Muscle Atrophy Fever & "Push For Failure" Ques

Discuss your weight training questions, concerns and tips!

Moderators: Boss Man, cassiegose

Post Reply
AdamL
STARTING OUT
Posts: 6
Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:16 am

Muscle Atrophy Fever & "Push For Failure" Ques

Post by AdamL »

Last week the in the gym I wanted to reach limits with the weights. I read somewhere that once you can do 12 reps you should move up a weight. So I did this, but what I had been doing before was finding a weight that was relatively hard and doing a few sets on it. Now I was finding limits because I am starting the push for failure thing where you go until you cant get the last rep up.

So I did this and i reached respective limits for all parts. But for the "Leg Press" machine, naturally your legs are stronger, and mine are pretty strong, so i went pretty damn far. Now I didnt know where limit was so I had to go through them until I couldnt do 12. This extreme pressure on knees meant that after I got off, knees where shakey and sore.

The next morning I knew I was gonna be sore as usual, triceps and hips being the main contenders for soreness. Just when I was walking arround the house though, I started sneezing violently, eyes were watering and nose was running. This went all the way through to when I got into work. Sneezing almost 5-10 times a minute.

Is this muscle atrophy fever? Keep in mind I do have hayfever, asthma and a dust allergy. BUT also keep in mind that all of these have not affected me for most of the summer until now (if thats the case).

Also, on right knee, just behind it It felt sore to walk on. If I jumped or ran, It would hurt alot. Is this a direct result of "Leg Press" training?
User avatar
Boss Man
SITE ADMIN
Posts: 15458
Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:27 pm

Post by Boss Man »

The Soreness behind the Knee, could be a sign that something went a bit "skew whiff", on your Leg Press training, so you should can those immediately until you can sort yourself out.

You would be adivised to switch to things like Squatting and lunging variations, to prevent or reduce any atrophy you get, as you probably won't be able to do certain Squat / Lunge movements maxed out, either with DB's or Bars.

It would be advisable to start such exercises with body weight, and all being well, after a set move up to modest weight levels, and slowly build up the weight set by set, so you can assess where your pain threshold currently is. Even if it takes a couple of sessions to find it, once you do, know what weight triggers very slight pain, and go slightly lower, to a safe upper limit.

I would when you find this threshold, and train just below it, put the weights up a little more next session, to see if it's any better, if so train a bit heavier then, if not, stick to your reduced weight levels on Squat and / or Lunge exercises.

You have to take things softly softly for now, or you could aggrevate any pain / injury and make it worse.

As for allergies, it's probably just a coincidence. I have never heard of any weight training being linked to dust / hayfever allergies, unless perhaps the people running your gym, started tarting it up with new decor which included plants.
AdamL
STARTING OUT
Posts: 6
Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:16 am

Post by AdamL »

Thanks for the advice, Im going to try the squats and lunges. Where can I read up more on them? And how do you apply the DB or Bars to yourself and adding weight etc.? When I do a squat (with no weights) it hurts knees.

What I said before about it being the right knee, later turned out to be both. And that was 3 or so days ago. And it still hurts. So im kinda relying on protein shake before bed to patch me up. I have had problems in the past which consisted of a crunching/clicking noise when I bent knees (which is still there) but GP told me it was normal and wasn't cartillage degeneration or anything.

I should have included it above but I'm 15 in november, 168lbs and 5"10.
User avatar
Boss Man
SITE ADMIN
Posts: 15458
Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:27 pm

Post by Boss Man »

Right, these are things you can do.

1. look into things like Glucosamine, Chondritin, MSM or Shark Cartilage.

They work for the joints, especially with problems. Just be aware the Glucosamine definitely contains Chitin, a substance found in Shellfish. The others might possibly do as well. If you have an allergy to Chitin, then you can't take anything with it in.

If you don't and most people probably don't, you should be fine to take one of those.

If it was a Cartilage problem, you might have been advised to take something like Cartazyne, but as it seemingly isn't, you wouldn't be doing that.

If you have problems Squatting, try using a 10-2 position, which means taking the feet out at an angle, not pointing straight. You do however keep a regular stance, you don't have a wider stance, even though the feet are turned outwards.

As for the Squat technique, with DB's you just have the DB's by your sides, and you need to make sure on the downward motion, your Back remains fairly straight, and you are sticking your Backside out quite a bit, as you should end up, when your Knees are 90 degrees, without your Knees over the front of your Feet.

If your Knees are hiding your Feet, when you're all the way down to 90 degrees, that means your technique is wrong, and you're using too much Patella, (Knee), joint and associated connective tissues.

Try that technique using 10-2 Foot position, and see if that relieves any pain off the Knees.
swanso5
VETERAN
Posts: 10658
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:25 pm
Location: melbourne, australia

Post by swanso5 »

you probably locked the knee right out too many times on the leg press hyper extending it...never lockout on leg press
Post Reply