much as before, until such time as things like lack of Glycogen prevent this.
Plus with a Sprint Jog system, you're confusing the body anyway, by using FTM fibres, then using STM fibres, so you're possibly not optimising your use or conditioning of one or the other.
Hence why Sprinters possibly couldn't run further than 2-3 miles approx, and Marathon runners couldn't run faster than about 15mph approx, but Sprinters can run around 22-25 mph, possibly more, as both athletic types, train in ways that optimise one or the other Fibre type.
If a potential Marathon runner added Sprints in, their ability to improve would be impeeded, by using up Glycogen and muscle Oxygen faster, and preventing continuous STM fibre use, so that wouldn't benefit them.
Sprinters would suffer the same doing intervals, no continous FTM fibre use, no maximised adaptation of the Fibres, and potential loss of some mind muscle connection, possible reduced electrical impulse distribution to the FTM Fibres, and therefore loss of speed.
Interval training can work for Fat loss, but you have to go further, which makes less point compared to regular Sprints, and you do things like work the Knees and Joints more to get the same result.
Breath means nothing. Someone Sprinting 200m in an Olympics, is out of breath, same as a 350lb guy, walking 1,000 yards to bring a Newspaper home, would be out of Breath if he usually drove for it.
Who's going to burn more calories? Tyson Gay, or Mr Blobby? Who's going to work more intensely, Tyson Gay, or Mr Blobby?
Plus as stated before, stress is not necessarily intensity. If a Sprinter runs hard up a slight hill for 50M, and a friend uses a speed gun to measure his max speed, then next day he runs 50M on a track at the same speed, he's still doing the same speed and distance, but on the hill, he gets greater impact, as the Incline causes resistance.
So the body must being doing something to achieve that max hill speed, which might be 16mph approx, that on a track where he could max at 22mph, he doesn't have to do, so he's stressing himself a lot more on the Hill, but on the track, he might be able to burn the same calories, running at his faster max, for the same distance, but it's not as intense as the Hill, as there's no real resistance on the track, apart from any wind, (assuming he's running into it), as opposed to wind and a lot of solid ground like the Hill.
Wow, you really know a lot. I guess I don't know much at all.Boss Man wrote:If you compare Sprints with a rest in the middle, and Sprints with a jog in the middle, if you sprint for say 200m, you could in relation, sprint 60, jog 80, Sprint 60 again, as an example, but the second one doesn't give you the same calorie burn, for the same distance.JTRz13 wrote: Dude, you don't get it. It's this simple: You sprint for, say, 60 yards(100%), then, instead of stoppng, you go into a moderate paced jog(40/50/60%). This allows you to rest, but, at the same time, keeps the body working. This allows you to put more stress on your body, when you go for your next sprint(100%)- which means higher intensity. It's much harder on the body. "100%" isn't always max speed, rather the max you can put out.
So in order to burn the same calories, you need to go for longer on the interval, which increases usage of the Knees, more wear and tear, and as you went further, possibly sacrificed more Muscle Glycogen, meaning you'd need more calories PWO to recover.
Being out of breath has nothing to do with intensity. If you Sprint then Jog, you will reduce BPM, by not remaining at a certain level of activity, but once you sprint again the BPM increases, and breath loss will too, but ultimately you were still out breath at some point, same as doing one Sprint then stopping. Show me one Sprinter who does 100M in sub 10 secs who looks 100% fresh, and I'll show you a Dark Blue Sunset, or maybe a flying Pig.
Also if you Sprint then stop, you allow Oxygen to come back into muscles better, with Interval you don't, but whatever Oxygen makes it back into the muscles, may increase Oxygen retention, if expendature is reduced, as less of what goes in, comes back out, but stopping means little expendature of intake, giving greater Oxygen retention than jogging after Sprints.
Also you would still shock the system, as the body would probably not be able to adapt to a Sprint, stop, Sprint stop strategy.
Technically Sprinting then stopping, then Sprinting again is still interval training, you're just including what could be called a level 0 between Sprints, different intensity level to a Sprint, Jog system, but probably quite hard to adapt physically to it.
The body is ony going to adapt to Cardio, if you do things like Level 2 or 3 Treadmill for 30 minutes, 3 times a week, because you don't change the incline, or settings, you use the same settings.
Plus with a Sprint Jog system, "max put out" as you say, will just slowly decrease, the longer you exert without breaks, but Sprints with Breaks means "max put out", (depending on the break duration), can be as much as before, until such time as things like lack of Glycogen prevent this.
Plus with a Sprint Jog system, you're confusing the body anyway, by using FTM fibres, then using STM fibres, so you're possibly not optimising your use or conditioning of one or the other.
Hence why Sprinters possibly couldn't run further than 2-3 miles approx, and Marathon runners couldn't run faster than about 15mph approx, but Sprinters can run around 22-25 mph, possibly more, as both athletic types, train in ways that optimise one or the other Fibre type.
If a potential Marathon runner added Sprints in, their ability to improve would be impeeded, by using up Glycogen and muscle Oxygen faster, and preventing continuous STM fibre use, so that wouldn't benefit them.
Sprinters would suffer the same doing intervals, no continous FTM fibre use, no maximised adaptation of the Fibres, and potential loss of some mind muscle connection, possible reduced electrical impulse distribution to the FTM Fibres, and therefore loss of speed.
Interval training can work for Fat loss, but you have to go further, which makes less point compared to regular Sprints, and you do things like work the Knees and Joints more to get the same result.
Breath means nothing. Someone Sprinting 200m in an Olympics, is out of breath, same as a 350lb guy, walking 1,000 yards to bring a Newspaper home, would be out of Breath if he usually drove for it.
Who's going to burn more calories? Tyson Gay, or Mr Blobby? Who's going to work more intensely, Tyson Gay, or Mr Blobby?
Plus as stated before, stress is not necessarily intensity. If a Sprinter runs hard up a slight hill for 50M, and a friend uses a speed gun to measure his max speed, then next day he runs 50M on a track at the same speed, he's still doing the same speed and distance, but on the hill, he gets greater impact, as the Incline causes resistance.
So the body must being doing something to achieve that max hill speed, which might be 16mph approx, that on a track where he could max at 22mph, he doesn't have to do, so he's stressing himself a lot more on the Hill, but on the track, he might be able to burn the same calories, running at his faster max, for the same distance, but it's not as intense as the Hill, as there's no real resistance on the track, apart from any wind, (assuming he's running into it), as opposed to wind and a lot of solid ground like the Hill.
Alright, then. I got a question- How come I've gotten better results(burned more overall fat) when I've done "intervals" than when I've done 'sprint-stop-sprint sprints'?